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kokomojowelieole
Profile Joined August 2012
United States99 Posts
August 23 2012 09:58 GMT
#221
I agree with others. The best word to describe the situation is LAME
"If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject." Richard Dawkins
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 23 2012 09:59 GMT
#222
That's unfortunate. Once they participate regularly with GOM players we can finally, hopefully get past the elephant metaphor in terms of understanding and anticipating the games.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 23 2012 09:59 GMT
#223
On August 23 2012 18:55 Talin wrote:
That seems like a really dodgy press release with a dodgy tone. It's almost as if GOM is intentionally trying to stir up anger/pressure at Kespa. Oh wait, that's exactly what it is.

As for kespa making the decision, people need to understand that this is perfectly normal. Most importantly, a Kespa decision means that it's a joint team decision.

While I'm sure that there are individual players who would like to compete in the GSL, their time and effort playing Starcraft is committed entirely to their teams. And these are not western teams that are more like proxy sponsors than anything else - there is a fixed structure in how the players train, how much they train and what they train for. They don't get to just do whatever they feel like with their time.

In a nutshell, the teams decide what they want to get involved in (which was the case here). The actual players and coaching staff are only members of the team, they're not individual entities.


So what you are saying is because already 32 players of all the teams together participate in the OSL, the other remaining players do not get to participate in any participate in any individual league at all? Sounds legit.
All irony aside, whoever made the decision does not make the decision better for the players.
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 10:00:32
August 23 2012 09:59 GMT
#224
I wanted to try and watch a Kespa tournament once, but I had to watch a low resolution korean language stream casted by a 3rd party amateur caster. That combined with Kespas attitude means I will stand by GOM on this one.

I will gladly give my money to GOM and MLG.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 10:00:31
August 23 2012 10:00 GMT
#225
Looks like FBH doesn't like what happened too (assuming it is about this story):

가슴 아프다.

"Heartbreaking"

via FBH's twitter
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 23 2012 10:00 GMT
#226
On August 23 2012 18:58 Finrod1 wrote:
same kespa shit. different year.

Reminded me of dinner for one.
Same procedure as last Starcraft?
- Same procedure as every Starcraft!
This is our town, scrub
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
August 23 2012 10:00 GMT
#227
I just had a weird idea... maybe KeSPA and GOM will try to keep themselves somewhat separate for a while to try to keep this rivalry going, with only a few events featuring players from both. Sort of like the two baseball leagues in the US... not saying if this would be a good thing or a bad thing, it was just an idea...
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
August 23 2012 10:02 GMT
#228
On August 23 2012 19:00 bduddy wrote:
I just had a weird idea... maybe KeSPA and GOM will try to keep themselves somewhat separate for a while to try to keep this rivalry going, with only a few events featuring players from both. Sort of like the two baseball leagues in the US... not saying if this would be a good thing or a bad thing, it was just an idea...


Yeah but the thing is, it would be like MLB vs some local community league. That's how bigger KeSPA is than GOM.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 23 2012 10:02 GMT
#229
On August 23 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Looks like FBH doesn't like what happened too (assuming it is about this story):

가슴 아프다.

"Heartbreaking"

via FBH's twitter


Eh, more likely about Violet.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 23 2012 10:02 GMT
#230
On August 23 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Looks like FBH doesn't like what happened too (assuming it is about this story):

가슴 아프다.

"Heartbreaking"

via FBH's twitter


that might be about Violet actually
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
August 23 2012 10:02 GMT
#231
On August 23 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Looks like FBH doesn't like what happened too (assuming it is about this story):

가슴 아프다.

"Heartbreaking"

via FBH's twitter


That's probably refering to Violet.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 23 2012 10:03 GMT
#232
KeSPA seem to be up to something imo.

Not attending MLG, now GSL too

Are they going to try and monopolise SC2 like they did BW, but have to come up with the master plan in order to do it? (considering SC2 is more established )

Or is it just their players really need the practice before getting their face smashed in sc2. (Perhaps the players are requesting it? which is unlikely)

What busy schedule are they having to keep to? I mean, really? Doesnt seem like they have much going on to me?

Well..lets hope it all smooths out eventually
Useless wet fish.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
August 23 2012 10:03 GMT
#233
On August 23 2012 19:02 Odoakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Looks like FBH doesn't like what happened too (assuming it is about this story):

가슴 아프다.

"Heartbreaking"

via FBH's twitter


That's probably refering to Violet.


Oh right, forgot about Violet.

