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On August 30 2012 12:40 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:37 freakhill wrote:
Destiny should sue that girl. What she did is clearly illegal. What did she do? It's not like she hacked his computer. He willingly gave her pictures of his penis. He willingly gave her his password. What she did was wrong and supremely immature, but Destiny should have known better as well. This is a case where there is no victim. Both acted like children.
If what was said is true, she apparently snooped into private conversation by using private credentials without authorization. If I gave you my credit card information to help me for something one time, it doesn't give you the right to loot my bank account the next week.
Then she broadcasted embarrassing pictures with malign intentions (again by mean of identity falsification).
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On August 30 2012 12:49 FairForever wrote:
It's still not illegal, assuming Destiny knowingly provided her the pictures. Which he did by giving her his passwords.
The work case is there, but seeing as how these pictures aren't work-related I don't see how that argument would hold water. I would have to look into legal cases in the US to see (I'm a Canadian).
Yeah BECAUSE you send someone private pictures and you grand him access to your twitterpages actually allows you to post pictures of his dick. I think your head holds a bit too much air.
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Northern Ireland25599 Posts
On August 30 2012 12:52 Hostile wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:46 Hentosai wrote:
It makes me sad how a vocal minority ruins things for the majority, you will contatact sponsers to say that so and so did this and that and you wont support them but i know you are not contacting them suporting them for sponsering the team in the first place. I love watching destiny for who he is, and will continue watching him wether he is on a team, playing pro starcraft or anything else he streams cause he is an entertaining person. It makes me extremely happy that teams can be held accountable for what players they hire do. If ROOT had it's way it would look like they would have found any reason to keep Destiny on-board. You can't ****ing control Destiny so why did ROOT even bother signing him in the first place if something was bound to happen?
Held accountable by insufferably pious people with nothing better to do with their time? In this instance some of the people emailing sponsors weren't even familiar with the SC2 scene or indeed who Destiny is.
Having no clue about context or indeed the whole story, kneejerking in response and getting somebody 'fired' isn't a reasonable form of accountability at all.
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The bottom line is that you are a professional. Act like it.
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Destiny has done this to himself by fucking up over and over and over.... Not like this is the first time something has happened. He has nobody to blame but himself.
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On August 30 2012 12:53 LeaF_SD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:45 ROOTFayth wrote:
public image so important, let's all lease 100k cars so we look like ballers guys
w/e I'm done LOL, this guy obviously doesn't know what branding means. This guy needs to go
100x this! i still cant figure out why they want to damage ROOT any further, TT1 is bad enough in this thread with his "i feel so bad so i post her pic again because people didnt read OP" fayth comes in and degrades and absuses this girl AGAIN. really good behavior.
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On August 30 2012 12:53 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:52 EnE wrote:On August 30 2012 12:42 ROOTFayth wrote:On August 30 2012 12:37 EnE wrote:
Fayth, there's a difference between being truthful, in spite of the negative consequences, and stating your opinions with apparent remorseless intent to hurt others.
Look at how DEEPLY different these statements are:
"to be entirely blunt, I don't think you're attractive, I'm sorry about that"
"Look at her she looks like a man so fucking hideous haha why doesnt she wear a bag on her head"
It's pathetically transparent how you try to pass off your continued insults on this public forum as "not denying that you said you didnt find her attractive." ok I'll be careful with my wording, but essentially both statements mean the same thing No, they don't essentially mean the same thing, holy shit. you must have felt sad before? Right, like emotions? That's like saying "oh look haha terrorists flew planes into the world trade center LOL I bet some stupid kids died hah im probably going to go buy an ice cream for my children now unlike those parents since their kids got owned" and "It seems there's been a tragic attack in new york today, my heart goes out to everyone who lost their lives prematurely that day and my deepest condolences and prayers to their families" are "esentially" the same thing because they both state the exact same fact.... There's simply a big difference in what they say, imply and what they mean to other people. Tl;dr: don't be surprised people dont like you when you act like a cunt. I didn't know that it was an opinion that the WTCs were attacked. I'll be sure to inform the families that it was just an opinion and did not actually happen.
What the fuck....is that...supposed...to mean? That makes no sense. It doesn't mean anything. What makes it even more stupid, is that you act like an opinion can't be a fact and vice versa, they're not mutually exclusive and even if they were, which they are demonstrably not, it wouldn't be relevant at all to that part of my point.
