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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 18:25 GMT
#541
Thank you Asha`, unsung hero of the forums

I type terribly slow in english so I probably shouldn't be the one to carry on
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
September 21 2012 18:25 GMT
#542
Robert is a celebrity because he dances on stage at the end of his tournaments... lol
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
September 21 2012 18:25 GMT
#543
On September 22 2012 03:11 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:09 zaii wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:06 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:03 MLG_Adam wrote:
He was being sensational on purpose. Chill.

You should chill to be honest. There are five people posting in this thread. 3962 other people are actually listening and thinking about what is said on the panel. Chill.


rofl thinking? do you see that troll chat?

Alright. Subtract about 50 more. Still no reason for a MLG representative to act like this.


Are you this offended that I said to 'chill'? It was not intended to be combative, apologies if I upset you. Have a great weekend.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
September 21 2012 18:26 GMT
#544
On September 22 2012 03:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:09 Assirra wrote:
On September 22 2012 02:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bo1 is never a good idea if we want the better players to win, as statistically the better players will win the longer BoX series. I don't like such volatility from Bo1 either, where one cheese could knock half the great players out of the tournament. Who would want to watch the rest of the weekend?

If he was the better player he would have stopped the cheese of the other player.
Why do people always act like cheese is a lower lvl of play, its a strategy like an other and if it works said player deserves to win and is the better player then.


I'm not saying that a better player will always lose to a worse player who cheeses, and I think you're missing the statistical fact of longer series reducing the volatility of results between players who are measuredly better and worse.

So why don't we play Bo101, Bo10001? The only way to figure out the absolute best player is to play Best of positive Infinity right?
Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
September 21 2012 18:26 GMT
#545
That was awesome, really enjoyed it all.
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 18:28:21
September 21 2012 18:27 GMT
#546
On September 22 2012 03:26 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 Assirra wrote:
On September 22 2012 02:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bo1 is never a good idea if we want the better players to win, as statistically the better players will win the longer BoX series. I don't like such volatility from Bo1 either, where one cheese could knock half the great players out of the tournament. Who would want to watch the rest of the weekend?

If he was the better player he would have stopped the cheese of the other player.
Why do people always act like cheese is a lower lvl of play, its a strategy like an other and if it works said player deserves to win and is the better player then.


I'm not saying that a better player will always lose to a worse player who cheeses, and I think you're missing the statistical fact of longer series reducing the volatility of results between players who are measuredly better and worse.

So why don't we play Bo101, Bo10001? The only way to figure out the absolute best player is to play Best of positive Infinity right?

Yes, I wonder why tournaments don't do Bo101s. You should contact them.

Edit: In case you don't understand this, you have to balance between fairness, time and entertainment for the viewers.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 21 2012 18:27 GMT
#547
Was certainly entertaining. Thanks.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 18:27 GMT
#548
Great initiative!

Really enjoyed watching this, good parts of every panel - I still think the most reasureing one was the Marketing-guys going at it - However, I hope that the 6 guys who just left the stage will be the ones that really gets to sit down, get shitfaced and make great things happen together.
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 21 2012 18:28 GMT
#549
On September 22 2012 03:23 Ein0r wrote:
"They are killing esports, no bullshit" (by setting up monoculture)

Mh.. i wonder. Would you guys stop watching Stacraft 2 tournaments, or League of Legends tournaments, when Blizzard or Riot only would produce those tournaments? (Different country tournaments, one big tournament, etc)

Would it become boring?
Because if they want to set something like this up, those companies will hire the needed people that have enough competence and knowledge of how to organise such a tournament.


Generally when a sports grows large enough, it becomes consolidated under one league. The culture then grows from grassroots support into team support based on region.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 21 2012 18:28 GMT
#550
I liked it. every panel was interesting, my favorite was the broadcast one. The CBSi guy impressed me a lot.
keep it deep! @zulison
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 18:29:26
September 21 2012 18:28 GMT
#551
On September 22 2012 03:25 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:11 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 zaii wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:06 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:03 MLG_Adam wrote:
He was being sensational on purpose. Chill.

You should chill to be honest. There are five people posting in this thread. 3962 other people are actually listening and thinking about what is said on the panel. Chill.


rofl thinking? do you see that troll chat?

Alright. Subtract about 50 more. Still no reason for a MLG representative to act like this.


Are you this offended that I said to 'chill'? It was not intended to be combative, apologies if I upset you. Have a great weekend.

I wasn't personally offended. Don't think anyone was offended. That's not something anyone has touched here at all. Maybe you were offended? So offended by comments that you made the comment to begin with? I don't know and I don't care. We're here for the same reasons. Just be sure to not mistake a vocal minority for the whole community, that could potentially be very dangerous.

ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 18:29 GMT
#552
I doubt there are any e-sport rookies watching that dosn't know about this, but in case you were wondering about the "Beyond the Game"-reference...

Here it is

The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 21 2012 18:29 GMT
#553
On September 22 2012 03:26 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 Assirra wrote:
On September 22 2012 02:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bo1 is never a good idea if we want the better players to win, as statistically the better players will win the longer BoX series. I don't like such volatility from Bo1 either, where one cheese could knock half the great players out of the tournament. Who would want to watch the rest of the weekend?

If he was the better player he would have stopped the cheese of the other player.
Why do people always act like cheese is a lower lvl of play, its a strategy like an other and if it works said player deserves to win and is the better player then.


