Jaedong finished the SPL with 10W 9L and 6W 3L in ace matches. Roro finished 8W 6L and 3W 4L in ace matches. On paper Jaedong performed better in SPL. Jaedong was 3W 2L against Zergs, and Roro was 2W 4L, and Jaedong was 6W 7L against Protoss, and Roro was 5W 2L.

AKnopf

Germany259 Posts

August 30 2012 12:53 GMT

#242

Tastosis casting Jea "the dong" dong, gonna be awesome

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

August 30 2012 12:56 GMT

#243

No Terran makes me sad.

Btw I wonder how this was decided. Did the Kespa players do internal qualification games? Or was it just based on a coach decision? That would suck I have to say.

Leetley

1796 Posts

August 30 2012 12:58 GMT

#244

On August 30 2012 21:53 AKnopf wrote:
Tastosis casting Jea "the dong" dong, gonna be awesome

Oh man, I'm getting chills already. Haha

Skwid1g

United States953 Posts

August 30 2012 12:58 GMT

#245

On August 30 2012 21:56 Redox wrote:
No Terran makes me sad.

Btw I wonder how this was decided. Did the Kespa players do internal qualification games? Or was it just based on a coach decision? That would suck I have to say.

It's based off SPL performance, with extra emphasis placed on ace match wins.

Fantasy not being seeded makes me upset. 6-1, beat Nestea, is a terran, is Fantasy, what more could you ask for?

Little-Chimp

Canada948 Posts

August 30 2012 12:58 GMT

#246

Awesome, can't wait to see Jaedong in code S

Tossi83

Poland24 Posts

August 30 2012 13:00 GMT

#247

On August 30 2012 18:37 snowbird wrote:
The seeds have nothing to do with popularity, afaik KeSPA used their proleague rankings (not exactly sure how they work)

A reddit user (rbcd) posted this:

Proleague Ranking

Code S:
Rain - 13-6, 7 ace match wins = 495
JaeDong 10-9, 6 ace match wins = 390

Code A:
Trap =11-4, 3 ace match wins = 375
RoRo = 9-6, 3 ace match wins = 315
Effort = 9-8, 3 ace match wins = 315
Shy 9-2 = 270

Barely Missed the cut:
Hero 8-5, 2 ace match wins = 270
Stork 8-3, 1 ace match win = 255
Soulkey 7-7, 1 ace match win = 225
Stats 6-2, 2 ace match wins = 210

I think this should be edited into the first post.

virpi

Germany3599 Posts

August 30 2012 13:01 GMT

#248

yep, it's a bit sad for roro, but jaedong is also a big name, who can draw lots of attention. I hope he can improve his weak matchups and perform well.

edit: ah ok, that ranking makes sense. whatever, I'm definitely looking forward to the next season!

EAGER-beaver

Canada2799 Posts

August 30 2012 13:04 GMT

#249

I'm the biggest jaedong fanboy on the internets, my hwaseung calendar signed by his team is my most prized possession but I dunno if he's quite ready for code S. He did crazy well in the wcs tournament, but I'm still really nervous for him.

Drake

Germany6146 Posts

August 30 2012 13:06 GMT

#250

On August 30 2012 18:10 Incomplet wrote:
Pfff. Jaedong instead of Roro. I guess business reigned supreme over current skill level and accomplishments

jaeh all seeds are nice the only thing is that roro would be better in code s then jaedong

also reality would be nice and not trap because reality even was the only who qualified for wcs korea qualifier and not got invited and made a nice run there

ahh i see only peroleague well its sad becauzse herO did SO well in wcs ^^

AceLight

New Zealand220 Posts

August 30 2012 13:07 GMT

#251

On August 30 2012 22:00 Tossi83 wrote:

Show nested quote +

I think this should be edited into the first post.

On it~

Gorlin

United States2753 Posts

August 30 2012 13:09 GMT

#252

Jaedong had a better proleague performance than Roro, it's really not unreasonable that he gets the Code S seed over Roro...

edit: As the post above me makes clear. It's just like in WCS when people thought Kespa chose the players to send (looking at you TL writers who kept saying they "hand-picked" players...). It simply goes by the proleague ranking.