Goddammit, bad news happening one after the other.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 10:04:30
August 23 2012 10:03 GMT
#234
On August 23 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Looks like FBH doesn't like what happened too (assuming it is about this story):

가슴 아프다.

"Heartbreaking"

via FBH's twitter


Well, as much as I am against this decision, FBH always had a little troll inside of him, so I wouldn't take everything he says literally.

edit: nvm, violet
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 23 2012 10:04 GMT
#235
On August 23 2012 18:59 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 18:55 Talin wrote:
That seems like a really dodgy press release with a dodgy tone. It's almost as if GOM is intentionally trying to stir up anger/pressure at Kespa. Oh wait, that's exactly what it is.

As for kespa making the decision, people need to understand that this is perfectly normal. Most importantly, a Kespa decision means that it's a joint team decision.

While I'm sure that there are individual players who would like to compete in the GSL, their time and effort playing Starcraft is committed entirely to their teams. And these are not western teams that are more like proxy sponsors than anything else - there is a fixed structure in how the players train, how much they train and what they train for. They don't get to just do whatever they feel like with their time.

In a nutshell, the teams decide what they want to get involved in (which was the case here). The actual players and coaching staff are only members of the team, they're not individual entities.


So what you are saying is because already 32 players of all the teams together participate in the OSL, the other remaining players do not get to participate in any participate in any individual league at all? Sounds legit.
All irony aside, whoever made the decision does not make the decision better for the players.


I have NO idea what you're saying you're thinking I'm saying as that sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. -_-

The remaining players spend their time preparing for Proleague and being practice partners for players who are in the OSL, then preparing for the next qualifiers etc. There is plenty for them to do with their time, if that was your concern.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 23 2012 10:04 GMT
#236
On August 23 2012 19:02 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 19:00 bduddy wrote:
I just had a weird idea... maybe KeSPA and GOM will try to keep themselves somewhat separate for a while to try to keep this rivalry going, with only a few events featuring players from both. Sort of like the two baseball leagues in the US... not saying if this would be a good thing or a bad thing, it was just an idea...


Yeah but the thing is, it would be like MLB vs some local community league. That's how bigger KeSPA is than GOM.


That may be, but the community league has the support of a huge section of the foreign audience. Now, that may not mean shit to KeSPa, but it does mean something in your analogy I think.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 23 2012 10:04 GMT
#237
What a douche move and i honestly feel sad for GOM.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 23 2012 10:06 GMT
#238
I wanted JD to participate. T_T

They think they will catch up by not participating? I don't really understand this decision. We have seen the KeSPA players compete with Code S players, and have beaten Code A players easily, it would have made for excellent viewing to see them progress in Code A. It is the best league in the world, if they think by not letting them compete will make the OSL more prestigious because they have both sets of players, they are mistaken.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 10:08:20
August 23 2012 10:06 GMT
#239
On August 23 2012 19:04 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 18:59 JustPassingBy wrote:
On August 23 2012 18:55 Talin wrote:
That seems like a really dodgy press release with a dodgy tone. It's almost as if GOM is intentionally trying to stir up anger/pressure at Kespa. Oh wait, that's exactly what it is.

As for kespa making the decision, people need to understand that this is perfectly normal. Most importantly, a Kespa decision means that it's a joint team decision.

While I'm sure that there are individual players who would like to compete in the GSL, their time and effort playing Starcraft is committed entirely to their teams. And these are not western teams that are more like proxy sponsors than anything else - there is a fixed structure in how the players train, how much they train and what they train for. They don't get to just do whatever they feel like with their time.

In a nutshell, the teams decide what they want to get involved in (which was the case here). The actual players and coaching staff are only members of the team, they're not individual entities.


So what you are saying is because already 32 players of all the teams together participate in the OSL, the other remaining players do not get to participate in any participate in any individual league at all? Sounds legit.
All irony aside, whoever made the decision does not make the decision better for the players.


I have NO idea what you're saying you're thinking I'm saying as that sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. -_-

The remaining players spend their time preparing for Proleague and being practice partners for players who are in the OSL, then preparing for the next qualifiers etc. There is plenty for them to do with their time, if that was your concern.


I just think that it is disgusting that their teams prohibit them from participating in an individual league.
If they don't want to participate, then they don't have to. But at least allow the players who want to participate to do what they want.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 23 2012 10:06 GMT
#240
looks much like a move to make OSL take off with all korean pro gaming stars and leave GSL as a sc2 online ghetto league.
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