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Its likely that this has affected Bluetea in some way, its just gotten too big to not affect her life at all. However keep in mind that she seems to go to LSU which probably does not have power due to Hurricane Issac
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On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over.
yeah man we need more misery and personal violation, let's fuck with people some more! IN THE NAAAAAAAAAME OF JUSTIIIIIIICE
there's such a wide gulf between me and people that really, truly think spreading nude photos of people you know for no goddamn reason doesn't count as any kind of offense worth mentioning that I don't think any worthwhile communication or understanding can occur. about the only thing I have to say is that I'm not convinced privacy is even worth talking about in a shared skype chat with people that are apparently so craven as to leak their friends' secrets, which seems to fit destiny's teammates and "friends".
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this ought to be adapted into some kind of an sc2 telenovela :-p
what many of them haters fail to comprehend is that all this drama yet again increases the value of the brand 'destiny'
he is in the news, good for him. is it something controversial ppl get emotional about? even better!
humans are a lowly creatures. theyt prey on others misery because it is the easiest way to face away from their own problems.
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On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer 
Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy?
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Okey, so I have no idea on wtf is up. What pictures was leaked? by who? and why?
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On August 31 2012 15:24 [F_]aths wrote:
The question is, did Destiny learn a lesson or does he now feel especially free to do what he wants without caring about the consequences?
The lesson he learned was probably not the one you'd like him to "learn".
The actual lesson has more to do with the benefits of not sharing passwords with other people and/or changing them often if you do.
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On August 31 2012 16:05 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Okey, so I have no idea on wtf is up. What pictures was leaked? by who? and why?
Threre are 127 thread pages that call for your attention. Especially the FIRST ONE
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So who leaked the convo to the girl if it was a private conversation with two "friends"?
edit:
[1:09:41 PM] Payam Toghyan: who even makes eye contact
[1:09:43 PM] Payam Toghyan: thats so 80's
hahahaha
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On August 31 2012 16:03 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy?
I am a third generation lawman pursueing a degree in crimal justice to become a lawyer. I can tell you that what transpired here was not against the law in any form per se. There are however some misdemeanor offenses that could potienally have enough traction to go to court if either of them have enough evidence. A judge would look at both of them like they were crazy to show up in circuit court over this. The best any of them could get is maybe Judge Judy or some small calims court. Small claims court might be the best choice for both of them if it is taken to the courtroom in the first place. Problem is I do not think neither of them have a solid case and it will most likely get thrown out. FYI going after somebody for slander is really hard to win period. Been there and seen it first person, it is rough no matter how bad it may seem.
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Destiny will be fine. He's said in the past that team association doesn't make much difference to him because he makes most of his money from streaming.
Really he's better on his own, as that fringe member of the community that lots of us enjoy watching, but is just a bit too disreputable to be mainstream. And that's really the core of it; Destiny isn't mainstream and doesn't want to be. So why should he be on a team?
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On August 31 2012 16:05 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Okey, so I have no idea on wtf is up. What pictures was leaked? by who? and why?
This is the thrust of what's happened so far:
Some tits and dicks were shown and the community gets its' panties in a wad trying to defend one position or the other. Destiny and co. should just apologize and have makeup sex but apparently humble pie is difficult to swallow. It didn't take long for things to come to a head and get blown out of proportion. The members of this community comes down too hard on itself sometimes.
I'm spent.
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On August 31 2012 15:52 centinel4 wrote:
everyone is focusing on Destiny and the "ugly" girl. the real villain in this story is the as-s-ho-le that leaked the conversation to her. fkn betrayer. that is the one that destiny should go and punch in the face for being such a p-uss-y traitor.
I trash talk the whole time about girls. Girls do the same about guys. this scaled way out of proportion.
either trolling or Tl:Dr thread. She had his login details and was snooping on private conversations. Nobody dobbed Destiny in as she had access to his skype conversations etc. Unclear if he actually sent her the dick pic too? could have lifted it from his online files? not sure about that or if it's been covered.
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what a ''Dick'' move ... but srsly destiny went way to far with this shit -.-'
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On August 31 2012 18:17 Dirt McGirt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 15:52 centinel4 wrote:
everyone is focusing on Destiny and the "ugly" girl. the real villain in this story is the as-s-ho-le that leaked the conversation to her. fkn betrayer. that is the one that destiny should go and punch in the face for being such a p-uss-y traitor.
