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On August 31 2012 19:20 Stonedviper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 15:52 centinel4 wrote:
everyone is focusing on Destiny and the "ugly" girl. the real villain in this story is the as-s-ho-le that leaked the conversation to her. fkn betrayer. that is the one that destiny should go and punch in the face for being such a p-uss-y traitor.
I trash talk the whole time about girls. Girls do the same about guys. this scaled way out of proportion.
The Ahole that leaked the story is the only person with morals in this whole story...lol.
typically exact f***** up people like you are those who use words like "moral"
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On August 31 2012 18:26 tenacity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 18:17 Dirt McGirt wrote:On August 31 2012 15:52 centinel4 wrote:
everyone is focusing on Destiny and the "ugly" girl. the real villain in this story is the as-s-ho-le that leaked the conversation to her. fkn betrayer. that is the one that destiny should go and punch in the face for being such a p-uss-y traitor.
I trash talk the whole time about girls. Girls do the same about guys. this scaled way out of proportion.
either trolling or Tl:Dr thread. She had his login details and was snooping on private conversations. Nobody dobbed Destiny in as she had access to his skype conversations etc. Unclear if he actually sent her the dick pic too? could have lifted it from his online files? not sure about that or if it's been covered. He's right and I kinda agree with him. According to her reddit post which can be found in the OP someone leaked the skype conversation to her. So even though she had the login-information to his email account, she did not have access to his skype-acc when the conversation took place. "I'll come out and say this is Bluetea. I really have nothing to lose. Long story short, Steven leaked nude pictures of me to his Skype friends. He then joked about how "fucking hideous" my face is compared to my "beautiful body." They joked about how I look like Shrek. I do have a big nose, I guess. Someone who apparently was in the chat room emailed me from a gmail account consisting of a bunch of random numbers. It had the chatlog." My question still stands, who leaked it if only two friends took part? The answer might be no one. If she had his pw/s no one needed to leak anything since she could read the chats herself.
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On August 31 2012 20:10 Urasim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 20:05 Pusekatten wrote:On August 31 2012 19:59 Urasim wrote:On August 31 2012 19:39 ShatterStar wrote:On August 31 2012 19:32 Sokrates wrote:On August 31 2012 19:27 ShatterStar wrote:
Ah so in conclusion you are saying if a person doesnt have any financial loss by having his/her twitteraccount hacked and private pictures posted it is not against the law?
I llike how your conclusion ads an entire clause I didn't say. Anyway there is more you must consider. Suing someone isn't free, it requires the expense of time and money. If you aren't going to receive money from the other side (he'd have to prove a financial loss in order to do that) then you're just incurring an expense to get what? Maybe an injunction that says Bluetea can't post to your twitter anymore...a lot of good that does. Is it so hard to see that you cannot just simply hack someones twitter and post private picture/information to the public? It is not about what destiny gets out of it, it is mb simply that fact that bluetea could be in some serious trouble for what she did. You are basically saying that all the consequences someone faces for hacking other peoples private information is an injunction for not doing so anymore? So if i steal stuff from a shop all i get is an injunction to stop shoplifting?? :D No, we have different punishments for different types of crime. Disseminating information and theft are different crimes. The trouble Bluetea could be under would probably relate more to her use of the internet at her school. When someone sues for slander/libel/etc you get a different effect. If I tell you something in private, and then you later tell a lot of other people that you shouldn't of, you don't go to jail. I can however sue for slander, or libel depending. If Bluetea had gone into the twitter account (and it is important that it wasn't "hacked" if she had the information, she just did so without permission, hacking would cut harder against her) and defrauded Destiny by signing into contracts, or trying to pretend she was him, then he'd have a case for fraud. You can get jail time for hacking twitter... http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001-03-09-coolio.htmThat is just one chase where a kid thought it would be funny to put images of a drugged Donald duck on a anti-drug site and defacing some other images. If Bluetea DID actually HACK she can be in some serious trouble. There is always some confusion about the word "hack". Getting the password from Destiny is NOT hacking. Getting the password by looking over Destiny's shoulder is NOT hacking. Using a fake e-mail to trick Destiny in sending his password to her is NOT hacking. Using programs to break into twitter IS hacking. Also... Why is this thread still here and not locked? Almost every page is filled with garbage posts that are worse than the actually offense Destiny and Bluetea commited... I would expect more from teamliquid. Is this site turning into a playground for TMZ junkies? This sort of discussion should be kept at reddit where it belongs. She still changed the password and impersonated him... Which is a lighter sentence involving compensation and/or community service with no jail time. That's if he wants to press charges.
And what do you think a future employer will think when he finds out she took control over his skype/twitter, leaked sensitive information while impersonating him.
