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On September 09 2012 01:48 Oshuy wrote:960 billion might be a troll. According to world's GDP projections, that would mean Stephano would drain the next 10 years of growth just on salary alone (and probably another 10 years on prizes). 960 million seems more like it. Anyway. Still lacks a confirmation of some kind, but pre-congratulations to both.
I was trolling you like iNcontroL was trolling us, as usual. This 960 000 $ a year is a joke. :p
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On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real.
Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip.
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On September 09 2012 02:09 Hubble wrote:And if so? Even 6k or 5k would be a really nice chunk of money. Hell, even 4k.
Yep, I agree ... playing sc2 for 4k a month ... i would jump at that chance.
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On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real.
Stephano is a young kid. There's a good chance he talked about it with his friends and stuff like many young people that age.
^ Yeah what postman said...lol. Go Stephanova!
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On September 09 2012 02:04 latan wrote:
8k/month pretty much makes you rich. seriously... where do all the millionaires in this forum come from? what kind of expenses do you have that makes you feel like 8k can't cover them?
Well it's not exactly THAT hard to come by. My parents are both doctors, my dad's an anesthesiologist who makes ~300 000 a year, or close to that (before taxes I'd assume), and mom's a GP who makes around 100 000 a year. Some of their friends are lawyers, some doctors, pilots, etc. Most of those jobs that you really want growing up pay quite well.
I'm not saying that 8k a month isn't just totally fantastic for a 19 year old kid, but it's not exactly "best player in the western world" kind of money either.
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Just make sure to keep Stephano out of the EG lair. He performs well w/o being stifled by a frat house.
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Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary.
See below for the negotiations happening live...
http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s
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On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip.
It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from.
On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s
With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754
Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days.
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On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you.
There are people who have way better deals than $2.50 per 1000 ads, I can assure you that...
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On September 09 2012 02:47 zodde wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. There are people who have way better deals than $2.50 per 1000 ads, I can assure you that...
If he could earn $5000 USD in 50 hours streaming time with that average viewer count, he would need to earn $10.00 per 1,000 ad views. That's neglecting the fact that he streams for like 35 hours a month, which would raise that number much higher. He'd literally need to run commercials for hours to accomplish that goal.
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On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days.
Well, don't forget that Stephano just spam commercials at the end of his stream sessions, so like 2 commercials per minute, with between 8k and 12-13k watching when he is in korea.
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On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days.
2GD did not question his figures and he works for Twitch.
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Tickle me not surprised. Good luck in future tournaments.
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On September 09 2012 02:53 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days. 2GD did not question his figures and he works for Twitch.
Well why would he deny that twitch pays (overly) well. :D
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Doesn't he have issue with Thorzain? He was pretty BM to him during a beta match yesterday. Doesn't seem to be the best start to a relation between teammates.
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On September 09 2012 01:18 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 01:04 turamn wrote:On September 08 2012 08:51 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Wow thats alot of money. Not in the real world, sorry. Maybe for a pro-gamer. rofl, you're wrong, sorry. The average American earns like 60k a year, so 100k plus prize money etc is a big deal for a 20 year old.
Median income for an American individual is actually lower than 30k from what I've read. I believe that it goes up to about 40k if you take the average, but everyone uses the median for assessing it because the top 1% who earn 750k really skew the average.
So yes, at the end I also agree that 100k is an awesome figure by itself. Add the prize money plus streaming revenue (assuming he will stream regularly enough), he'll probably be in top 3% of American household income (200k+) just by himself. Household, not individual. Also consider that he'll have housing expenses covered while he stays in the US and he has no wife and kids to support.
"Not in the real world" -> You must be from a pretty loaded family. Good for you. 
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On September 09 2012 02:53 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days. 2GD did not question his figures and he works for Twitch.
Does 2GD handle the money shipments?
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On September 09 2012 02:59 killy666 wrote:
Doesn't he have issue with Thorzain? He was pretty BM to him during a beta match yesterday. Doesn't seem to be the best start to a relation between teammates.
Thorzain? Haha. Thorzain is one of Stephano's strongest friends in SC2. The others are Bling and Mana. Thorzain has also been a practice partner of Stephano for a long time. Thorzain being at EG probably would have helped them recruit Stephano quite a bit.
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On September 09 2012 03:03 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:53 revel8 wrote:On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days. 2GD did not question his figures and he works for Twitch. Does 2GD handle the money shipments?
Do you?
Maybe Stephano exaggerated his figures but he has got to be one of the highest earning streamers in the SC2 scene. I don't pretend to know his financial situation. I am just reporting what he publicly said.
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On September 09 2012 03:06 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 03:03 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:53 revel8 wrote:On September 09 2012 02:38 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:35 Postman wrote:On September 09 2012 02:10 Chargelot wrote:On September 09 2012 02:05 TzTz wrote:
I love how it says "Stephano signs with Evil..." in the preview on the side :D They're not named the Overly-Nice Geniuses for a reason. But hey, free money for everyone. I hope the salary is true, Stephano is such a good player, and he deserves it. But I will express the same opinion here that I did in the ESFI Skype room: Hiding the source is silly. EG knows everyone who has knowledge of the $8,000 figure. Likely only EG management, Stephano, and lawyers who wrote up the contract. - If EG management leaked the info, they'd just release it as public info. There's no real benefit to pretending it's a secret.
- If the lawyers leaked the info, they'd be in a whole world of trouble effecting all of their relationships with current and future clients.
How many parties does that leave? I bet if the source was revealed, it wouldn't be 2 steps away from Stephano himself. And EG probably figured that out in under 5 minutes. Hiding the source doesn't actually prevent anyone from being punished, it just means the article doesn't look as real. Millenium management knows the amount too. Close friends/training partners/girlfriends get told these figures too sometimes (even if they aren't supposed to be told). There's probably something like two dozen (or more) people who know how much he's getting and it's not unlikely one of them let it slip. It works as sort of a tree though. The roots are small in number. If I tell you, then you tell 3 people, then they tell 3 people, and one of those 9 people tell ESFI, it doesn't matter if any one of them told ESFI, I am the leak. The number of initial holders of that information is so small that it wouldn't take them very long to figure out who the original leak was from. On September 09 2012 02:37 revel8 wrote:Stephano said in an interview at DreamHack (the one with 2GD and SirScoots present) that he made 5K from streaming every two or three days. I assume he was talking about dollars. I don't know about streaming revenues but Stephano is by far the most popular streamer on TL whenever he streams. Also he won > $86,000 in prize money in 2012 so far. So that has to go on top of his rumoured $8,000 monthly salary. See below for the negotiations happening live... http://sv.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/321764502?t=27m43s With a fill rate of ~20%, and an average viewer count of 8300, with $2.50 paid per 1000 ad views, and 6 commercials per hour, Stephano would need to stream for 200 hours to earn $5,000 USD. That's 8.4 days of total STREAM TIME, not real time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365754Basically, Stephano lied to you. He would need an average of between 35,000 and 40,000 viewers streaming 24 hours a day for 2 days in a row with no breaks to earn $5,000 USD in two days. 2GD did not question his figures and he works for Twitch. Does 2GD handle the money shipments? Do you?
I handle math, good sir.
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