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HelloSon
United States456 Posts
IPL regrets that we have to announce the departure of one of our dearest. Erik ‘Doa’ Lonnquist has decided to leave IPL. Doa is pursuing a career with the OGN to cast StarCraft II. His primary reason for wanting to leave was his desire to go back to Korea, a place he came to love. Will we see the return of famed casting duo, PainUser and HDStarcraft?! 
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CuteZergling
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
OGN better raise their game and get Rotterdam or Chill or Wolf or something. | ||
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conz
United Kingdom163 Posts
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Apack
Canada159 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9385 Posts
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NEXUS6
United States413 Posts
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dLG)Bananenbaum
Germany62 Posts
Quite interesting who will cast IPL now, but i hope Kevin stays! | ||
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StaplerPhone
United States813 Posts
 I really like him and Kevin casting together. Best of luck to Doa! | ||
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United States2404 Posts
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Germany369 Posts
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United States1497 Posts
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Sweden777 Posts
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9154 Posts
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inermis
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chambertin
United States1704 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:52 Dodgin wrote: Doa at OGN excites me, good luck Doa! Nice to have you back in Korea finally I was so sad when dolf was disbanded. So many bittersweet things happening these days it seems... Looking forward to the OSL finals but sad for BW, really exciting to see OGN picking up English casters but I felt like IPL has been really starting to roll, Taeja being a boss, other TL players struggling a bit... eh.... I digress... Congrats Doa and good luck  | ||
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Limelights
United States219 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Postman
United States269 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
Maybe OGN is offering higher salary than GOM? | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Farmer Poopy
258 Posts
Edit:forgot to say congratz to doa | ||
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pmp10
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He's a good caster and IPL wasn't going anywhere. Just too bad for the HotSCustom matches he was supposed to cast. | ||
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AbuntuGuntu
United States1972 Posts
Good luck Doa! | ||
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ScaSully
United States488 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
And it seems like OGN are going for DoA and Moletrap(?) and thats a duo the community didn't like when they were at GOM. So unless they are going to hunt down restreams (or if Sayle stop casting live) it just feels like the offical english stream will catch the short end of the stick here. | ||
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Monochromatic
United States997 Posts
Good luck! | ||
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lullaby
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Looking forward to seeing you at OGN. | ||
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FatBat
Germany326 Posts
EDIT: NVM, the thread is quite old and was risen again from the depths of the internet | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:49 dLG)Bananenbaum wrote: Doa + Knocke was for me nearly entertaining as Tastosis. Quite interesting who will cast IPL now, but i hope Kevin stays! yea kevin one of my favourite casters. I think they should bring husky or painuser. Husky has improved a lot recently. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:00 Gosi wrote: I wonder how popular the official OGN english stream will be. Most proleague followers love the korean casting and the ones that don't enjoy it watch Sayle instead, which has a pretty big following from both "BW" and "SC2" people now. And it seems like OGN are going for DoA and Moletrap(?) and thats a duo the community didn't like when they were at GOM. So unless they are going to hunt down restreams (or if Sayle stop casting live) it just feels like the offical english stream will catch the short end of the stick here. Sayle (and other community casters like Oophidian) already said, that they won't be casting when there is official english stream, if I am not mistaken... Edit - gratz to Doa, always liked his casting, happy to hear he is going back to Korea... | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
Good luck to DoA though, he has a good voice for casting. | ||
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JeffGoldblum
Cook Islands191 Posts
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Although I guess it will be Doa and Moletrap now but I don't mind that too much | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
OGN getting english castinf! | ||
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Rwatkins
United Kingdom61 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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vandelayindustries
United States290 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
I hope he won't be casting with Moletrap tho, I just really dislike Moletrap's casting. | ||
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
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MethodSC
United States928 Posts
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
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Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
Sad to see him go, I thought Doa was a great fit at IPL.That said, super excited to see Doa in Korea again, with OGN no less! edit: Oh wow horrible comments in here. | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:09 MethodSC wrote: It'll be interesting to see which analytical caster they have to pair with him, if this does happen that is. I think Doa is supposed to be the analytical caster with Moletrap being the play by play HYPE caster. Edit: And in all honesty, Doatrap was a pretty good duo. And that was without Doa's experience. Now he has a ton. I'm definitely looking forward to it. I don't know what it was about Doa and Kevin, but they managed to anti-hype even the best of matches. They just sounded boring as a duo. It was probably Kevin's super smooth voice that didn't allow for much HYPE. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:11 snailz wrote: sad for IPL considering he's an okay caster, but plain bad for OGN. i expected so much more of them. Lol you got a super high opinion of OGN. What can they expect after coming to scene 2+ years late without poaching some caster already affiliated? | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
