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Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
August 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#41
I just dont get the hate over Moletrap, I think he is by FAAAAAAR a better caster than as an example Doa. He was a little nervous the first day, but who cares, rly. He'll get better with time.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#42
I love his casting and can't see the reason for the hate of his voice but I do totally agree with this:

On August 30 2012 03:50 bigtabs wrote:
I'm basing this on GOM and the recent OSL:

He needs to vastly improve his working knowledge of Starcraft 2. I feel I know more about it than he does and I've only been playing irregularly for 6 months and am a lowly silver leaguer. He's had 2 years as a professional caster. He should know a lot more than I do about the game. On that note, I think he should recieve some coaching in all the races and play them regularly. Even if his mechanics hold him in the lower leagues, he needs to understand the game at a higher level.


As soon as he grasps this he will be one of the greats in my eyes.
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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:08:38
August 29 2012 20:55 GMT
#43
He often (multiple times a game) contradicts himself or what is happening on the screen. I'm very obsessed with logic, so maybe this affects me a lot more than other viewers. His play-by-play is pretty average. However, he is bad at introducing players, occasionally showing his lack of enthusiasm very openly. His analysis is just plain wrong most of the time, but I guess his role will be the play-by-play part in the future.

I voted "I don't like his casting at all!"


edit: exaggeration
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
August 29 2012 21:01 GMT
#44
Just like not everyone can become a professional player, not everyone can become a great caster. sure any joe can start casting and with practice and dedication become better, but i just dont think moletrap is one of them.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 29 2012 21:01 GMT
#45
he sidetracks too much, yes an interesting story is great during the first 2 minutes but several stories per game is too much. he needs to focus more on the game itself.

he needs to improve his game knowledge. this is hard to do as you need to be able to play at a fairly high level to really be an insightful analytical caster like Artosis/dApollo, but Moletrap needs to work on that if he is going to solo-casting for OGN.

other than those he is just like any other casters.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:03:56
August 29 2012 21:01 GMT
#46
His ability to talk about the game and tell what's happening in an at least semi-interesting manner is good. His analysis is terrible.

Stop trying to analyze the game and everyone will be much happier. I really do want to see moletrap succeed at OGN. Grubby is the perfect co-caster to work with him. It's only temporary, but it will do for now.


On August 30 2012 05:49 Targe wrote:
I love his casting and can't see the reason for the hate of his voice but I do totally agree with this:

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 03:50 bigtabs wrote:
I'm basing this on GOM and the recent OSL:

He needs to vastly improve his working knowledge of Starcraft 2. I feel I know more about it than he does and I've only been playing irregularly for 6 months and am a lowly silver leaguer. He's had 2 years as a professional caster. He should know a lot more than I do about the game. On that note, I think he should recieve some coaching in all the races and play them regularly. Even if his mechanics hold him in the lower leagues, he needs to understand the game at a higher level.


As soon as he grasps this he will be one of the greats in my eyes.


That's a reasonable point of view if moletrap hasn't already been casting SC2 forever now. He doesn't need to grasp the game better, he just needs to stop trying to be that guy who knows everything about the game.
themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
August 29 2012 21:10 GMT
#47
oh look a moletrap hate thread, never seen one of those.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
August 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#48
On August 30 2012 05:18 cosmo.6792 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
It's misguided to ask casters like Moletrap and Totalbiscuit to raise their high-level knowledge of the game. These guys are not GM level players. They never will be. Consequently, they will NEVER become good analysts. Trying to shoehorn them into the "analyst" role is a recipe for disaster. The only thing worse than a caster that offers no analysis, is a caster that offers wrong analysis.

Moletrap (like Totalbiscuit) is at his best working as a color commentator. Provide an exciting play-by-play call on what's happening on-screen and on the mini-map. Don't overstep their bounds by trying to "analyze" the game. Leave that to the co-caster, who SHOULD be an analyst. The analyst should be a pro gamer with deep knowledge of the game, someone like Grubby or IdrA or Artosis.

Unfortunately, most people in these forums don't seem to understand that color commentators are necessary in this business. They all just want a bunch of analysts droning on and on about "smart stuff". And while that may sound exciting for hardcore SC2 buffs, for the casual viewers too much analysis becomes a bore. There's a good reason why football and basketball games are almost always cast by a color commentator AND an analyst.