I would not give anyone who have done something like that a job where you have access to sensitive information and/or control off an account/system.
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On August 31 2012 20:19 Pusekatten wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 20:10 Urasim wrote:On August 31 2012 20:05 Pusekatten wrote:On August 31 2012 19:59 Urasim wrote:On August 31 2012 19:39 ShatterStar wrote:On August 31 2012 19:32 Sokrates wrote:On August 31 2012 19:27 ShatterStar wrote:
Ah so in conclusion you are saying if a person doesnt have any financial loss by having his/her twitteraccount hacked and private pictures posted it is not against the law?
I llike how your conclusion ads an entire clause I didn't say. Anyway there is more you must consider. Suing someone isn't free, it requires the expense of time and money. If you aren't going to receive money from the other side (he'd have to prove a financial loss in order to do that) then you're just incurring an expense to get what? Maybe an injunction that says Bluetea can't post to your twitter anymore...a lot of good that does. Is it so hard to see that you cannot just simply hack someones twitter and post private picture/information to the public? It is not about what destiny gets out of it, it is mb simply that fact that bluetea could be in some serious trouble for what she did. You are basically saying that all the consequences someone faces for hacking other peoples private information is an injunction for not doing so anymore? So if i steal stuff from a shop all i get is an injunction to stop shoplifting?? :D No, we have different punishments for different types of crime. Disseminating information and theft are different crimes. The trouble Bluetea could be under would probably relate more to her use of the internet at her school. When someone sues for slander/libel/etc you get a different effect. If I tell you something in private, and then you later tell a lot of other people that you shouldn't of, you don't go to jail. I can however sue for slander, or libel depending. If Bluetea had gone into the twitter account (and it is important that it wasn't "hacked" if she had the information, she just did so without permission, hacking would cut harder against her) and defrauded Destiny by signing into contracts, or trying to pretend she was him, then he'd have a case for fraud. You can get jail time for hacking twitter... http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001-03-09-coolio.htmThat is just one chase where a kid thought it would be funny to put images of a drugged Donald duck on a anti-drug site and defacing some other images. If Bluetea DID actually HACK she can be in some serious trouble. There is always some confusion about the word "hack". Getting the password from Destiny is NOT hacking. Getting the password by looking over Destiny's shoulder is NOT hacking. Using a fake e-mail to trick Destiny in sending his password to her is NOT hacking. Using programs to break into twitter IS hacking. Also... Why is this thread still here and not locked? Almost every page is filled with garbage posts that are worse than the actually offense Destiny and Bluetea commited... I would expect more from teamliquid. Is this site turning into a playground for TMZ junkies? This sort of discussion should be kept at reddit where it belongs. She still changed the password and impersonated him... Which is a lighter sentence involving compensation and/or community service with no jail time. That's if he wants to press charges. And what do you think a future employer will think when he finds out she took control over his skype/twitter, leaked sensitive information while impersonating him. I would not give anyone who have done something like that a job where you have access to sensitive information and/or control off an account/system.
As she is a student in the USA chances are, she wont get a job anyway 
Just Kidding of course.
Identity theft btw is a term you're all looking for.
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On August 31 2012 20:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 20:19 Pusekatten wrote:On August 31 2012 20:10 Urasim wrote:On August 31 2012 20:05 Pusekatten wrote:On August 31 2012 19:59 Urasim wrote:On August 31 2012 19:39 ShatterStar wrote:On August 31 2012 19:32 Sokrates wrote:On August 31 2012 19:27 ShatterStar wrote:
Ah so in conclusion you are saying if a person doesnt have any financial loss by having his/her twitteraccount hacked and private pictures posted it is not against the law?
