EPTTL site have nothing to do with it, it's just a news / forums site.
What the actual team decide actually matters some, but right now they are not affected yet.
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
TL site have nothing to do with it, it's just a news / forums site. What the actual team decide actually matters some, but right now they are not affected yet. | ||
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YyapSsap
New Zealand1511 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:25 Yello wrote: Can anyone translate some Korean Netizen reactions please? Its quite nasty  | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:25 Yello wrote: Can anyone translate some Korean Netizen reactions please? Use google translation lol... best entertainment in a shitty day. | ||
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phoenixfeather95
665 Posts
Was just curious. No 'evil' intent in mind. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:18 howLiN wrote: While I agree with their reasons, I think it's a very disproportionate reaction and one that has much bigger consequences than to simply not have KeSPA players play in Code A qualifiers. If KeSPA gave a better reason (they were pulling the scheduling conflict card which doesn't work "and" doesn't make sense considering it was player/team choice) "or" said they let their players participate in the next season (which they did not), then I could see this being unreasonable. However, it seemed like KeSPA was being a bully and attempted to kill off GOM with this. I made a big post before but part of the reason I watch and support eSports is because of the positive atmosphere from not only from most of the players but from tournament organizers as well. Something like this easily puts me off from supporting them (I can imagine others agree as well - For those in Korea, they'll just watch kpop instead). There has already been on site with confirmed negative reasons from netizens in Korea to KeSPA. Does KeSPA have a monopoly over LoL content in Korea? If not, then it's also likely they can't just back down and switch to LoL either. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:23 phoenixfeather95 wrote: Also what is TL's stance on this (the website, not the community)? Will they start to not 'feature' OSLs and stuff? Liquid will want to remain disconnected and objective. Even in the worst case scenario, I assume that articles etc will still be made as if nothing had happened. | ||
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:16 Goldfish wrote: Well right now it really depends on Koreans. As shown in BW, RTS games on TV are declining in popularity (sponsors losing interest, viewers declining). With this drama (which even most Koreans are against KeSPA too apparently), KeSPA has a good chance of being boycott by many (and instead, everyone will start watching more kpop). As for LoL? Is KeSPA the only one exclusively holding LoL tournaments in Korea? Yes they are but they have no control over the teams unlike in bw. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
It is especially sad to miss opportunities for more cross GSL-Kespa games in this period, because this is probably the best time for such games. Supposedly, the Kespa players at some point could surpass the GSL players in skill so much, that such cross games would not even be that entertaining anymore, but now, exactly now, they are great fun to watch. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:13 ragz_gt wrote: OSL is part of KeSPA, they sit on KeSPA board. They could break loose from KeSPA but it's HIGHLY unlikely. Can you show which position OGN occupy? ![[image loading]](https://www.e-sports.or.kr/about/Eng/og_img02.gif) | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
Kespa tries to keep the market value of its players high because they are the only reason Kespa is so mighty. If BW players just couldnt adapt, the interest in these players to play SC2 would drop and Kespa just hadnt that much of a good position against ESF any more. Keep in mind that these are two rivaling organisations. The thing for Kespa is that their strong position can only be kept if their players can fare well against the GSL players. If there is no competition between those two camps, Kespa players are suddenly not that interesting any more... personally, I didn't mind much that Kespa withdrew from the next GSL qualifiers. I would rather see the fully-SC2-trained now-BW-pros swarm and conquer the qualifiers than see them lose in 2nd round now. GSL players show awesome games themselves, it's still entertaining and Kespa can wait a little longer | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
On topic: Yeah, I don't really see KeSPA playing fair here. For the sake of athletic competition, enter the tournament, please. We've already seen it can't possibly be too terrible. | ||
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rogscorp
Korea (South)13 Posts
So I hope other fans to understand this decision and support ESF players. Seriously, they have entertained for two years. We can do this for them. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
They are ON the board of directors (along with all the sponsors/owners to teams) quote FXOBoSs: 1) OGN and KESPA are pretty much the same thing. Their interests are extremely common and 1 company is the common party. http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/30093362883/sharpen-the-pitchforks-light-the-torches-kespa-is | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4561 Posts
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:31 FataLe wrote: could anyone give me a little background info? why was msl able to survive in bw but gomtv classic wasn't? what am i missing. MSL was also on part of KeSPA board, GOM was not. | ||
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
Well according to what he wrote it would be on the board of directors obviously. | ||
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:29 schaf wrote:personally, I didn't mind much that Kespa withdrew from the next GSL qualifiers. I would rather see the fully-SC2-trained now-BW-pros swarm and conquer the qualifiers than see them lose in 2nd round now. GSL players show awesome games themselves, it's still entertaining and Kespa can wait a little longer took mvp 2 months to get skill in sc2 and 3 months to win a championship, some kespa players have been playing 6months+ so the whole fully trained bw pros doesn't really hold up anymore and the tip top sc2 kespa players almost don't play bw anyway. | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
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