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lullaby
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On August 04 2012 05:12 Dakure wrote: I think Doa is supposed to be the analytical caster with Moletrap being the play by play HYPE caster. If doa is really going to be the analytical caster then he has to step up his casting level by A LOT | ||
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ridethecatbus
United States64 Posts
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
I saw the title and was kinda sad and wondered what he would do next. I was pleasantly surprised to see that he was leaving one gig for another. Hopefully they find him a suitable partner to cast with. I'll be honest and say that I didn't hate moletraps casting but I think it would be to much for him to cast two completely different games at the same time. Would be crazy if they somehow got Apollo to cast with him! | ||
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Dumboprime
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
I wish the best for him! | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:09 Kamwah wrote: Definitely way better than the crappy IGN. ??? I'd like to hear why you think IGN/IPL isn't putting on a good production. Because this just sounds retarded. | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:00 Gosi wrote: I wonder how popular the official OGN english stream will be. Most proleague followers love the korean casting and the ones that don't enjoy it watch Sayle instead, which has a pretty big following from both "BW" and "SC2" people now. And it seems like OGN are going for DoA and Moletrap(?) and thats a duo the community didn't like when they were at GOM. So unless they are going to hunt down restreams (or if Sayle stop casting live) it just feels like the offical english stream will catch the short end of the stick here. As far as I know, Teamliquid only features the restream because OGN did not provide an English stream before. So the whole Sayle restreaming the event will (probably) stop after OGN introduces an English stream. The other point is, when it comes to a foreigner audience, OGN probably does not care about the pre-existing watchers. They are putting up the stream to market to the SC2 foreign audience, not the old BW foreign one. Personally, I don't like casting in a language I don't understand, and don't particularly enjoy Sayle's style either. Looking forward to the official English stream. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
Hope your wive comes with you? | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:12 Dakure wrote: I think Doa is supposed to be the analytical caster with Moletrap being the play by play HYPE caster. I always thought they both fell somewhere in between in the whole analytical vs play-by-play debate. Besides, how many purely "analytical casters" are there out there? I can think of three with Artosis, Apollo, Day9. Bitterdam deserve a mention that they can do pretty deep analysis both while still doing play-by-play. You have to consider that those 5 guys can't be everywhere at once. | ||
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Tom Cruise
Denmark482 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
I loved the KevinKnocke/Doa, so I really wish OGN will give him a break! | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:00 Gosi wrote: I wonder how popular the official OGN english stream will be. Most proleague followers love the korean casting and the ones that don't enjoy it watch Sayle instead, which has a pretty big following from both "BW" and "SC2" people now. And it seems like OGN are going for DoA and Moletrap(?) and thats a duo the community didn't like when they were at GOM. So unless they are going to hunt down restreams (or if Sayle stop casting live) it just feels like the offical english stream will catch the short end of the stick here. Most will still watch the OGN english stream. Who watches the GSL in Korean? Almost nobody outside of Korea, since there is an English alternative. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
As much as I love the HDPain BRO TRAIN, it'd be 10x more interesting if they were able to give someone their chance to break into the mainstream. They did it for Kevin, hopefully they can make someone else's career as well! | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:19 Zandar wrote: Most will still watch the OGN english stream. Who watches the GSL in Korean? Almost nobody outside of Korea, since there is an English alternative. No one does it because you can't do it. (Maybe it has changed?). Also, Tastosis. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:21 Fionn wrote: All Doa needs to do now is leave OGN for MLG in a year or so, and he'll have done the Grand Slam of Casting. plz stop | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:46 RinconH wrote: How can Doa compete with Tastosis??? OGN better raise their game and get Rotterdam or Chill or Wolf or something. Doa is really good. Chill will never cast anything except TSL or for BiggerT. | ||
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princealexander
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NoBanMeAgain
United States194 Posts
doa will be missed | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
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Mlex
Canada324 Posts
Noo, Doa.... *...to OGN* Yay! | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