I llike how your conclusion ads an entire clause I didn't say. Anyway there is more you must consider. Suing someone isn't free, it requires the expense of time and money. If you aren't going to receive money from the other side (he'd have to prove a financial loss in order to do that) then you're just incurring an expense to get what? Maybe an injunction that says Bluetea can't post to your twitter anymore...a lot of good that does. Is it so hard to see that you cannot just simply hack someones twitter and post private picture/information to the public? It is not about what destiny gets out of it, it is mb simply that fact that bluetea could be in some serious trouble for what she did. You are basically saying that all the consequences someone faces for hacking other peoples private information is an injunction for not doing so anymore? So if i steal stuff from a shop all i get is an injunction to stop shoplifting?? :D No, we have different punishments for different types of crime. Disseminating information and theft are different crimes. The trouble Bluetea could be under would probably relate more to her use of the internet at her school. When someone sues for slander/libel/etc you get a different effect. If I tell you something in private, and then you later tell a lot of other people that you shouldn't of, you don't go to jail. I can however sue for slander, or libel depending. If Bluetea had gone into the twitter account (and it is important that it wasn't "hacked" if she had the information, she just did so without permission, hacking would cut harder against her) and defrauded Destiny by signing into contracts, or trying to pretend she was him, then he'd have a case for fraud. You can get jail time for hacking twitter... http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001-03-09-coolio.htmThat is just one chase where a kid thought it would be funny to put images of a drugged Donald duck on a anti-drug site and defacing some other images. If Bluetea DID actually HACK she can be in some serious trouble. There is always some confusion about the word "hack". Getting the password from Destiny is NOT hacking. Getting the password by looking over Destiny's shoulder is NOT hacking. Using a fake e-mail to trick Destiny in sending his password to her is NOT hacking. Using programs to break into twitter IS hacking. Also... Why is this thread still here and not locked? Almost every page is filled with garbage posts that are worse than the actually offense Destiny and Bluetea commited... I would expect more from teamliquid. Is this site turning into a playground for TMZ junkies? This sort of discussion should be kept at reddit where it belongs. She still changed the password and impersonated him... Which is a lighter sentence involving compensation and/or community service with no jail time. That's if he wants to press charges. And what do you think a future employer will think when he finds out she took control over his skype/twitter, leaked sensitive information while impersonating him. I would not give anyone who have done something like that a job where you have access to sensitive information and/or control off an account/system. As she is a student in the USA chances are, she wont get a job anyway Just Kidding of course. Identity theft btw is a term you're all looking for.
Might just be me being old school, but I don't like using identity theft for this. I feel its more suited for something like when you take someone social security number etc.
But yes, I do agree, its a form of identity theft, and its only up to a judge/jury to decide if they think the same as well.
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How is ministry of win going to react towards this ? If it affects Root then surely it will affect them as well.
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On August 31 2012 21:09 Avean wrote:
How is ministry of win going to react towards this ? If it affects Root then surely it will affect them as well.
No? Destiny is paying loads of money to be there. It's like a hotel for gamers. Just because he has some bad pr, doesn't mean he won't be a client of MoW anymore.
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so wait, what is going on? Please dont engage in cyber bullying anyone and if pictures have been spread around just do the decent thing and don't look at them. Remember there are real people behind screens and how you would feel if thousands of strangers from all around the world started dicking you around...
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Lol at the people who think litigation is the only answer to this drama. That's fucking worse than the people emailing sponsors lol.
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And what do you think a future employer will think when he finds out she took control over his skype/twitter, leaked sensitive information while impersonating him.
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Well chances are that her future boss ain't a Destiny fan so he/she would likely think its funny as hell i know i do.
i don't care anything about Destiny or Girl in question but its funny as hell. Do you really think anyone who are not into the SC2 community care about this? they guy got outed and the girl punished him for it. she even gave him a chance to talk about it and he ignored her. then she owned him.
Btw this is not a defense of her actions but playing the blame game with the parties at hand is just stupid the game is already over and she won. take it as loss and move along and learn what you can from this.
that goes for all of you debating this as well the game is over analyze the correct moves to prevent this from happening to you and move on.
Sure its sad that anti-fans started emailing sponsors and what not, but he apparently got a lot of anti-fans who really wants him gone seems like they won as well.
The sponsor with the funny email response will prolly loose as well. The lawsuit thing was just stupid if you cant stand for what you say in an email don't write it. A disclaimer in the bottom of the letter in a response to a complaint will not save you from them sharing it and they sure as hell wont lose in a court of law.
The only player who didn't loose here was CatZ he was smart and cut his losses and came out much stronger since most will understand its fricking hard to sack a friend for something as stupid as this.
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Seems like ever since the orb incident, fans of team or just concerned people decided lets just email sponser's to get someone kicked off the team for doing "X" I honestly don't think this is the right response. We don't need to run to the sponsers, we should be able to police ourselves. With that said, I feel like root made the right call.
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I was thinking about this and I'm still not exactly what Destiny was kicked off Root for.
Was it because his dick hit the internet? Because he shared nude pics of that chick?
This stuff seems tame compared to other things he has done where people stood behind him much more firmly than this time.
I'm also fairly sure that being kicked off Root does zero to hurt him, and zero to help Root.
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Good luck, Destiny. Been a fan for awhile. I'm sure you'll be good.
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I don't really know either why he was kicked, but i think the main reason beyond the picture thing is that he was apparently wearing a ROOT team shirt when he took the picture. That is kinda hard to explain away to new sponsors when the anti-fans sends them the picture of destiny in all his glory.
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On August 31 2012 22:39 Zorkmid wrote:
I was thinking about this and I'm still not exactly what Destiny was kicked off Root for.
Was it because his dick hit the internet? Because he shared nude pics of that chick?