I'm not saying that a better player will always lose to a worse player who cheeses, and I think you're missing the statistical fact of longer series reducing the volatility of results between players who are measuredly better and worse.

So why don't we play Bo101, Bo10001? The only way to figure out the absolute best player is to play Best of positive Infinity right?

If you're watching a poker tournament and it gets down to three way or heads up, would you prefer for them to just go all in for a coin flip, or play it out to see who is the better player? The coin flip can be tense and exciting at times, but that's only because we don't constantly see it. If we're seeing nothing but coin flips, doesn't that kind of stagnate the game a bit and cheapen the win?
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
September 21 2012 18:30 GMT
#554
Good shit
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
September 21 2012 18:30 GMT
#555
On September 22 2012 03:27 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:26 chisuri wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 Assirra wrote:
On September 22 2012 02:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bo1 is never a good idea if we want the better players to win, as statistically the better players will win the longer BoX series. I don't like such volatility from Bo1 either, where one cheese could knock half the great players out of the tournament. Who would want to watch the rest of the weekend?

If he was the better player he would have stopped the cheese of the other player.
Why do people always act like cheese is a lower lvl of play, its a strategy like an other and if it works said player deserves to win and is the better player then.


I'm not saying that a better player will always lose to a worse player who cheeses, and I think you're missing the statistical fact of longer series reducing the volatility of results between players who are measuredly better and worse.

So why don't we play Bo101, Bo10001? The only way to figure out the absolute best player is to play Best of positive Infinity right?

Yes, I wonder why tournaments don't do Bo101s. You should contact them.

Edit: In case you don't understand this, you have to balance between fairness, time and entertainment for the viewers.

i don't need to. I'm fine with their using Bo1. Some people are too worked up with the idea "better player needs to win".
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
September 21 2012 18:31 GMT
#556
On September 22 2012 03:28 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:25 MLG_Adam wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:11 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 zaii wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:06 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:03 MLG_Adam wrote:
He was being sensational on purpose. Chill.

You should chill to be honest. There are five people posting in this thread. 3962 other people are actually listening and thinking about what is said on the panel. Chill.


rofl thinking? do you see that troll chat?

Alright. Subtract about 50 more. Still no reason for a MLG representative to act like this.


Are you this offended that I said to 'chill'? It was not intended to be combative, apologies if I upset you. Have a great weekend.

I wasn't personally offended. Don't think anyone was offended. That's not something anyone has touched here at all. Maybe you were offended? So offended by comments that you made the comment to begin with? I don't know and I don't care. We're here for the same reasons. Just be sure to not mistake a vocal minority for the whole community, that could potentially be very dangerous.




Three word respsonse.

Beyond
The
Game
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
September 21 2012 18:31 GMT
#557
On September 22 2012 03:25 ELA wrote:
Thank you Asha`, unsung hero of the forums

I type terribly slow in english so I probably shouldn't be the one to carry on


Seconded. Am at work and couldn't watch the stream. Greatly appreciate the transcript
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 21 2012 18:32 GMT
#558
This was great and I really enjoyed the two last panels. Props for the initiative and thanks to those participating.

And I hope the sound won't be an issue this weekend. Hopefully it was just a trouble to get all those microphones to play nice.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45003 Posts
September 21 2012 18:32 GMT
#559
On September 22 2012 03:26 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 Assirra wrote:
On September 22 2012 02:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bo1 is never a good idea if we want the better players to win, as statistically the better players will win the longer BoX series. I don't like such volatility from Bo1 either, where one cheese could knock half the great players out of the tournament. Who would want to watch the rest of the weekend?

If he was the better player he would have stopped the cheese of the other player.
Why do people always act like cheese is a lower lvl of play, its a strategy like an other and if it works said player deserves to win and is the better player then.


I'm not saying that a better player will always lose to a worse player who cheeses, and I think you're missing the statistical fact of longer series reducing the volatility of results between players who are measuredly better and worse.

So why don't we play Bo101, Bo10001? The only way to figure out the absolute best player is to play Best of positive Infinity right?


Yeah exactly. There's actually not a single good reason why every series in a weekend-long tournament isn't a "best of positive infinity" match.

I'm going to just assume you're attempting to be funny and that your comment was rhetorical. Please don't reply to me unless you have something intelligent to say on the topic.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
September 21 2012 18:32 GMT
#560
On September 22 2012 03:31 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:28 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:25 MLG_Adam wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:11 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:09 zaii wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:06 ellirc wrote:
On September 22 2012 03:03 MLG_Adam wrote:
He was being sensational on purpose. Chill.

You should chill to be honest. There are five people posting in this thread. 3962 other people are actually listening and thinking about what is said on the panel. Chill.


rofl thinking? do you see that troll chat?

Alright. Subtract about 50 more. Still no reason for a MLG representative to act like this.


Are you this offended that I said to 'chill'? It was not intended to be combative, apologies if I upset you. Have a great weekend.

I wasn't personally offended. Don't think anyone was offended. That's not something anyone has touched here at all. Maybe you were offended? So offended by comments that you made the comment to begin with? I don't know and I don't care. We're here for the same reasons. Just be sure to not mistake a vocal minority for the whole community, that could potentially be very dangerous.




Three word respsonse.

Beyond
The
Game

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