Best of luck! | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:22 ZAiNs wrote: Doa is really good. Chill will never cast anything except TSL or for BiggerT. They don't really need to compete with each other. OGN has it's own niche marketing as the "BW players". People don't watch OGN to see top level Korean play like they do with GSL, they watch because they want to watch Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, because they don't know anything about them except their names and their reputation. Other lesser known players no one cares about, even though they might show the same level play as GSL Code A players or surpass the TaekLeeSsang combo. It's a chance to watch something more "exotic". | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:23 Lonyo wrote: I hope IGN pick up TB as their new caster to replace Doa, so we can have Catspajamas and Totalbiscuit as the IPL casting duo. Totalcatsbiscuitpajamas. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:16 AgentChaos wrote: who kelvin going to cast with?? Celsius or Fahrenheit, I'd assume. + Show Spoiler + Probably someone else at IPL, or they'll get a new caster | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:27 Gamegene wrote: They don't really need to compete with each other. OGN has it's own niche marketing as the "BW players". People don't watch OGN to see top level Korean play like they do with GSL, they watch because they want to watch Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, because they don't know anything about them except their names and their reputation. Are you assuming that OGN doesn't want to break beyond that niche? | ||
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AKomrade
United States582 Posts
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:30 WarrickHunt wrote: Oh, please mean that there will be no moletrap for OGN, please! Moletrap and Torch are the main casters for LoL The Champions. Due to the big popularity of that and already having to cast twice a week, I would be surprised if Moletrap does that, OSL and Proleague atop of it. That would pretty much be casting seven days a week, and I am sure Proleague/OSL will disrupt with LoL at some point in the schedules. | ||
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Canada4020 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:29 Bagi wrote: Are you assuming that OGN doesn't want to break beyond that niche? Of course not, but they don't need to worry about directly competing with GSL. It's not like the SC2 audience is going to watch one or the other. People don't choose between only watching Dreamhack, or only watching MLG, unless their broadcast times interfere. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:31 Plexa wrote: To be blunt, this is a poor decision by OGN. Having doa, and potentially moletrap, casting simply cements their status as the secondary starcraft 2 tournament in Korea (as perceived by nonkoreans). And as such, I doubt this will do much in the way of helping OGN grow their foreign SC2 audience. They would have been much better off securing someone like Sayle which, at the very least, would have set them apart from signing GOM's leftovers. I strongly agree. Doa is great, but OGN could have had better. I totally agree that this keeps OGN in 2nd place. They have the money for 1st. They could have strong arm'ed it. I get the feeling that Moletrap has been training his casting really hard knowing what he's up against. I hope for the best. But fact is, GOM is clearly #1 in this scenario. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:31 Plexa wrote: To be blunt, this is a poor decision by OGN. Having doa, and potentially moletrap, casting simply cements their status as the secondary starcraft 2 tournament in Korea (as perceived by nonkoreans). And as such, I doubt this will do much in the way of helping OGN grow their foreign SC2 audience. They would have been much better off securing someone like Sayle which, at the very least, would have set them apart from signing GOM's leftovers. It's probably just a matter of availability. I'm sure they've given offers to every popular caster that isn't contracted by GOMTV. It's just that a lot of the top casters have repeatedly discussed their reluctance to move from their homes, and that their financial stability allows them to turn down offers like OGN. I remember Husky talking about how GOMTV offered him a casting spot during the first open seasons, but rejecting it because he enjoyed California/Oregon more. | ||
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WaesumNinja
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
But I liked his cast at IPL TAC so much =( | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:16 Bagi wrote: I always thought they both fell somewhere in between in the whole analytical vs play-by-play debate. Besides, how many purely "analytical casters" are there out there? I can think of three with Artosis, Apollo, Day9. Bitterdam deserve a mention that they can do pretty deep analysis both while still doing play-by-play. You have to consider that those 5 guys can't be everywhere at once. I'd put Tasteless on analytical, but he never has to play the role. During Code A (or gstl) when he is with Khaldor (or someone else) he does a lot more analysis casting, but with Artosis there is no need. | ||
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BanditX
United States78 Posts
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DoA
Korea (South)599 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:31 Plexa wrote: To be blunt, this is a poor decision by OGN. Having doa, and potentially moletrap, casting simply cements their status as the secondary starcraft 2 tournament in Korea (as perceived by nonkoreans). And as such, I doubt this will do much in the way of helping OGN grow their foreign SC2 audience. They would have been much better off securing someone like Sayle which, at the very least, would have set them apart from signing GOM's leftovers. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. FUCK YEAH. FUCK YEAH. FUCK YEAH. Gogogo Doa! Please stream some Korean ladder too -_-. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44336 Posts
Really liked Doa and CatsPajamas together. Good luck in the future, Doa! | ||
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Zidane
United States1686 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
Good Luck to him! | ||
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
forever korea | ||
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Netherlands12 Posts
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. Haha, awesome. Good luck man! | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. Glad to hear it. Best of luck | ||
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MooLen
Germany501 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:45 zerious wrote: Moletrap + Doa... again? I like Doa but why the fuck does Moletrap getting back to cast something in SC2. I think casters that do regulary bad casts in SC2 should get banned from their job, just like bad players dont get money or anything. I know it sounds mean but i´m getting angry by bad analysis and casters that dont even want to improve. And hey i will get a warning for making a true and sensefull statement regarding a problem that other people share aswell! | ||
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Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
