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Yeah, another gurrrrrl. I need my drama. Veralynn's downfall was good already.
Lets see what this brings.
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On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career.
Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support.
Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career".
I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this wonderful game.
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On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game.
I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty?
If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her.
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Sporrer vs Scarlet would be a supermatch
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On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her.
Hypocritical in what way? If a male StarCraft 2 player goes the same avenue as she has then I would label him an attention whore in a heartbeat, his actions would clearly reflect his intentions.
Could you please name some of these male sc2 personalities who have set up a stream with no play experience and/or asked Day[9] or another popular figure in SC2 to coach them live over a social networking site for all to see?
Perhaps your definition of hypocritical differs from mine, and what the word actually means. The reason I point out Lindsey Spore in this case is quite simply....this thread is about Lindsey Spore.
Beyond this thread I intend to ignore her, I will not watch a stream of hers ect... What I'm doing in this thread is advising my fellow gamers to do the same. Do not feed attention whores, regardless of gender. Doing so only perpetuates the image of gamers as immature boys who will do anything for girls, that's not who we are.
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On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her.
like who? every personality in the game has paid their dues at some point (TB and Husky etc have all created content off their own backs and gone through lean times to get to where they are), no male person has got by just on looks, quit making shit up
as for ignoring her, sometimes bullshit needs calling out
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On September 29 2012 23:09 Phant. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her. Hypocritical in what way? If a male StarCraft 2 player goes the same avenue as she has then I would label him an attention whore in a heartbeat, his actions would clearly reflect his intentions. Could you please name some of these male sc2 personalities who have set up a stream with no play experience and/or asked Day[9] or another popular figure in SC2 to coach them live over a social networking site for all to see? Perhaps your definition of hypocritical differs from mine, and what the word actually means. The reason I point out Lindsey Spore in this case is quite simply....this thread is about Lindsey Spore. Beyond this thread I intend to ignore her, I will not watch a stream of hers ect... What I'm doing in this thread is advising my fellow gamers to do the same. Do not feed attention whores, regardless of gender. Doing so only perpetuates the image of gamers as immature boys who will do anything for girls, that's not who we are.
I think this situation seems pretty similar to when Gordon Hayward started playing starcraft and streaming
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On September 29 2012 23:18 Mythra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 23:09 Phant. wrote:On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her. Hypocritical in what way? If a male StarCraft 2 player goes the same avenue as she has then I would label him an attention whore in a heartbeat, his actions would clearly reflect his intentions. Could you please name some of these male sc2 personalities who have set up a stream with no play experience and/or asked Day[9] or another popular figure in SC2 to coach them live over a social networking site for all to see? Perhaps your definition of hypocritical differs from mine, and what the word actually means. The reason I point out Lindsey Spore in this case is quite simply....this thread is about Lindsey Spore. Beyond this thread I intend to ignore her, I will not watch a stream of hers ect... What I'm doing in this thread is advising my fellow gamers to do the same. Do not feed attention whores, regardless of gender. Doing so only perpetuates the image of gamers as immature boys who will do anything for girls, that's not who we are. I think this situation seems pretty similar to when Gordon Hayward started playing starcraft and streaming
I strongly disagree with that comment, Gordon Hayward is a lifelong gamer and competitive person. Despite being a pro basketball player he was also a Diamond League player in SC2. Him and someone like Lindsey Spore share virtually nothing in common.
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On September 29 2012 23:12 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her. like who? every personality in the game has paid their dues at some point (TB and Husky etc have all created content off their own backs and gone through lean times to get to where they are), no male person has got by just on looks, quit making shit up as for ignoring her, sometimes bullshit needs calling out
I'm uncertain how paying one's dues changes the fact that there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game, as you've highlighted.
You point out TB, so I'll talk about TB. I think he's great. I've cooperated with him on one of his many gamer-centric charity events. He's still first and foremost a gaming personality in general. He's not going to go pro anytime soon. Yet we don't (well, most of us don't) unfairly question TB's motives for involving himself in SC2 when he's no MKP. When he first picked SC2 up to add to his game coverage rotation (doesn't include Minecraft, never Minecraft) he wasn't called an attention whore.
If we did go around treating all newcomers like it seems some would like to treat Sporrer, we probably would not have Husky or TB. I would count those as losses.
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Can people be honest and just write her off because she's using her vaginal powers to suck on eSprots for fame ?
More importantly, will Day[9] be honest ?
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 29 2012 23:18 Mythra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 23:09 Phant. wrote:On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her. Hypocritical in what way? If a male StarCraft 2 player goes the same avenue as she has then I would label him an attention whore in a heartbeat, his actions would clearly reflect his intentions. Could you please name some of these male sc2 personalities who have set up a stream with no play experience and/or asked Day[9] or another popular figure in SC2 to coach them live over a social networking site for all to see? Perhaps your definition of hypocritical differs from mine, and what the word actually means. The reason I point out Lindsey Spore in this case is quite simply....this thread is about Lindsey Spore. Beyond this thread I intend to ignore her, I will not watch a stream of hers ect... What I'm doing in this thread is advising my fellow gamers to do the same. Do not feed attention whores, regardless of gender. Doing so only perpetuates the image of gamers as immature boys who will do anything for girls, that's not who we are. I think this situation seems pretty similar to when Gordon Hayward started playing starcraft and streaming
Except Gordon Hayward was actually Diamond or Plat I forget. And he sure as hell didn't do it for the publicity.