This stuff seems tame compared to other things he has done where people stood behind him much more firmly than this time.
I'm also fairly sure that being kicked off Root does zero to hurt him, and zero to help Root.
He was kicked because the sponsors didnt want to take any risks with the situation (they got negative feedbacks and such), which is understandable from a buisness point of view. Root was then forced by them to drop Destiny.
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never liked the kid or his attitude anyway
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On August 31 2012 22:53 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 22:39 Zorkmid wrote:
I was thinking about this and I'm still not exactly what Destiny was kicked off Root for.
Was it because his dick hit the internet? Because he shared nude pics of that chick?
This stuff seems tame compared to other things he has done where people stood behind him much more firmly than this time.
I'm also fairly sure that being kicked off Root does zero to hurt him, and zero to help Root.
He was kicked because the sponsors didnt want to take any risks with the situation (they got negative feedbacks and such), which is understandable from a buisness point of view. Root was then forced by them to drop Destiny.
Well duh, but what is the event that we're talking about?
Sponsors don't want personal chat logs of their players released. That's how 20-somethings talk, and what they talk about.
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On August 31 2012 23:02 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 22:53 Roggay wrote:On August 31 2012 22:39 Zorkmid wrote:
I was thinking about this and I'm still not exactly what Destiny was kicked off Root for.
Was it because his dick hit the internet? Because he shared nude pics of that chick?
This stuff seems tame compared to other things he has done where people stood behind him much more firmly than this time.
I'm also fairly sure that being kicked off Root does zero to hurt him, and zero to help Root.
He was kicked because the sponsors didnt want to take any risks with the situation (they got negative feedbacks and such), which is understandable from a buisness point of view. Root was then forced by them to drop Destiny. Well duh, but what is the event that we're talking about? Sponsors don't want personal chat logs of their players released. That's how 20-somethings talk, and what they talk about.
I dont think he was kicked for any specific action on his part, rather because he is a notorious drama magnet who gets into the kind of drama that could potentially scare off sponsors/develope a bad reputation for root. Destiny turned himself into a liability through the kind of behavior that most of us grew out of at around age 16-17 so he got the boot, thats all that happened.
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On August 31 2012 23:36 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 23:02 Zorkmid wrote:On August 31 2012 22:53 Roggay wrote:On August 31 2012 22:39 Zorkmid wrote:
I was thinking about this and I'm still not exactly what Destiny was kicked off Root for.
Was it because his dick hit the internet? Because he shared nude pics of that chick?
This stuff seems tame compared to other things he has done where people stood behind him much more firmly than this time.
I'm also fairly sure that being kicked off Root does zero to hurt him, and zero to help Root.
He was kicked because the sponsors didnt want to take any risks with the situation (they got negative feedbacks and such), which is understandable from a buisness point of view. Root was then forced by them to drop Destiny. Well duh, but what is the event that we're talking about? Sponsors don't want personal chat logs of their players released. That's how 20-somethings talk, and what they talk about. I dont think he was kicked for any specific action on his part, rather because he is a notorious drama magnet who gets into the kind of drama that could potentially scare off sponsors/develope a bad reputation for root. Destiny turned himself into a liability through the kind of behavior that most of us grew out of at around age 16-17 so he got the boot, thats all that happened.
That doesn't make sense either, unless there was a new sponsor that came on after Destiny got back on Root.
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On August 31 2012 23:43 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 23:36 PassiveAce wrote:On August 31 2012 23:02 Zorkmid wrote:On August 31 2012 22:53 Roggay wrote:On August 31 2012 22:39 Zorkmid wrote:
I was thinking about this and I'm still not exactly what Destiny was kicked off Root for.
Was it because his dick hit the internet? Because he shared nude pics of that chick?
This stuff seems tame compared to other things he has done where people stood behind him much more firmly than this time.
I'm also fairly sure that being kicked off Root does zero to hurt him, and zero to help Root.
He was kicked because the sponsors didnt want to take any risks with the situation (they got negative feedbacks and such), which is understandable from a buisness point of view. Root was then forced by them to drop Destiny. Well duh, but what is the event that we're talking about? Sponsors don't want personal chat logs of their players released. That's how 20-somethings talk, and what they talk about. I dont think he was kicked for any specific action on his part, rather because he is a notorious drama magnet who gets into the kind of drama that could potentially scare off sponsors/develope a bad reputation for root. Destiny turned himself into a liability through the kind of behavior that most of us grew out of at around age 16-17 so he got the boot, thats all that happened. That doesn't make sense either, unless there was a new sponsor that came on after Destiny got back on Root.
what do you mean? They just decided that enough was enough and he is hurting their image for fans and sponsors, why keep him on their payroll to attract negative attention?
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