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tiaz
Sweden231 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:31 Plexa wrote: To be blunt, this is a poor decision by OGN. Having doa, and potentially moletrap, casting simply cements their status as the secondary starcraft 2 tournament in Korea (as perceived by nonkoreans). And as such, I doubt this will do much in the way of helping OGN grow their foreign SC2 audience. They would have been much better off securing someone like Sayle which, at the very least, would have set them apart from signing GOM's leftovers. I agree with full heart to every word in that post. It's almost like I feel tempted to write "/thread"... | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:19 Zandar wrote: Most will still watch the OGN english stream. Who watches the GSL in Korean? Almost nobody outside of Korea, since there is an English alternative. You can't watch it outside Korea... | ||
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. You're in my top 3 caster list | ||
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DrahtMaul
Germany74 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
Yes, you can. | ||
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France204 Posts
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balosan
Poland232 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:46 RinconH wrote: How can Doa compete with Tastosis??? OGN better raise their game and get Rotterdam or Chill or Wolf or something. I dont want to offend chill, but he is not good caster. No clue about the game and saying random wrong stuff all the time. Not sure why would you put him so high. About topic, never liked doa casting that much, but kind of get used to him and other guy duo at IPL. Im curious who will now cast for them, maybe comeback of hd & painuser. | ||
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JazzNL
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United Kingdom7161 Posts
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United States2033 Posts
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totii
United States25 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. "Yeah, no kidding" GL at ogn! | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
I was looking forward to the IPTL so much and now... Well, I'll still watch it but I'm really not a big fan of Kevin Knocke. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On a different topic, isn't OGN content mainly targetted at Korean audiences? I have very little interest in what OGN has to offer based on what I've seen from them so far (SC2 and LoL-wise), so it kind of surprises me that they keep absorbing english-speaking casters... I miss Moletrap | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:46 RinconH wrote: How can Doa compete with Tastosis??? OGN better raise their game and get Rotterdam or Chill or Wolf or something. how could wolf compete with tastosis... just trying to copy artosis on everything but not as funny or knowledgeable | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:53 Zato-1 wrote: I'm curious as to who will be Kevin Knocke's new partner at IPL. Knocke is one of my favorite casters on the scene alongside Tastosis, TotalBiscuit and Chill, and I hope that IPL keeps on delivering top-tier content in the future. On a different topic, isn't OGN content mainly targetted at Korean audiences? I have very little interest in what OGN has to offer based on what I've seen from them so far (SC2 and LoL-wise), so it kind of surprises me that they keep absorbing english-speaking casters... I miss Moletrap You don't want to watch OSL? | ||
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hangene92
Canada258 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:53 Yaki wrote: didn't he come back to the us because he missed his wife ? The call of the 'tang only lasts so long; then, it's back to important things like Starcraft. | ||
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Sweden767 Posts
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mouz.Wake
Sweden136 Posts
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Canada2799 Posts
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United States6231 Posts
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
when he first joined GOM I wasn't a fan, but he's quickly become one of the staples of the scene. Gonna be sad seeing him leave IPL though, as Kevin and him worked together really well. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
Now that you mention it, will OSL admit non-KeSPA players next season? I'm under the impression that OSL = KeSPA players only, but I'm not sure. If they admit outside players into the OSL and we can see some top-tier play, then I might be interested | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
I also hope for the sake of OGN's promotion to the west that whoever the casters are, they do a good job at knowing players and their shit. Obviously Moletrap's got some really good BW knowledge, but a lot of newer KeSPA rookies have come on since he shifted focus to LoL/SC2, and for goodness sake I don't want him calling another player a "scrub" like he called Sculp. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
Good luck at OGN! | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. Good response. ^^ I hope so! | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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United States3733 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:00 Canucklehead wrote: Ouch, just read in Doa's AMA that he's getting divorced. Sad to hear man. Good luck at OGN!I've always suspected SC > Marriage, and this only serves as confirmation. | ||
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Germany23576 Posts
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Ireland1225 Posts
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
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Megakenny
Canada829 Posts
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:15 Gamegene wrote: ??? I'd like to hear why you think IGN/IPL isn't putting on a good production. Because this just sounds retarded. I'll ignore your post seeing as your reply sounds like a fanboy who states that it's retarded at the slightlest dislike. | ||
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Gaius Baltar
United States449 Posts
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. Go get 'em tiger | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
Keep up the passion and keep on improving. I sitll have my doubts about your casting but I'm more than willing to be proven wrong! Fighting! | ||
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. I just dislike Moletrap's casting. I'd take you with anyone else anyday. | ||
