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On September 08 2012 11:33 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 11:17 fortheGG wrote:On September 08 2012 08:59 FlaShFTW wrote:On September 07 2012 19:08 ThePlayer33 wrote:On September 06 2012 21:09 blamekilly wrote:
ESF teams can barely offer their players contracts money, I don't see how they can afford these guys unless they make very low salary. ~$15k. 15k? id be suprised be they get anything above 5k per year you do realize flash made like 600k one year after KT won the spl finals right? doubt he continues to make that money or if he does, I doubt anyone has anything close to that Its a 2 year contracts. And BoxeR (could be NaDa) once made 750K a year. Once upon a time. Jaedong was making 100K at his prime, but that`s because OZ was litteraly a sweatshop for the guy. But Bisu have been consistently making 200K + since his trade from MBC.
Your numbers are inflated or you're confusing USD with won (and missing some zeroes if you're talking about wons). BoxeR made 780k USD over a course of three years. NaDa 500k USD also over three years on his 2004 contract. When NaDa went to WMF, he got a 750,000,000 won (~500k USD back then) contract from 2007 onward. In 2009, Bisu was on a 150,000,000 won (~100k USD back then) contract. Not bad if it is a one-year contract, but it wasn't afaik; everyone else in KeSPA in 2009 with the exception of NaDa and Moon (who was signed for ~470k USD over three years) made less than Bisu.
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There is some misunderstanding in this thread.
Zero, Roro, hyvaa and Jaehoon are not free agents nor are they up for grabs. They became *eligible* for free agency, a status earned by being a licensed KeSPA progamer for a certain amount of years. Many other players such as Jaedong are eligible for free agency.
They will become free agents if they want to openly negotiate their current comtracts, and won't be up for grabs until the negotiations with the current team fail.
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the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA.
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It couldn't be considered as transfer if an esf-team grabs one of this players as his contract is at his end, don't see why they can't simply make offers too, not logic
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On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA.
EG offered only 8k to Stephano, Kespa players wont even pick up the phone with such low salary.
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On September 08 2012 21:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA. EG offered only 8k to Stephano, Kespa players wont even pick up the phone with such low salary.
8k per month would be 108,576,000 Korean Won per year with current exchange rates, that's quite a bit no?
Comparing to this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=142342
Not saying that EG would ever do that, because they wouldn't.
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I dont think it would be good for KeSPA players to sign with foreign teams just yet. Give them a few months into HOTS under their strict Korean training regime to get on top first, then make the move.
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WOW, I never knew this period existed, I can't believe there will be non-lucrative offers for at least RorO and ZerO.
But don't think they will join non-KeSpa team tho.
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On September 08 2012 21:50 Incomplet wrote:
I dont think it would be good for KeSPA players to sign with foreign teams just yet. Give them a few months into HOTS under their strict Korean training regime to get on top first, then make the move.
Why would you choose to join a team that doesn't offer any kind of comparable training possibilities, let alone the insanely good practice partners that they had in their old kespa team? Joinin a non-kespa team doesn't make sense for anyone who's willing to keep his current skill level...
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On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA.
The trade lock helps EFS teams more than anybody else. KT or SKT can afford looting an entire EFS team before EG signs one KeSPA player.
Pretty sick, huh?
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I think some people are overestimating how much the average Kespa player gets paid. Yeah, players like Flash are making a huge salary, but what about players like Free and Classic? Probably not so much.
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On September 08 2012 21:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA. EG offered only 8k to Stephano, Kespa players wont even pick up the phone with such low salary.
Stephano is getting paid more by EG then like almost every Kespa player.
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On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA.
You should try reading the guy's post just above yours. -_-
On September 09 2012 04:39 GolemMadness wrote:
I think some people are overestimating how much the average Kespa player gets paid. Yeah, players like Flash are making a huge salary, but what about players like Free and Classic? Probably not so much.
Pebbles.
If you look at all the benefits Stephano has other than the base salary he's almost making more than them in one month. -_-
On September 09 2012 04:52 RifleCow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 21:13 sharkie wrote:On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA. EG offered only 8k to Stephano, Kespa players wont even pick up the phone with such low salary. Stephano is getting paid more by EG then like almost every Kespa player.
Yup if you aren't a franchise player you make shit.
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So is this "real" free agency where any team can sign them, or what US sports call "restricted free agency" where the current team can match any offers? I'm not really understanding the OP...
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http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=66491
Jaehoon has failed to negotiate a new contract with Team 8, and apparently is planning to retire if he can't receive a contract of his liking in the next couple of weeks or so (which I'll be honest, will probably not happen).
RorO, hyvaa and ZerO agreed to new contracts with their current teams.
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On September 11 2012 10:47 GTR wrote:http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=66491Jaehoon has failed to negotiate a new contract with Team 8, and apparently is planning to retire if he can't receive a contract of his liking in the next couple of weeks or so (which I'll be honest, will probably not happen). RorO, hyvaa and ZerO agreed to new contracts with their current teams.
Not that big of a loss for t8, if I recall.
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On September 11 2012 10:47 GTR wrote:http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=66491Jaehoon has failed to negotiate a new contract with Team 8, and apparently is planning to retire if he can't receive a contract of his liking in the next couple of weeks or so (which I'll be honest, will probably not happen). RorO, hyvaa and ZerO agreed to new contracts with their current teams.
Honestly saw that coming about Jaehoon, he didn't do enough for Team 8 the last 2 seasons to really warrant getting a new contract. Won't say that he will retire yet, because you never know, a team might want him.
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On September 11 2012 10:51 Kal_rA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 10:47 GTR wrote:http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=66491Jaehoon has failed to negotiate a new contract with Team 8, and apparently is planning to retire if he can't receive a contract of his liking in the next couple of weeks or so (which I'll be honest, will probably not happen). RorO, hyvaa and ZerO agreed to new contracts with their current teams. Not that big of a loss for t8, if I recall.
12-10 last season. 3rd best player. And 3rd best player in the season before that as well. The problem with the negotiations had to do with his salary. Whatever happens, he has no intention to retire, unless forced to do so. Does not want to go into the army just yet.
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On September 09 2012 04:52 RifleCow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 21:13 sharkie wrote:On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA. EG offered only 8k to Stephano, Kespa players wont even pick up the phone with such low salary. Stephano is getting paid more by EG then like almost every Kespa player.
I find it hilarious how you can claim that without any data to back it up.
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On September 08 2012 21:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 18:53 Surgical_Strike wrote:
the trade lock is between ESF and KESPA ... how sick would it be if EG stepped in and signed someone like Zero or Roro... their name would be in everyones mouths(sponsors would be happy), and it would be like a "Whats up now son? Didn't see that one coming did ya" to the bully KESPA. EG offered only 8k to Stephano, Kespa players wont even pick up the phone with such low salary.
Where is the source for the 8k?
Edit: It is also a difference for the saleries of non-KeSPA players, as they make much more money outside of their contracts. KeSPA players have no streaming income and much less tournaments (less pricemoney).
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