EPTEDIT: respect to the NASL guy anyway. He seems to know what's going on but has a problem with attention to his person.
EDIT2: could Sundance talk about anything but money at any moment? It's getting annoying how he loves himself...
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
EDIT: respect to the NASL guy anyway. He seems to know what's going on but has a problem with attention to his person. EDIT2: could Sundance talk about anything but money at any moment? It's getting annoying how he loves himself... | ||
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Massing
Germany354 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
Appears so. Shame really. The guy is actually very intelligent in a regular conversation. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45921 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:38 Falconblade wrote: Mad nervous, he's stuttering a lot now. Also talking to Redeye and not the Audience. Yeah that looked really bad... even moreso because it's so easy to compare his awkwardness to the ease in which the rest of the panelists are talking. | ||
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Hylirion
Netherlands968 Posts
Yeah I don't understand, NASL production quality is very very high, he has nothing to be ashamed of even sitting between MLG and dreamhack | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Yeah that looked really bad... even moreso because it's so easy to compare his awkwardness to the ease in which the rest of the panelists are talking. Yeah they should have had Lauren Elise there to represent NASL because of...reasons. For science. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45921 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:38 Massing wrote: fuckers lagging shit imout What does this even mean? o.O | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:38 Falconblade wrote: Mad nervous, he's stuttering a lot now. Also talking to Redeye and not the Audience. Yes they - or at least the ones on the left side - should try not to turn to Redeye as they then loses contact to the microphone, making it hard to be heard. n00b mistake. :p | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:40 Kevan wrote: Yeah they should have had Lauren Elise there to represent NASL because of...reasons. For science. For the viewers. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Talking about the impact of MLG on local economies, often very beneficial to local areas and they may well be able to get support for that. However Government involvement isn't necessarily wanted, but NA is diff. to EU and Asia in many ways. Robert: Another important point is that the NA leagues are all dealing with pretty much one market, while the EU leagues are dealing with a more fractured market which makes for a lot of extra challenges. Sundance: We all have our own geographical problems and every league does well to work those out, the next step is to work out how to solidify that to help each other out. Robert: really really fast baby steps redeye How do little leagues become big leagues in the face of the domination by the current big leagues. Ralf same way as small clans become big clans. you have to build up a track record, prove you can do it and then grow that concept. It's a thin line and you can't go too big too fast. You need a lot of hard work and a big understanding of the esports viewership and the players. That's why I think everyone on this panel is a true gamer. esports is very hard to understand and difficult to build up, we make mistakes, but learning from that and trying to please the partners, players, and viewership is what we do all day, and when we don't we talk to each other and try to improve it. redeye robert, you've had incredible growth lately, how did you move from byoc lan to full fledged esports Robert: we're a bit different in that we are more like the burning man of esports, but what we've done is taken the esports slice and improved it, worked on it, and are now taking it on the road. Esports needs a solid base of amateur gamers, grass roots movements, ams to semi-pros to pros. Russel: New leagues have to believe in their vision. You don't have to do the same as everyone else, listen to the community, but there is plenty of space and not everything has to be the same model. There's room in esports to fill a niche that someone else isn't and that will help push it too. You need the passion for it and you need to be confident in what you're doing. Just because someone didn't do something before doesn't mean that it was wrong. David: It has to be a project of passion. If people are coming into esports trying to make a profit they'll be making a mistake. If you're starting a new league you need to be in it for the long haul, and you need to be prepared to take a hit on your budget. Redeye: Do you think there's a misconception about how much money tournaments make Sundance i get told what a bastard i am each week for all the money i'm rolling in Robert ah, evil corporate sundance redeye what's reality David Personally, I have to project a budget, I project a loss right now, and then I have to explain that loss. If it all goes well then we can invest more instead. Sundance: We lost money in year 1-8, they've put more in than they've got out, but they have now turned the corner. Has gamebattles to help out, but where do you go from here is the next question. As Dave said we were a small company once too, you've just got to stick through the losses to reach your vision. The challenges are building a sustainable business with your limitations. redeye: Is that the same in Europe? Ralf Some years we make money, some years we lose money. Esports dark ages are behind it and we tend to break even, if not make money (which we normally invest into the next year). Making money doesn't mean you go out and buy a porche like sundance (everyone laughs) Everyone has to report to someone, if we don't lose money we're doing ok! | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:44 mrRoflpwn wrote: Just tuned in, its lagging so much I cannot even watch 15 seconds straight. 720p+ fixed everything for me, try that | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
"We're doing it make money but reinvest revenue. We do it to make it better, badder more beautiful for the viewers. If we end up not going to the poor house, good for us" Freely quoted* | ||
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Grettin
42400 Posts
Yup, it's been working pretty flawlessly for hours here. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45921 Posts
Read as: possibility of pay-per-view and other things in general. Uh oh. Flaming incoming? | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
You are a genius! thank you. | ||
MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Sundance talking about the importance of sponsorship revenue for the business to stay financially stable. Read as: possibility of pay-per-view and other things in general. Uh oh. Flaming incoming? Why because he said direct to consumer revenue needs to be one of 4 pillars of revenue? | ||
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pAzand
Sweden539 Posts
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sinii
England989 Posts
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