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Miles Pedrone
United States10 Posts
Very sad to see IPL lose such an amazing duo. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
All the best, Doa and IPL! | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:59 Zato-1 wrote: Now that you mention it, will OSL admit non-KeSPA players next season? I'm under the impression that OSL = KeSPA players only, but I'm not sure. If they admit outside players into the OSL and we can see some top-tier play, then I might be interested Yes, you can see that in the current OSL groups for the upcoming season. | ||
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
Edit: wow, plexas opinion really surprised me....and doas response was heartening.(as opposed to disheartening, idk if heartening is a word) I would like sayle, or even the return of the code a casting trio with some deal with ogn. Because doa and wolf are good in my memory, even though i deeply enjoy woffdor now. | ||
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Aulisemia
United States123 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Wafflelisk
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:02 IPA wrote: I've always suspected SC > Marriage, and this only serves as confirmation. Doa did say that it wasn't esports related though. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:11 setzer wrote: Yes, you can see that in the current OSL groups for the upcoming season. I think what will be interesting is, will they run another split qualifier for the next OSL season because if they don't there's a good chance there will be 0 bw pros in the next OSL. | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:50 LeeDawg wrote: doa and cats pjs was my favoirte casting duo. sad to see him go... Yeah mine too right after Doa and Wolf. Really hoping to see them together again at some point in the future even if its just a private stream or on special occasions. | ||
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anrimayu
United States875 Posts
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:11 setzer wrote: Yes, you can see that in the current OSL groups for the upcoming season. Furthermore, the whole KESPA+MLG partnership came about because Kespa wanted to market themselves more to foreigners I believe. I think Kespa is very seriously considering the foreign market. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Only thing they could have done is offer Apollo the bank and beg him to move to Korea. Rotterdam is with NASL, Tastosis and Wolfdor are with GOM, and then Day9 is not going to move to Korea for OGN. They didn't have a great list of options to choose from. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:06 Kamwah wrote: I'll ignore your post seeing as your reply sounds like a fanboy who states that it's retarded at the slightlest dislike. You insult a brand out of the blue, don't explain yourself, and then make a really pathetic excuse. Cmon now. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:13 Canucklehead wrote: I think what will be interesting is, will they run another split qualifier for the next OSL season because if they don't there's a good chance there will be 0 bw pros in the next OSL. You give the KeSPA pros too little credit.  Reality made it through the WCS qualifiers and a couple of them beat top notch GSL players in their qualifying brackets. You have to bear in mind that they are still playing two games. However much they practice, playing two games competitively is tough on you. Next OSL will probably only start when the BW pros are all fully switched to SC2. Also, HotS is on the horizon. And from there, everything's kinda reset. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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ordinarY
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United States1431 Posts
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
Edit: I really wish some of the current professional players who have dabbled in casting and haven't been having success in the pro scene would make the switch and work for OGN. Selfish, I know. I know its hard for a competitor to stop competing but there are a lot of current players who, imo, have shown a tremendous amount of talent for casting. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
I wonder if OGN will even want to hire DOA considering he didn't last with GSL. I don't know all the particulars of why he left GSL in the first place, but is it safe to assume he didn't make the cut there? If OGN wants GSL level casters, or better, I wouldn't think they would hire anyone who didn't stick at GSL. No he chose to come back to the US because he has a wife. I assume if he's planning a long term deal with OSL, he'll likely bring her with him and move out there at least for the time being. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
Edit: Oh, the divorce thing totally explains it. Fresh start will be awesome for him then, can't wait ^_^ | ||
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Scrubby-onE
Canada42 Posts
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MrF
United States320 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:20 Joedaddy wrote: I wonder if OGN will even want to hire DOA considering he didn't last with GSL. I don't know all the particulars of why he left GSL in the first place, but is it safe to assume he didn't make the cut there? If OGN wants GSL level casters, or better, I wouldn't think they would hire anyone who didn't stick at GSL. He left because he got a better offer at IPL. Him leaving GOM almost left them shorthanded mind you because Khaldor wasn't planning on staying long initially and Moletrap jumped to OGN LOL. | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9154 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:57 DivinO wrote: DoaKnocke was my favorite casting duo. :X yeah they had a really good chemistry together on a cast, will miss that at IPL | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Bedrock
United States395 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. I hope you prove everyone wrong. | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:16 Fionn wrote: What could have OGN done, though? Out of everyone available, Doa is one of the best. Only thing they could have done is offer Apollo the bank and beg him to move to Korea. Rotterdam is with NASL, Tastosis and Wolfdor are with GOM, and then Day9 is not going to move to Korea for OGN. They didn't have a great list of options to choose from. And out of the "community" casters I'd say Orb is by far the best one, but I guess he wasn't asked even and he's pretty busy with ESV stuff. | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:11 setzer wrote: Yes, you can see that in the current OSL groups for the upcoming season. Nice! Guess I'll get to see how Doa and Moletrap pair up after all | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