I trash talk the whole time about girls. Girls do the same about guys. this scaled way out of proportion.
either trolling or Tl:Dr thread. She had his login details and was snooping on private conversations. Nobody dobbed Destiny in as she had access to his skype conversations etc. Unclear if he actually sent her the dick pic too? could have lifted it from his online files? not sure about that or if it's been covered.
He's right and I kinda agree with him. According to her reddit post which can be found in the OP someone leaked the skype conversation to her. So even though she had the login-information to his email account, she did not have access to his skype-acc when the conversation took place.
"I'll come out and say this is Bluetea. I really have nothing to lose.
Long story short, Steven leaked nude pictures of me to his Skype friends. He then joked about how "fucking hideous" my face is compared to my "beautiful body." They joked about how I look like Shrek. I do have a big nose, I guess.
Someone who apparently was in the chat room emailed me from a gmail account consisting of a bunch of random numbers. It had the chatlog."
My question still stands, who leaked it if only two friends took part?
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On August 31 2012 16:54 bK- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 16:03 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy? I am a third generation lawman pursueing a degree in crimal justice to become a lawyer. I can tell you that what transpired here was not against the law in any form per se. There are however some misdemeanor offenses that could potienally have enough traction to go to court if either of them have enough evidence. A judge would look at both of them like they were crazy to show up in circuit court over this. The best any of them could get is maybe Judge Judy or some small calims court. Small claims court might be the best choice for both of them if it is taken to the courtroom in the first place. Problem is I do not think neither of them have a solid case and it will most likely get thrown out. FYI going after somebody for slander is really hard to win period. Been there and seen it first person, it is rough no matter how bad it may seem.
So lets sum this up : You are basically saying that you are not violating any laws by hacking someones twitter account and tweeting the private parts of someone to the public.
You dont have to be a lawyer to assume its against the law, genius.
Furthermore i m not quite sure its ok to post dick pics in public when underaged persons are able to view it, esp. in a country where a naked tit causes a national scandal.
But then again i m thinking he shouldnt sue her, still you are a naive to think this was not illegal.
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On August 31 2012 18:33 Sokrates wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 16:54 bK- wrote:On August 31 2012 16:03 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy? I am a third generation lawman pursueing a degree in crimal justice to become a lawyer. I can tell you that what transpired here was not against the law in any form per se. There are however some misdemeanor offenses that could potienally have enough traction to go to court if either of them have enough evidence. A judge would look at both of them like they were crazy to show up in circuit court over this. The best any of them could get is maybe Judge Judy or some small calims court. Small claims court might be the best choice for both of them if it is taken to the courtroom in the first place. Problem is I do not think neither of them have a solid case and it will most likely get thrown out. FYI going after somebody for slander is really hard to win period. Been there and seen it first person, it is rough no matter how bad it may seem. So lets sum this up : You are basically saying that you are not violating any laws by hacking someones twitter account and tweeting the private parts of someone to the public. You dont have to be a lawyer to assume its against the law, genius. Furthermore i m not quite sure its ok to post dick pics in public when underaged persons are able to view it, esp. in a country where a naked tit causes a national scandal. But then again i m thinking he shouldnt sue her, still you are a naive to think this was not illegal.
No, he's saying that Destiny has reasonable grounds to sue for slander but it'd be very hard to win the case if he can't prove that the dick pics directly caused a financial loss. Also, there is no need to act like a dick bk-.
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On August 31 2012 18:50 BlackPanther wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 18:33 Sokrates wrote:On August 31 2012 16:54 bK- wrote:On August 31 2012 16:03 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy? I am a third generation lawman pursueing a degree in crimal justice to become a lawyer. I can tell you that what transpired here was not against the law in any form per se. There are however some misdemeanor offenses that could potienally have enough traction to go to court if either of them have enough evidence. A judge would look at both of them like they were crazy to show up in circuit court over this. The best any of them could get is maybe Judge Judy or some small calims court. Small claims court might be the best choice for both of them if it is taken to the courtroom in the first place. Problem is I do not think neither of them have a solid case and it will most likely get thrown out. FYI going after somebody for slander is really hard to win period. Been there and seen it first person, it is rough no matter how bad it may seem. So lets sum this up : You are basically saying that you are not violating any laws by hacking someones twitter account and tweeting the private parts of someone to the public. You dont have to be a lawyer to assume its against the law, genius. Furthermore i m not quite sure its ok to post dick pics in public when underaged persons are able to view it, esp. in a country where a naked tit causes a national scandal. But then again i m thinking he shouldnt sue her, still you are a naive to think this was not illegal. No, he's saying that Destiny has reasonable grounds to sue for slander but it'd be very hard to win the case if he can't prove that the dick pics directly caused a financial loss. Also, there is no need to act like a dick bk-.