What the fuck was the point in you writing that?
Please don't use sarcasm if it's not adding emphasis to any kind of argument whatsoever, it makes you look like a moron.
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Northern Ireland25599 Posts
On August 30 2012 12:56 nikoYO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:53 LeaF_SD wrote:On August 30 2012 12:45 ROOTFayth wrote:
public image so important, let's all lease 100k cars so we look like ballers guys
w/e I'm done LOL, this guy obviously doesn't know what branding means. This guy needs to go 100x this! i still cant figure out why they want to damage ROOT any further, TT1 is bad enough in this thread with his "i feel so bad so i post her pic again because people didnt read OP" fayth comes in and degrades and absuses this girl AGAIN. really good behavior.
In TT1's case he was posting a non-revealing picture to clear up a misconception that Destiny was referring to nude pics from a 15 year old girl. Seems reasonable to me?
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I support Destiny.
That conversation was private, he never intended to have it seen by everyone. What she did was premeditated. She did it to hurt him.
Destiny calling her ugly is his opinion. Is he not allowed to call someone ugly?? if that's illegal, than throw me in jail.
She went into his private account, posted pictures on his account which should be illegal. I would sue her, he has lost job at Root. Destiny, sue her if you can.
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On August 30 2012 06:29 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 06:28 TechNoTrance wrote:On August 30 2012 06:23 vali wrote:
I guess a lot of people want to ruin destinys career just because he is batter than then in a video game and they can't handle it, so sad. Yeah that must be it... seeing as how she went out of her way to make it public.....
Because she is jealous that he is better at starcraft than her? Read his post thoroughly and try again.
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the root of all of this is he took pics of his dick  i mean seriously. just dont do it
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On August 30 2012 12:40 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:37 freakhill wrote:
Destiny should sue that girl. What she did is clearly illegal. What did she do? It's not like she hacked his computer. He willingly gave her pictures of his penis. He willingly gave her his password. What she did was wrong and supremely immature, but Destiny should have known better as well. This is a case where there is no victim. Both acted like children.
In court, there could be a victim. I am a minor, I liked Destiny's facebook page, he never posted any nsfw pictures. Then a dick appears in my stream. I didn't click anything saying "Yes agree to see explicit material." And I'm not even 18 so that doesn't even matter. Bluetea used Destiny's account to break the law and expose thousands of people, including minors to explicit material without their consent. I could sue her for that and Destiny could sue her for damage to character as now he loses his job with his team and is defamed in his community.
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foreigner jokeSport pretending to be big and serious... high school once again yeah
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Lebron and Dwade got overheard sharing nude pics of a WNBA player and talkin shit about her looks. After that they twitter that they still think she's ugly but it's just their own opinion and it shouldnt matter right??
As always, the incident itself isnt the biggest deal. The problem is the behaviour of all people involved after that. Destiny's reddit about fuckin up her scholarship and whatnot and every single post made from root players in this thread.
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On August 30 2012 12:56 EnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:53 Dosey wrote:On August 30 2012 12:52 EnE wrote:On August 30 2012 12:42 ROOTFayth wrote:On August 30 2012 12:37 EnE wrote:
Fayth, there's a difference between being truthful, in spite of the negative consequences, and stating your opinions with apparent remorseless intent to hurt others.
Look at how DEEPLY different these statements are:
"to be entirely blunt, I don't think you're attractive, I'm sorry about that"
"Look at her she looks like a man so fucking hideous haha why doesnt she wear a bag on her head"
It's pathetically transparent how you try to pass off your continued insults on this public forum as "not denying that you said you didnt find her attractive." ok I'll be careful with my wording, but essentially both statements mean the same thing No, they don't essentially mean the same thing, holy shit. you must have felt sad before? Right, like emotions? That's like saying "oh look haha terrorists flew planes into the world trade center LOL I bet some stupid kids died hah im probably going to go buy an ice cream for my children now unlike those parents since their kids got owned" and "It seems there's been a tragic attack in new york today, my heart goes out to everyone who lost their lives prematurely that day and my deepest condolences and prayers to their families" are "esentially" the same thing because they both state the exact same fact.... There's simply a big difference in what they say, imply and what they mean to other people. Tl;dr: don't be surprised people dont like you when you act like a cunt. I didn't know that it was an opinion that the WTCs were attacked. I'll be sure to inform the families that it was just an opinion and did not actually happen. What the fuck....is that...supposed...to mean? That makes no sense. It doesn't mean anything. What makes it even more stupid, is that you act like an opinion can't be a fact and vice versa, they're not mutually exclusive and even if they were, which they are demonstrably not, it wouldn't be relevant at all to that part of my point. What the fuck was the point in you writing that?