i heared that proleague gets english cast and i knew it will be moletrap but with doa ... thought he cant cause of his wife ? DAMN so happy sorry for ipl "!" | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:25 Zato-1 wrote: Nice! Guess I'll get to see how Doa and Moletrap pair up after all 5 of the 7 Dual Tournament groups for the sc2 OSL have already been completed. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1/Dual_Tournament/Non-KeSPA http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1/Dual_Tournament/KeSPA The last two Kespa groups will play on August 7th then shortly after OSL proper ( ro16 onward ) will start and kespa/non kespa players will play against each other. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11048 Posts
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:20 Scrubby-onE wrote: I wish he would stay at IPL. I hope OGN will only hire casters with real high level insight. It would be pretty awesome if they hired tastosis, incontrol, or atleast people who have made it into GM, with some casting experience. LOL Yea because we don't want casters who stay on point and understand when to chit-chat and when to cast. He is not a good caster, he's merely used because he has a fanbase. | ||
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ShynZ
331 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:22 pdd wrote: He left because he got a better offer at IPL. Him leaving GOM almost left them shorthanded mind you because Khaldor wasn't planning on staying long initially and Moletrap jumped to OGN LOL. he left because of his wife. now he is about to divorce, which gives him a chance to go back to korea | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:27 Dodgin wrote: 5 of the 7 Dual Tournament groups for the sc2 OSL have already been completed. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1/Dual_Tournament/Non-KeSPA http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1/Dual_Tournament/KeSPA The last two Kespa groups will play on August 7th then shortly after OSL proper ( ro16 onward ) will start and kespa/non kespa players will play against each other. Many thanks for the links, I couldn't find find the OGN Dual Tournament under Liquipedia 2's Tournament section. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:31 ShynZ wrote: he left because of his wife. now he is about to divorce, which gives him a chance to go back to korea How do you know that? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
He's doing an AMA on Reddit atm and answered that question : http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/xmzmv/hi_im_erik_doa_lonnquist_current_ipl/c5nry77 | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
best of luck doa, i hope we do not get a "screamer" as mr. knockes new partner ^.^ | ||
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Thenerf
United States258 Posts
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NuclearJudas
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fenrysk
United States364 Posts
i hope OGN can offer sayle enough money to cast for them too, that'd be hella interesting, Sayle+Doa casting although i personally wouldn't mind Moletrap either | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:38 Dodgin wrote: He's doing an AMA on Reddit atm and answered that question : http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/xmzmv/hi_im_erik_doa_lonnquist_current_ipl/c5nry77 That fucking blows for him | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
No offence to IPL, their major events are bar none, even MLG. Their regular streams definitely pale in comparison. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On August 04 2012 05:37 DoA wrote: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm going to change your opinion on this. DoA lays down the smackdown : ) I love the confidence, and I ahve faith in it | ||
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Tnerb
United States141 Posts
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
So best of luck and fun for Doa @ OGN! Also I think, that Kevin Knocke and Doa are one of the very best casting combos we have right now in SC2. So it's really sad to see them break apart | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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pindleskin
New Zealand199 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
Seriously that blows, sorry to hear for him, but glad he's able to pursue his other passion and best luck to him. Those who are hating.... Doa was actually a very decent caster then but was still very 'new', if you've watched him cast anything at IPL since then, he's become only better, and I truly believe he'll be a good asset to OGN's casting staff, especially since he's been exposed to the scene for so much longer. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
I remember the first time DoA casted on GOM. He had massively positive comments. Hope he carries on. | ||
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deroth
United States83 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:47 Hider wrote: Nobody masters the jibber-jabber better than Doa. This is especially something low level players love, because they do not understand the difference between that and real analysis. User was warned for this post As much as I don't want to be negative, a good caster has to have either strong charisma and be a good entertainer or have top level in-game knowledge and understanding. DOA is just cpt obvious that is really predictable. Poor OGN :/ But good luck to him nonetheless. | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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NanoSC
Norway31 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On August 04 2012 07:03 deroth wrote: As much as I don't want to be negative, a good caster has to have either strong charisma and be a good entertainer or have top level in-game knowledge and understanding. DOA is just cpt obvious that is really predictable. Poor OGN :/ Charisma yes. But over the top screaming, no. DoA is just a different style of casting. A nice, collective, easy to hear casting. It's the one hand-on-a-nice-cup-of-coffee while watching GSL , type of casting | ||
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PinkBean
Norway38 Posts
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
Best of luck to both sides, I love Doa's casting and IPL is one of my favorite ongoing tournaments ^^ | ||