Guys like Moletrap and Totalbiscuit are terrific, exciting color commentators. They shouldn't even try "analyzing" games. Leave that to an analytic co-caster.

I think TB is a great caster and I completely agree with everything in your posts, except for the parts where it said "Moletrap", unfortunately. I just tuned in to the Korean OSL stream because I didn't feel like he was saying anything worth listening to.
TB can make educated guesses about the players' intentions based on his own knowledge and from what he's gathered from their playstyle, while still leaving the more indepth stuff to the analytical caster. Moletrap's lack of insight really shows with the constant wrong calls. A good caster doesn't get hyped up about something and just go "Oh nevermind" mid-sentence because he realizes it was nothing after all.
I also feel he doesn't have the voice to be a pbp caster. I lack the language skills to describe it, but I'm sure you get the idea. Not raising his voice too much like in the Jangbi v Fantasy finals has made him muchmore pleasant to listen to.

All in all, his casting isn't killing Esports, but there's much to improve on.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#49
Oh noes, can't believe that the OP that is not the pertaining man himself started this thread. If I'm Moletrap, my heart would be hurting inside and out after reading upon some of the post. I get where some of them would come from but this is a bit too cruel and cold-blooded attempt to depreciate the man.

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Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
August 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#50
I don't mind him casting, he seems like a nice guy and I'm a bit surprised by all the efforts of hate people decide to put onto him. As already been said however:

- Improve the game knowledge! Although it's ok to make mistakes the "2/2 is underway for the terran, he's building the armory now for upgrades on vikings to kill the colossus faster" was just wrong (he wasn't getting 2/2 he needed the armory for it, although viking upgrades are realistic thereafter ofcourse).

That's it really improve the game knowledge, experienced SC viewers will see 90% of the tiny mistakes!
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#51
i feel like ppl just hop on a bandwagon of hating on moletrap hes not my favorite but hes more than fine
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 29 2012 21:20 GMT
#52
He's been pretty good so far, needs an analyst which he is shortly getting, hold the pitchforks until Grubtrap sucks (which hopefully it never will).
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
August 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#53
I don't really watch sc2 anymore(apart from streams sometimes) but I remember Moletrap was pretty good, sometimes not controlling his voice and occasionally interrupting his fellow co-caster, but apart from that it was really good.
oh, hai
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:33:09
August 29 2012 21:32 GMT
#54
He makes to much mistakes as a caster...( maby he is blind or dunno what , and its not agressive attack , he simple cant see numbers of supply , today he mistaken supply of players like 5 times. And many many mistakes like this. He dont know Sc2 pro gamers results. His voice sounds bored when he cast..and many many more. I simple dont like his casting.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 29 2012 21:35 GMT
#55
One thing Moletrap can do is know his limits. That means letting the other casters get their fair share of speaking time, and not breaking the decibel barrier when he gets excited. He also tends to quit on some games too early.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
August 29 2012 21:36 GMT
#56
Hayders gonna hayte.

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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 29 2012 21:41 GMT
#57
On August 30 2012 06:32 pallad wrote:
He makes to much mistakes as a caster...( maby he is blind or dunno what , and its not agressive attack , he simple cant see numbers of supply , today he mistaken supply of players like 5 times. And many many mistakes like this. He dont know Sc2 pro gamers results. His voice sounds bored when he cast..and many many more. I simple dont like his casting.

He had a low quality stream apparently.. Let the guy settle in. He can be entertaining believe it or not.. Miss his old bw stuff
Jaedong.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#58
I think he has been great so far
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Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 29 2012 21:45 GMT
#59
I learned that I can queue upgrades from Moletrap.
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bigtabs
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany51 Posts
August 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#60
On August 30 2012 04:14 Maluk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 03:50 bigtabs wrote:
I feel I know more about it than he does and I've only been playing irregularly for 6 months and am a lowly silver leaguer.

Then you do not know as much as he does.


On the surface of it, that would be fair to say. Yet he says things I know not to be true, even with my limited knowledge. That's the point.
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