We are talking about opinions here and you try to bring in a tragic event to make him look even more like the bad guy? Nice straw man homie.
A more appropriate comparison would be:
"Our Professor doesn't seem to know what he is talking about"
or
"Our Professor is a fucking idiot! I could teach our class better than him!"
In which case I would still submit that both are equally insulting and you should not back down on your chosen wording once confronted.
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On August 30 2012 12:54 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:52 Hostile wrote:On August 30 2012 12:46 Hentosai wrote:
It makes me sad how a vocal minority ruins things for the majority, you will contatact sponsers to say that so and so did this and that and you wont support them but i know you are not contacting them suporting them for sponsering the team in the first place. I love watching destiny for who he is, and will continue watching him wether he is on a team, playing pro starcraft or anything else he streams cause he is an entertaining person. It makes me extremely happy that teams can be held accountable for what players they hire do. If ROOT had it's way it would look like they would have found any reason to keep Destiny on-board. You can't ****ing control Destiny so why did ROOT even bother signing him in the first place if something was bound to happen? Held accountable by insufferably pious people with nothing better to do with their time? In this instance some of the people emailing sponsors weren't even familiar with the SC2 scene or indeed who Destiny is. Having no clue about context or indeed the whole story, kneejerking in response and getting somebody 'fired' isn't a reasonable form of accountability at all.
If it was easy enough for random people to understand Destiny's kind of a dick/straight-forward ****ing boss, sponsors should know whom they're sponsoring. People love Destiny for his complete bluntness but will begrudge someone's honest opinion when they're said to a sponsor.
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On August 30 2012 12:58 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:56 nikoYO wrote:On August 30 2012 12:53 LeaF_SD wrote:On August 30 2012 12:45 ROOTFayth wrote:
public image so important, let's all lease 100k cars so we look like ballers guys
w/e I'm done LOL, this guy obviously doesn't know what branding means. This guy needs to go 100x this! i still cant figure out why they want to damage ROOT any further, TT1 is bad enough in this thread with his "i feel so bad so i post her pic again because people didnt read OP" fayth comes in and degrades and absuses this girl AGAIN. really good behavior. In TT1's case he was posting a non-revealing picture to clear up a misconception that Destiny was referring to nude pics from a 15 year old girl. Seems reasonable to me?
no sorry it isnt reasonable. its not TT1 job. it would be CatZ job to make a clear OP. he has no business outing this girl here on TL . did you see here picture before on here or knew what she looked like? place a big red dot on her face or what ever but dont OUT and ridicule her again. come on man. i really like root and im angry this isnt handled better.
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On August 30 2012 13:01 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Lebron and Dwade got overheard sharing nude pics of a WNBA player and talkin shit about her looks. After that they twitter that they still think she's ugly but it's just their own opinion and it shouldnt matter right??
EXACTLY, it shouldnt matter. Because it was THEIR opinion, why should they change it all of a sudden?
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On August 30 2012 13:00 sAsImre wrote:
foreigner jokeSport pretending to be big and serious... high school once again yeah
I'm really baffled that a low tier team like ROOT can stir up this kind of drama bigger than the kespa esf drama
inb4 people swarm me with hate replies for saying root is a low tier team
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On August 30 2012 04:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Destiny isn't being released because we think he is a racist, or because we think any of the things that haters make him out to be are true. In my opinion, Destiny is a genuine, outspoken and sincere person, a very good friend...
Destiny is outspoken and genuine and that is exactly why he was released, so I don't understand why you're beating around the bush. When you are a public personality you have to censor yourself. He doesn't. When you play with fire, eventually you're bound to get burned.
Too bad Fayth and TT1 got caught up in it.
If people want E-Sports to be respected, then the people involved with E-Sports have to be respectable people. You can't be involved in misogynistic conversations that get released to the public. That doesn't make you respectable.
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