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On September 29 2012 23:37 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 23:12 mememolly wrote:On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her. like who? every personality in the game has paid their dues at some point (TB and Husky etc have all created content off their own backs and gone through lean times to get to where they are), no male person has got by just on looks, quit making shit up as for ignoring her, sometimes bullshit needs calling out I'm uncertain how paying one's dues changes the fact that there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game, as you've highlighted. You point out TB, so I'll talk about TB. I think he's great. I've cooperated with him on one of his many gamer-centric charity events. He's still first and foremost a gaming personality in general. He's not going to go pro anytime soon. Yet we don't (well, most of us don't) unfairly question TB's motives for involving himself in SC2 when he's no MKP. When he first picked SC2 up to add to his game coverage rotation (doesn't include Minecraft, never Minecraft) he wasn't called an attention whore. If we did go around treating all newcomers like it seems some would like to treat Sporrer, we probably would not have Husky or TB. I would count those as losses.
Husky and TB both put in work to be where they are, they created content and people liked it, lindsey sporrer hasn't put in any work, she did some interviews for nasl and nothing more, you can't compare TB and Husky to Sporrer that's just dumb.
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On September 29 2012 23:04 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
Sporrer vs Scarlet would be a supermatch
What? How? Scarlett would beat her blindfolded. With her toes. With only three starting drones and giving Lindsey a five minute head start.
Now on the other hand, I have no problem with Lindsey learning the game. I think it's fantastic that she wants to play for real, and maybe even get good at it. However, I think she should keep her head down and train for a while before she tries to steal some limelight, to show she's serious about StarCraft, rather than just wanting to make money off a low-level stream and anyone willing to help her steal viewers away from more accomplished players. Although, of course, if people are more interested in such a superficial idea rather than hard work, then I can't blame her for doing that. I just hope Lindsey is focusing on the right ideas and not just trying to get something for nothing.
If she's serious about StarCraft, then I wish her the best of luck 
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There's professional commentators and interviewers in other sports that jumps between sports, not because those sports are their passion but because they are good at it and people like to hire them for that reason. I haven't seen enough of Sporrer to know if she's any good at what she does, but to dismiss her just because she don't have a deep connection with the sc2 scene is pretty stupid.
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On September 30 2012 00:39 nihlon wrote:
There's professional commentators and interviewers in other sports that jumps between sports, not because those sports are their passion but because they are good at it and people like to hire them for that reason. I haven't seen enough of Sporrer to know if she's any good at what she does, but to dismiss her just because she don't have a deep connection with the sc2 scene is pretty stupid.
you should go watch her interviews @ the first NASL. Then you would understand.
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Welcome back and good luck with improving.
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did I say 'god bless' already?
god bless
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On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her.
TB, Incontrol, Destiny, even Day9 get flak for having immense 'personalities' in the gaming scene without tangible results of the same level.
It has nothing to do with the fact she's a girl. If it was a top player like Scarlett nobody would mind.
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On September 30 2012 00:52 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 23:01 urashimakt wrote:On September 29 2012 22:50 Phant. wrote:On September 13 2012 07:47 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Weirdly this feels bad to me. I defend ladies who are players (even Diamond league) then go cast. But some interviewer chick trying to promote streaming dollars for herself from Bronze league play?
There is only one reason Lindsey went for Day9 she wanted a share of his huge viewership.
Sadly, if she even gets gold league she would probably get 3000+ viewers with a cute dress on.
This crosses the line between striving to make gaming a career and exploiting gaming to make celebrity a career. Basically what was said above, exploiting the starcraft community for her fame is not something I or any sensible gamer should support. Doing things like setting up a stream when she has never/barely played and asking Day[9] (on twitter so everyone can see) to teach her are clear signs that she has little interest in truly learning the game but is rather after money, attention & fame to further her modeling/acting "career". I will not support a attention whore who's actions show that she cares about her fame/popularity instead of actually learning this great game. I find this stance a little hypocritical when there are a handful of male StarCraft 2 personalities already out there who are self-admittedly not that great at the game. I'm not talking about people like JP (masters league player) or Day[9] (former pro), either. So do we single her out as an "attention whore" because she's a woman or because she's pretty? If you still feel she's worth ignoring, the simple alternative to calling attention to her and applying the label "attention whore" is to just simply ignore her. TB, Incontrol, Destiny, even Day9 get flak for having immense 'personalities' in the gaming scene without tangible results of the same level. It has nothing to do with the fact she's a girl. If it was a top player like Scarlett nobody would mind.
Are you really comparing any of these people to a person who hosted one event of sc2, didn't know a crap about the game, and now "posts about her interest to start playing the game", after she failed on her actress career ? Yeh, she is of course a legit gamer.
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