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KeSPA 2012 Free Agency Period - Page 2

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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
September 06 2012 12:49 GMT
#21
Ok. So lets say the player wouldn't accept the team offer by 9/24.

Will he be eligible to go to:
a) foreign team
b) eSF team
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18553 Posts
September 06 2012 12:54 GMT
#22
On September 06 2012 21:23 Gosi wrote:
SKT1 takes both ZerO and RorO to finally have a legit Zerg line. ~~


Ever heard of GoRush and JulyZerg? :p
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 12:55 GMT
#23
SKT Roro please.

Probably never gonna happen.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 13:01:14
September 06 2012 12:57 GMT
#24
On September 06 2012 21:49 Frankon wrote:
Ok. So lets say the player wouldn't accept the team offer by 9/24.

Will he be eligible to go to:
a) foreign team
b) eSF team


a) probably, I don't see how you can stop that? If he's not contracted by anyone and there's no agreement with foreign teams there's no reason to presume foreign teams couldn't then try their hands to sign someone with the temptation of money and overseas travel.

b) no, there's an agreement not to sign players across organizations for a year.
Uncreative_Troll
Profile Joined October 2011
98 Posts
September 06 2012 12:57 GMT
#25
The process is as follows;
- The player's current team will have the first right to offer a contract, if negotiations break down, another team may provide an offer of better value.

From 9/7 to 9/10 begins the internal team contract offer. If there is no contract accepted during this time, external teams are allowed to offer a contract to the player (from 9/11 to 9/20). If in this period there is once again no contract offer/acceptance of contract, the player will once again renegotiate with their original team (9/21 to 9/24).


Sounds like a really bad system for the players, or? They can't compare offers while negotiating with their current team and (most of them) can't really use the interest of other teams to pressure the current team. When a player enters stage 2 it's kinda official that he has to accept a horrible contract (or no contract) in stage 3 when he doesn't find someone in stage 2... really weak starting point to get a decent contract.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
September 06 2012 13:01 GMT
#26
On September 06 2012 21:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh man, I have a feeling ZerO is going to be totally sick at this game in the future. Snag his ass.


people have been saying this about Zero and BW since his breakout season like 4-5 years ago lol


Because barely losing to Jangbi (the champion) in ro4 isn't good enough.
리노크 👑
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
September 06 2012 13:03 GMT
#27
On September 06 2012 21:57 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
Show nested quote +
The process is as follows;
- The player's current team will have the first right to offer a contract, if negotiations break down, another team may provide an offer of better value.

From 9/7 to 9/10 begins the internal team contract offer. If there is no contract accepted during this time, external teams are allowed to offer a contract to the player (from 9/11 to 9/20). If in this period there is once again no contract offer/acceptance of contract, the player will once again renegotiate with their original team (9/21 to 9/24).


Sounds like a really bad system for the players, or? They can't compare offers while negotiating with their current team and (most of them) can't really use the interest of other teams to pressure the current team. When a player enters stage 2 it's kinda official that he has to accept a horrible contract (or no contract) in stage 3 when he doesn't find someone in stage 2... really weak starting point to get a decent contract.



In many sports, there are different tiers/types of free agency. This one sounds like restricted free agency.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 06 2012 13:12 GMT
#28
On September 06 2012 21:54 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:23 Gosi wrote:
SKT1 takes both ZerO and RorO to finally have a legit Zerg line. ~~


Ever heard of GoRush and JulyZerg? :p


JulyZerg accomplished what during the month he was on SKT?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18553 Posts
September 06 2012 13:13 GMT
#29
On September 06 2012 22:12 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:54 sharkie wrote:
On September 06 2012 21:23 Gosi wrote:
SKT1 takes both ZerO and RorO to finally have a legit Zerg line. ~~


Ever heard of GoRush and JulyZerg? :p


JulyZerg accomplished what during the month he was on SKT?


Seems like you didn't get my point.

I mean good zergs transfering to SKT become mediocre :p
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 06 2012 13:23 GMT
#30
ok
antifan
Profile Joined August 2012
116 Posts
September 06 2012 13:49 GMT
#31
I hope a Korean team signs stephano
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
September 06 2012 13:54 GMT
#32
Roro is going to get a huge raise.
Stuck.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
September 06 2012 14:11 GMT
#33
On September 06 2012 21:49 Frankon wrote:
Ok. So lets say the player wouldn't accept the team offer by 9/24.

Will he be eligible to go to:
a) foreign team
b) eSF team


eSF no, there is a trade lock.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
September 06 2012 14:20 GMT
#34
Was never a big follower of BW, can anyone enlighten me around how much do these people make?
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 14:21:29
September 06 2012 14:21 GMT
#35

On September 06 2012 21:09 blamekilly wrote:
ESF teams can barely offer their players contracts money, I don't see how they can afford these guys unless they make very low salary. ~$15k.



then the question is do these players want money or freedom?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 06 2012 14:30 GMT
#36
On September 06 2012 23:21 Denzil wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:09 blamekilly wrote:
ESF teams can barely offer their players contracts money, I don't see how they can afford these guys unless they make very low salary. ~$15k.



then the question is do these players want money or freedom?


Actually, the choice is more about whether they want a good stable salary and an ideal training environment, or neither.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 06 2012 14:32 GMT
#37
On September 06 2012 23:20 S_SienZ wrote:
Was never a big follower of BW, can anyone enlighten me around how much do these people make?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=142342

Outdated, but can give you at least some idea.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 06 2012 14:52 GMT
#38
On September 06 2012 22:49 antifan wrote:
I hope a Korean team signs stephano


if it's a KeSPA team, that would mean no international tournament besides MLG, that's a no for me!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 06 2012 14:55 GMT
#39
On September 06 2012 23:52 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 22:49 antifan wrote:
I hope a Korean team signs stephano


if it's a KeSPA team, that would mean no international tournament besides MLG, that's a no for me!

If it's an ESF team though, that would mean no monetary income besides tournament prize money, that would be a no for him too I guess.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
September 06 2012 14:56 GMT
#40
Roro should bargain hard.
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