[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 17

On August 25 2012 23:08 FeyFey wrote:
Oh thanks for gathering the things together, glad to know esf knows what they are doing, but it is really sad for GOM. On the other hand without esf ... I remember what happened to goms bw broadcast. Guess we won't be seeing kespa players in HotS, doubt they get the license, but will be good for me. I will still be able to see WoL and the Carrier :p.

On August 25 2012 23:09 Crow! wrote:
Kespa decided to skip SC2 when it was still young and a potentially risky switch, instead letting GOM pick up the exclusive contract. IMO they should just accept that they are not and will never be the authority for this game, because someone else stepped up to the plate when they didn't years ago.

On August 25 2012 23:09 boag11 wrote:
All Kespa have to do to save OS2L is to allow Kespa players the option to participate in GSL, as well as an agreement with all involved that that option will not be taken away. Kespa should never of taken away the option for players to play in non Kespa affiliated leagues. Whether you believe ESF and or Kespa is in the wrong, it is hard to deny that all that needs to be done is for Kespa to allow all Kespa players the option to participate in other Tournaments. It should be up to the coaches to decide whether it is beneficial for a player to play in GSL qualifiers or not.

On August 25 2012 23:10 floor exercise wrote:

This is some wild revisionist history. A huge legal battle culminating in someone else getting exclusive broadcast rights is not "deciding to skip SC2"

Reading some of the things on this forum it's like you guys were on a different planet from 2010-2012.

On August 25 2012 23:02 JiPrime wrote:

If there's no other growth options for SC2 scene, then you're absolutely correct.
But there's still plenty of room to stretch in the foreign market.
I don't know why you people deem Korean market so important.
It's a nice bonus to have, sure, but not important enough to jeopardize what GSL, IPL, MLG, NASL, and others have built so far with current Korean talent pool, which is predominantly still part of ESF.
Koreans will come around when the foreigner scene grows beyond what KeSPA accomplished back in BW era.

On August 25 2012 23:12 Belisarius wrote:
That's a shame. I agreed with their position originally, but this seems like a little too much.

They got an immediate response out of KeSPA and got a commitment to the next GSL. That was a win, and quite a big one. Personally, I think it should have ended there. GSL 6+ are quite some time away. I wouldn't even expect KeSPA to commit their players that far ahead.

On August 25 2012 23:06 revy wrote:
To be honest when I heard about kespa players not playing GSL4 it made a bunch of sense to me, they're still playing two games, and they've only been playing SC2 for a few months.

Kespa hasn't been unreasonable so far in SC2, they are signing deals with tournaments, but they're making sure to do it in advance. Maybe kespa and GOM should've started talks earlier.

On August 25 2012 23:14 aintz wrote:
i think kespas response was reasonable enough. missing 1 gsl isnt even bad for its players, gives them more time to practise the game.

On August 25 2012 23:12 Belisarius wrote:
That's a shame. I agreed with their position originally, but this seems like a little too much.

They got an immediate response out of KeSPA and got a commitment to the next GSL. That was a win, and quite a big one. Personally, I think it should have ended there. GSL 6+ are quite some time away. I wouldn't even expect KeSPA to commit their players that far ahead.

On August 25 2012 23:19 Derrida wrote:
Sorry about the stupid question, but what authority does ESF have over players? Is it like a union of some sorts?

On August 25 2012 23:15 achan1058 wrote:

On on this. I suspect Blizz might have a hand in a few things. They don't want either GOM nor KeSPA to have too much power. They also want to sell more HotS. Blizz would have benefitted immensely if everything panned out well.

On August 25 2012 23:19 achan1058 wrote:

Yes. ESF is the player's union.

On August 25 2012 23:19 Derrida wrote:
Sorry about the stupid question, but What authority does ESF have over players? Is it like a union of some sorts?

On August 25 2012 23:19 achan1058 wrote:

Yes. ESF is the player's union.

On August 25 2012 23:21 BgSBendeR wrote:
I think the eSF guys are also being dicks. No one forced them to play in the OSL Prelims or take the seeds. They chose to do so on their own. Now that everything is scheduled, they decide to back out simply because KeSPA who told GOMTV in advance(Before prelims) that they won't be participating in upcoming GSL due to scheduling conflict. Had Kespa gone through the prelims then backed out, it would be different..