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Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
September 02 2012 13:52 GMT
#181
I know he has lots of haters and I'm not a massive fan of his but I think he gets a lot of flak undeservedly. He's definitely not the greatest caster out there but I just don't see how people can make him out to be that bad. My vote is that his casting is average now and he has to improve, one thing for sure is that he needs to improve his knowledge of sc2, I find some of the things that he says are not exactly right and unlike other top casters his insights are not up to a certain level yet.
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
September 02 2012 14:01 GMT
#182
On September 02 2012 22:52 Khai wrote:
I know he has lots of haters and I'm not a massive fan of his but I think he gets a lot of flak undeservedly. He's definitely not the greatest caster out there but I just don't see how people can make him out to be that bad. My vote is that his casting is average now and he has to improve, one thing for sure is that he needs to improve his knowledge of sc2, I find some of the things that he says are not exactly right and unlike other top casters his insights are not up to a certain level yet.


He casts LoL as well, his SC2 analysis will never be on par with casters who focus purely on SC2.
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
September 02 2012 14:16 GMT
#183
I thought Moletrap was great when paired with DOA when he first went to Korea.

But over time his casting has deteriorated significantly. I think maybe he just got burnt out on the game. My best advice would be to take a vacation or something, and seriously consider if he wants to continue this as a career. His youtube casts were great back in the day, but nowadays he seems so exhausted all the time. And he makes a lot of mistakes in his casts because of it.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 02 2012 14:18 GMT
#184
hes massively overhated imho, hes a decent caster, not 1 of the best but good enough to be an official OSL caster
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RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
September 02 2012 14:20 GMT
#185
On August 31 2012 22:41 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
to be fair, moletrap is in a shitty situation having to solo cast, and the problems with the stream probably caused a lot of negativity which people direct towards moletrap. I'm reserving judgement until he casts with grubby.

Thing is, Moletrap has always done much better in a solo cast environment than a dual caster environment. He's said himself that he is much more comfortable solo casting than dual casting.

I think the only caster I've seen synergize with Moletrap well is Doa.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 02 2012 14:27 GMT
#186
Id say the biggest thing is being more positive! Hype up the good thing players do, don't nitpick mistakes, say "he has to play really good/micro well/whatever" instead of "he has no chance anymore". If someone is behind, dont say their macro is lacking but that player B's harass and pressure forced his pressure away, those kind of things. Make things more exciting and hyped!
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
September 02 2012 14:31 GMT
#187
On September 02 2012 23:18 X3GoldDot wrote:
hes massively overhated imho, hes a decent caster, not 1 of the best but good enough to be an official OSL caster


That's where I disagree. I think you need to be one of the best to be an official OSL caster. Thank goodness Grubby is headed out.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
September 02 2012 14:37 GMT
#188
I'm really shocked at the poll results. Moletrap was one of the most loved casters in Brood War, I'm not sure whether it's the community which has changed or his casting. He seems the exact same thinking on his casting before and after.
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revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 02 2012 14:42 GMT
#189
I was just rewatching Korean Air S2 OSL finals cast by moletrap and someone else that I don't remember (though also a good caster) and I really liked moletrap in that one. He was very knowledgeable about BW, I liked that cast.
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
September 02 2012 14:47 GMT
#190
On September 02 2012 23:18 X3GoldDot wrote:
not 1 of the best but good enough to be an official OSL caster


You should think about what you just wrote a little more.

The OSL is such a big deal we should ideally have nothing but the best casting it.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
September 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#191
On September 02 2012 23:47 Agnosthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 23:18 X3GoldDot wrote:
not 1 of the best but good enough to be an official OSL caster


You should think about what you just wrote a little more.

The OSL is such a big deal we should ideally have nothing but the best casting it.


The trouble is that there isn't much of 'the best' to choose from. Tastosis is with GOM and that isn't going to change, and there are very few english casters who will dedicate their lives and go to Korea to cast - it is a huge commitment. Given these circumstances Moletrap is the natural choice. ++++Grubby is coming and he is good man
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 02 2012 22:56 GMT
#192
On September 02 2012 23:37 Phayze wrote:
I'm really shocked at the poll results. Moletrap was one of the most loved casters in Brood War, I'm not sure whether it's the community which has changed or his casting. He seems the exact same thinking on his casting before and after.


He was really good at BW.

Also here's Moletrap and Klazart casting that infamous MSL Flash vs Jaedong Finals:


(Also Moletrap's thought on Jaedong given the win at around 24 minutes and 30 seconds. Basically he understands and makes the point it would have been unfair to Jaedong too if they did a rematch [in any case, it's a lose lose all around as it's hard to make the right calls].)