Can WE sue this girl for allowing Destiny's dick to stink up the internet?
I kid!
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On August 31 2012 18:33 Sokrates wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 16:54 bK- wrote:On August 31 2012 16:03 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy? I am a third generation lawman pursueing a degree in crimal justice to become a lawyer. I can tell you that what transpired here was not against the law in any form per se. There are however some misdemeanor offenses that could potienally have enough traction to go to court if either of them have enough evidence. A judge would look at both of them like they were crazy to show up in circuit court over this. The best any of them could get is maybe Judge Judy or some small calims court. Small claims court might be the best choice for both of them if it is taken to the courtroom in the first place. Problem is I do not think neither of them have a solid case and it will most likely get thrown out. FYI going after somebody for slander is really hard to win period. Been there and seen it first person, it is rough no matter how bad it may seem. So lets sum this up : You are basically saying that you are not violating any laws by hacking someones twitter account and tweeting the private parts of someone to the public. You dont have to be a lawyer to assume its against the law, genius. Furthermore i m not quite sure its ok to post dick pics in public when underaged persons are able to view it, esp. in a country where a naked tit causes a national scandal. But then again i m thinking he shouldnt sue her, still you are a naive to think this was not illegal.
thought the same..
how can posting private dick pics on a stolen twitter account not be against the law, wtf?
do this to any celebrity and you will get sued the shit out of your ass.
no need to prove a direct financial loss. you should get compensation for personal suffering.
also what she did can end s persons whole career. not in destiny's case for sure. but imagine you do this to a politician... he would never come back.
i wouldn't hire this lawyer ^^
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On August 31 2012 18:50 BlackPanther wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 18:33 Sokrates wrote:On August 31 2012 16:54 bK- wrote:On August 31 2012 16:03 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 15:50 lazyitachi wrote:On August 31 2012 15:43 redviper wrote:On August 31 2012 14:52 TheExile19 wrote:On August 31 2012 14:40 redviper wrote:
I can't understand how people can equate what destiny did to what she did. Destiny didn't violate any law, he simply passed a picture around. She broke the law. I am no lawyer but I hope destiny takes it as far as it needs to go to make her realize that breaking the law is wrong. Calling someone names, logos insulting someone's looks, these are things that are socially unacceptable. Posting personal pictures that destiny didn't give her is going over the line though. Accessing his email and twitter with the sole purpose of hurting him is even worse. Nail her to the wall destiny. nobody's equating much of anything except the hopeless pedants, both destiny and bluetea fucked each other over quite nicely. it's nice to hear two of the most popular misconceptions in the thread again, though: - destiny should sue! no, the legality is nebulous at best and if you really, truly want him to rebound from this and have even the slightest chance of seeing a team roster with his name on it again, this stupid sideshow has to end here without him pursuing it any further. - since bluetea gave her photos away, she signed away her right to be mad! well, no, there's a underwritten and assumed level of trust involved in such an act and anyone who's followed destiny for very long knows he interacted with bluetea on something approaching a friendly level, so even ignoring the massive sexism evident in the DAT SLUT AND HER SLUTTIN WAYS argument, she should have been something other than an object to him, a person with real emotions that deserved better than to be subjected to the ROOTcirclejerk. I also enjoy the idea that while bluetea had intent to harm destiny, destiny's seeming disregard for her in the first place is trumpeted as some sort of moral high ground; no, just because supreme intent to defame her isn't in evidence doesn't make him any less of a dipshit for going through with the photo spreading anyway. this is also why people read misogyny from the entire situation, because once you've eliminated that intent what reason are you left with for why he went through with it? dipshit or somewhat misogynistic dipshit, take your pick. Not she doesn't relinquish her right to the photos but destiny didn't post those pictures to the public. He posted them to his friends.. And the legality is not nebulous at all. At best she is responsible libel since she admitted the malicious intent. At worst she is committing computer fraud. I Blue tea so far hasn't been fucked at all by this incident, destiny on the other hand has been. It would be just and awesome if she ends up losing her financial aid because of this. Then they would have both fucked each other over. Nothing posted by her was false... so ... Libel? But you are not a lawyer Ok, and best case is that she is responsible for public disclosure of private facts, happy? I am a third generation lawman pursueing a degree in crimal justice to become a lawyer. I can tell you that what transpired here was not against the law in any form per se. There are however some misdemeanor offenses that could potienally have enough traction to go to court if either of them have enough evidence. A judge would look at both of them like they were crazy to show up in circuit court over this. The best any of them could get is maybe Judge Judy or some small calims court. Small claims court might be the best choice for both of them if it is taken to the courtroom in the first place. Problem is I do not think neither of them have a solid case and it will most likely get thrown out. FYI going after somebody for slander is really hard to win period. Been there and seen it first person, it is rough no matter how bad it may seem. So lets sum this up : You are basically saying that you are not violating any laws by hacking someones twitter account and tweeting the private parts of someone to the public. You dont have to be a lawyer to assume its against the law, genius. Furthermore i m not quite sure its ok to post dick pics in public when underaged persons are able to view it, esp. in a country where a naked tit causes a national scandal. But then again i m thinking he shouldnt sue her, still you are a naive to think this was not illegal. No, he's saying that Destiny has reasonable grounds to sue for slander but it'd be very hard to win the case if he can't prove that the dick pics directly caused a financial loss. Also, there is no need to act like a dick bk-.