On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote:
Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket.
Finish 4th overall.
Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0.
Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS
Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S

Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.

Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.

Come on, why would you post this.

Dionyseus

United States2068 Posts

August 30 2012 13:17 GMT

#253

On August 30 2012 18:37 snowbird wrote:

Show nested quote +

The seeds have nothing to do with popularity, afaik KeSPA used their proleague rankings (not exactly sure how they work)

A reddit user (rbcd) posted this:

Proleague Ranking

Code S:
Rain - 13-6, 7 ace match wins = 495
JaeDong 10-9, 6 ace match wins = 390

Code A:
Trap =11-4, 3 ace match wins = 375
RoRo = 9-6, 3 ace match wins = 315
Effort = 9-8, 3 ace match wins = 315
Shy 9-2 = 270

Barely Missed the cut:
Hero 8-5, 2 ace match wins = 270
Stork 8-3, 1 ace match win = 255
Soulkey 7-7, 1 ace match win = 225
Stats 6-2, 2 ace match wins = 210

Looks like they give lots of points for ace match wins which makes sense, they're the most important games in their BW/SC2 hybrid format.

6NR

United States1472 Posts

August 30 2012 13:25 GMT

#254

Eh Jaedong? I mean he's doing good but if I have to be honest Roro deserves that spot more.
Anyway, grats to all Kespa. By.Rain will clean up the GSL.

massivez

Belgium653 Posts

August 30 2012 13:31 GMT

#255

I actualy would've liked Jaedong in Code A. Not because he's not good enough, but because the pressure will be huge. Every Gom pro and his mom will want to take him down (He also still needs to practice bw for the Proleague play-offs). Beïng in Code A is a lot less pressure with having to play less established pro's, and only needing to practice 1 matchup at a time.
Anyway, hope he does well.

P.S. Hope Effort rolls through Code A!

DiMano

Korea (South)2066 Posts

August 30 2012 13:33 GMT

#256

On August 30 2012 22:06 CoR wrote:

Show nested quote +

Proleague is always the 1st priority for KeSPA players, Reality even said that he practiced more BW then SC2 before his WCS game.

On August 30 2012 22:25 6NR wrote:
Eh Jaedong? I mean he's doing good but if I have to be honest Roro deserves that spot more.
Anyway, grats to all Kespa. By.Rain will clean up the GSL.

I have to be honest you did not watch Proleague and trying to judge according to WCS that is not right.
I recommend you to watch this game from Jaedong (Trap is the best player on STX):

And this amazing hold in ZvZ:

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

August 30 2012 13:46 GMT

#257

I wonder if one of them will be in Nani's group. Would it be the first foreigner vs Kespa match? They can't be same group as Mana since all 3 should be in tier 4.

NuKE[vZ]

United States249 Posts

August 30 2012 13:48 GMT

#258

RoRo should have got the Code S seed, and REALITY a Code A seed. They're better than most of the guys listed that are seeded, popularity contest once again.

Also pretty foolish they go off of Proleague results... it's players on the same level playing against each other...

OSL, WCG, WCS should have been taken into count more, it was KESPA vs. GSL aka much harder and more demanding, results mattered way more.

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

August 30 2012 13:50 GMT

#259

Did you read the thread? It was based on PL points ranking... You can't just base it on WCS.

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

August 30 2012 13:52 GMT

#260

On August 30 2012 22:48 NuKE[vZ] wrote:
RoRo should have got the Code S seed, and REALITY a Code A seed. They're better than most of the guys listed that are seeded, popularity contest once again.

Also pretty foolish they go off of Proleague results... it's players on the same level playing against each other...

OSL, WCG, WCS should have been taken into count more, it was KESPA vs. GSL aka much harder and more demanding, results mattered way more.

And how would you create a perfectly fair system for all these events which had seeding?