As you can see in the video (they start talking about the game instead of the players a minute in), Moletrap is much better in BW than in SC2 (especially with co casting).

Moletrap was good in BW. He knew all the players, he knew most of the strategies, he basically knew most of the stuff needed to cast BW.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 23:27:23
September 02 2012 23:25 GMT
#193
I've only really watched him cast with Doa when he went over early in the GSL, but I did enjoy Moletrap casting during the GSL. I found him informative and I liked his voice.

That said I hate when people talk over each other, and Moletrap had tendency to do that. It isn't nearly as bad as Painuser, but he had tendency to do so.
HunterK
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina68 Posts
September 03 2012 01:23 GMT
#194
He should be casting Proleague instead of OSL
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
September 03 2012 04:24 GMT
#195
On September 03 2012 07:56 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 23:37 Phayze wrote:
I'm really shocked at the poll results. Moletrap was one of the most loved casters in Brood War, I'm not sure whether it's the community which has changed or his casting. He seems the exact same thinking on his casting before and after.


He was really good at BW.

Also here's Moletrap and Klazart casting that infamous MSL Flash vs Jaedong Finals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1X32S-pWwY

(Also Moletrap's thought on Jaedong given the win at around 24 minutes and 30 seconds. Basically he understands and makes the point it would have been unfair to Jaedong too if they did a rematch [in any case, it's a lose lose all around as it's hard to make the right calls].)

As you can see in the video (they start talking about the game instead of the players a minute in), Moletrap is much better in BW than in SC2 (especially with co casting).

Moletrap was good in BW. He knew all the players, he knew most of the strategies, he basically knew most of the stuff needed to cast BW.



its quite amazing how much much better moletrap is in broodwar, if he would be this good in sc2 no one would complain except very few. Sadly he maybe just lacks the passion for sc2 idk.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
September 03 2012 04:32 GMT
#196
I agree that Moletrap is way better at casting BW than SC2. I listened to him cast the Jangbi vs. Fantasy finals and I really enjoyed his casting. In SC2 though, he just has a lot of mis-calls and just seems to lack overall SC2 knowledge. He also just makes a lot of silly mistakes when casting, like greatly miscounting workers lost, for example.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 03 2012 16:19 GMT
#197
On September 03 2012 13:24 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 07:56 Goldfish wrote:
On September 02 2012 23:37 Phayze wrote:
I'm really shocked at the poll results. Moletrap was one of the most loved casters in Brood War, I'm not sure whether it's the community which has changed or his casting. He seems the exact same thinking on his casting before and after.


He was really good at BW.

Also here's Moletrap and Klazart casting that infamous MSL Flash vs Jaedong Finals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1X32S-pWwY

(Also Moletrap's thought on Jaedong given the win at around 24 minutes and 30 seconds. Basically he understands and makes the point it would have been unfair to Jaedong too if they did a rematch [in any case, it's a lose lose all around as it's hard to make the right calls].)

As you can see in the video (they start talking about the game instead of the players a minute in), Moletrap is much better in BW than in SC2 (especially with co casting).

Moletrap was good in BW. He knew all the players, he knew most of the strategies, he basically knew most of the stuff needed to cast BW.



its quite amazing how much much better moletrap is in broodwar, if he would be this good in sc2 no one would complain except very few. Sadly he maybe just lacks the passion for sc2 idk.


Yeah. I wonder if he realizes it and I hope someone can get him back to BW level of casting.

One major difference is that in BW, Moletrap definitely paid attention to every detail and basically memorized all the builds everyone used. In SC2, he doesn't do this as often. I wonder why's that? I definitely hope he regains his passion for SC.

In BW, you can tell he was passionate for the game. In SC2, it doesn't seem he's as interested which is disappointing.
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snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
September 04 2012 12:11 GMT
#198
epic cutting off grubby from using battlecruiser voice in the MVP vs Baby OSL match... twice.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Monasou
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States218 Posts
September 04 2012 14:09 GMT
#199
Like him or not. He is one tough son of a bitch. With the hate the kelly had, and some more, hes' gone from castig GOM, to league of legends now to OLS.

Good for you Moletrap. If you read this, don't you ever stop for one minute.
353 Monasou ♥
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
September 04 2012 14:19 GMT
#200
On August 30 2012 05:12 cari-kira wrote:
My personal thoughts:
Only noobs bash casters. The others see for themselves what happens in a game.
Even more, when theres a dedicated observer.
So for me the whole "casters need skill"-discussion is absolutely useless.
And everyone who "hates" a specific caster just tells me that his opinion is worthless.


+1


Casters need to be good at casting and love it. I really don;t think a high level of skill is required at the game. Diamond / masters should be enough.




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