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Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
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Acronysis
872 Posts
Congrats =) Crazy turn of events though - I hope IPL can find just as good of a replacement. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
Hope he can get another high tier caster to co cast with him and not "he that should not be named". Hope IPL can do a great pickup since Doa and Kevin was a good duo. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
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Japan1926 Posts
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Netless
Canada6 Posts
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Isaac
United States810 Posts
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RuMCaKe
United States559 Posts
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TKK
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he definitly seems like a great personality and most important he is very calm and easy. but often i wondered does he even listen to what nonsense he is talking about. maybe he is more nervous while casting then it seems. | ||
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holladoub
Canada32 Posts
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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mnhn329
Canada4 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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Bulgaria92 Posts
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bLecK
Australia625 Posts
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captive411
United States80 Posts
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cmcaneff5502
United States116 Posts
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
On August 04 2012 06:16 Gamegene wrote: You insult a brand out of the blue, don't explain yourself, and then make a really pathetic excuse. Cmon now. Sorry for disliking a brand that's all about the money and not esports. | ||
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MysteryTerran
United States178 Posts
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
what doa needs is an analytic caster like artosis or day9 and he is perfectly set for any league/tournament that beeing said knocke/doa WAS a good duo regarding the fact mr knocke (sorry no offense:O) has even less clue of high level play - but yet again i enjoyed em very much - not too overhyped on upcomers, not underestimating "lesser" players, decent read on most games, entertaining dialogues and prolly most important a very good synergy between them conclusion: as a lesser player you will hardly notice any difference in deep analysis and as a high level player you often see those obvious things yourself anyway - casters should mainly entertain and point out major stuff | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 04 2012 07:58 Kamwah wrote: Sorry for disliking a brand that's all about the money and not esports. That's all you had to say. There's no need to be over defensive if you just explain yourself. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 04 2012 07:58 Kamwah wrote: Sorry for disliking a brand that's all about the money and not esports. And how is IPL not about eSports? | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
On August 04 2012 07:58 Kamwah wrote: Sorry for disliking a brand that's all about the money and not esports. Whether you like it or not, all gaming entertainment companies out there are for money. Sure, they'd love to see esports get bigger because they love it, but that would help them make more money as well. Also, that makes no sense, because what IPL is doing is helping esports tremendously, whether you think they care about it or not. | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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XenClamzz
United States130 Posts
(((((((((((((((( this is extremely upsetting. knocke and doa were amazing casters together. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
I'm sure Doa will be great for OSL. Hope he'll get a great co-caster though. Don't know what IPL will do. PainUser/HD was a pretty cool combo, but I really like Kevin - and it would be a shame to switch him out | ||
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Wayne123
88 Posts
On August 04 2012 07:58 Kamwah wrote: Sorry for disliking a brand that's all about the money and not esports. Without the money, E-Sport wouldn´t exists. Money is basically the most important thing, if you can´t make money out of something, no big company would support/sponsor it. That´s how the world works. Whether you like it or not, it´s all about being able to earn a lot of money and being profitable. E-Sport is just another way of making money. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
DoA + Knocke was such a chill combination. Definitely my favorite, as they are generally always doing re-streams and I never care to watch tournaments live. It's the perfect easy morning treat; breakfast and two relaxed, composed casters with good voices.I don't dislike Moletrap, but his voice makes it almost impossible for me to watch his casts, I hope that he doesn't end up being DoA's co-caster. I don't think I'll be watching any of those games if he is =/ | ||
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whodat92
United States48 Posts
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:45 zerious wrote: Moletrap + Doa... again? Seems likely. I like Doa...can't say i was a fan of Moletrap though. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
On August 04 2012 08:32 Cyanocyst wrote: Seems likely. I like Doa...can't say i was a fan of Moletrap though. Moletrap is casting LoL no? | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
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Mask DeMasque
United States415 Posts
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TheSun
Germany57 Posts
i loved IPL with those two, always the first thing i check | ||
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Paramo
Mexico138 Posts
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haitike
Spain2713 Posts
I will watch Korean casters anyway, they are better and more profesionals that all english casters. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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gardinho
Germany368 Posts
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
Good luck in Korea for round two! | ||
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robm
United States56 Posts
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Rad
United States935 Posts