First of all he said its "not against the law per se". Which is incorrect because it is against the law. How can you say it is not against the law if you hack a twitter account and post dick pictures in public?
Then again who said he will/could only sue her for financial loss?
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On August 31 2012 11:31 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 11:26 Lightspeaker wrote:
Seems like lots of people don't seem to understand how sponsorship works.
Destiny was on a team. That team had sponsors. Therefore Destiny was a representative of those sponsors. That is pretty much the entire point of it. It is honestly as simple as that. If the sponsors are not happy with how the people representing them act then they can just not sponsor anymore. Therefore you CANNOT just act however the hell you want unless the sponsor is happy for you to do so. When you accept sponsorship you are ALSO accepting the responsibility of being a good representative for your sponsor. Similarly when you sign up for a team you are accepting the same responsibility but for said team.
More to the point: hiding it away, which is something that Destiny fans seem to be literally constantly advocating, is probably the worst thing you can do because hiding scandals is a one-way ticket to permanently poisoning e-sports. If the community does not show it is self-policing then there is no way in hell most sponsors are going to risk getting caught up in some sort of hidden controversy which could blow up in their face.
You might not like all of that, Destiny sure as hell doesn't like that based on these constant controversies, but thats the way the world works. Don't like it? I'm sorry but tough; you just have to put up with it. The world isn't always nice or fair. And its not going to magically change just because you stamp your feet and yell loudly enough about being able to say what you want, when you want to.
And its not a witch-hunt to call someone out on something they've actually done. I mean come on...seriously... >_> Ok, that's evidently true considering that's pretty much what got Destiny the chop, people complaining that they were so 'offended' right? Let the advocates of proportionality have their say without making us out to be idealistic children. Maybe people will stop being idiotic and spend more time doing vaguely productive things with their time than complain about a streamer they don't like.
On your first point: I'm not sure if you're being deliberately silly or not there. People complaining were not yelling loudly and stamping their feet that they wanted change about the whole world. They were actually very precise about what they did and its because of that that something changed. They took what they felt were very real grievances (I'm not going to debate if they were or not) about a specific person who had done a specific thing (or several things) to somebody who could do something about it. And those people talked to others who made an emotionless business decision to cut him loose because they felt said person was a liability.
That is very different to demanding that the whole way sponsorship works and human nature works by yelling on a forum. If you can think of a way to get businesses to ignore complaints about who they sponsor then feel free to try; but I think you'll find you're fighting the whole concept of sponsorship as a business model. They cannot simply ignore the image people are bringing to their company through sponsorship deals and sponsorship is not a charity.
On the second I never said anything about "children" but I do feel people are being absurdly idealistic in here. You cannot and will not change society as a whole and frankly it is absolutely none of your business what people find offensive and complain about. They are free to spend every minute of every day sending complaints if they like. The question is how companies react to said complaints, if they are groundless or irrelevant they can ignore them, but if something HAS happened and they DO care about how they are being represented they take steps. As I think it was CatZ stated earlier in the thread sponsorship has been hard to come by because companies have walked away from them because of issues like this, because some companies will not tolerate this kind of attitude. And frankly I personally think that nobody has any right to demand that they start doing so, its their decision and their money to sponsor whom they wish.
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