I like Doa as a caster too and hope he does well at OGN, but I really don't like the Doa/moletrap combo at all. They really should just grab Wolf from Gom, stick him with Doa, and you'll have 2 powerhouse casting combos in Korea that would probably stay together for a long time. I don't see the doa/moletrap "brand", so to speak, growing on the community. They clash so bad IMO. Anyway, grats Doa! | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On August 04 2012 09:13 Rad wrote: If I had a choice, I'd want to see Sayle casting it. Who he'd cast with I have no idea, he's so good solo so I'm not sure what kind of caster would go well with him. I like Doa as a caster too and hope he does well at OGN, but I really don't like the Doa/moletrap combo at all. They really should just grab Wolf from Gom, stick him with Doa, and you'll have 2 powerhouse casting combos in Korea that would probably stay together for a long time. I don't see the doa/moletrap "brand", so to speak, growing on the community. They clash so bad IMO. Anyway, grats Doa! It's still possible that Sayle might cast. Having just Doa and Moletrap cast two leagues would be pretty demanding. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On August 04 2012 07:58 Kamwah wrote: Sorry for disliking a brand that's all about the money and not esports. The more money there is in esports, the bigger esports is. You cant expect a huge organization to put anything before money, making money is what they are trying to do. Im sure that IPL employees all love esports and are excited about the growth of it. | ||
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Norway259 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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tabbi
Germany113 Posts
![[image loading]](http://nerdballer.de/files/doa_kelly.jpg) | ||
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
( and please not moletrap T_T ) | ||
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On August 04 2012 09:34 tabbi wrote: Grats Doa! Kelly cocasting? ;D LOOOL Priceless! | ||
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dieselnerd
United States42 Posts
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darkachu
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
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Spacekyod
United States818 Posts
Good luck with OGN Doa! | ||
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United States117 Posts
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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chris5180
198 Posts
but best of luck to an awesome guy!!! | ||
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cndaks
United States95 Posts
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everyone
United States91 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
Honestly him and kevin weren't that great. Same personality. He needs a partner who will question his analysis, not just blindly agree always. | ||
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
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johnny123
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Pull
United States308 Posts
Gl Doa!!! | ||
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
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paintfive
785 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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izual155
United States48 Posts
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
Either way, good to hear he's going where his dreams are. | ||
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
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CarlosOmse
Germany507 Posts
HD would have to refresh his skills first at the last ipl he was horrible calling completly wrong this buildorder and metagame wise talking about old stuff no one does but if he gets up to date with the game i'd also like a comeback from him | ||
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CarlosOmse
Germany507 Posts
On August 04 2012 12:34 LeSioN wrote: Ugh if moltrap is casting the ogn league I wont be watching. seems like a nice guy, just find him slightly annoying. he always seemed to ignore his co-caster and scream like a banshee. also, stories about band camp = not entertaining. afaik moletrap does the LoL casting he should stick with that, its not even the fact i dont like him but if he did lol for some time now and had his focus on it i think he will be completly outdated in terms of common builds and metagame | ||
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United States837 Posts
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Surgical_Strike
United States72 Posts
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Canada1392 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
One question though. I notice that even DoA refers to himself, by pronouncing his name as: dough-A Wouldn't it be much more badass if he pronounced it DEE OH A? I think that would be infinitely more awesome, just my opinion though. I have to say though. DoA, if you are reading this: Please, don't ever, ever change. I know InControl once said to you "you're too nice on your casting" or something like, he wants to see more "edge" from you, but please no. You're such a nice guy that it grew on me, and honestly, I think it's time that the whole bad boy image takes a back seat to the wholesome, self-effacing, likeable guy - and that's you. Another thing is, I remember in an interview that your reasons for leaving Korea and doing the IPL is due to major homesickness. Would this be issue again for you, or have you found ways to circumvent or resolve this? *EDIT With DoA's departure, I personally feel it's win-win for everyone concerned, especially if we see the return of HD and Painuser(YEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!) I don't know about you guys, but I always felt HD/Painuser had this goofy charm in their duet that I kinda liked, even though sure, some things were a bit imperfect, but I think the boys would have worked those kinks out. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
Thinking about IPL's future, goodness, I gotta wonder who would best complement Kevin as a casting duo. ...Heck, who COULDN'T do well with Kevin? He's so entertaining. X-D TotalBiscuit, maybe? | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 04 2012 13:10 cLAN.Anax wrote: Doa's a decent caster; not the best, not my favorite, but he ain't bad. If he joins OGN, I pray he does well, and continues to improve. Thinking about IPL's future, goodness, I gotta wonder who would best complement Kevin as a casting duo. ...Heck, who COULDN'T do well with Kevin? He's so entertaining. X-D TotalBiscuit, maybe? Holy shit, TB would be amazing- but I doubt it. TB seems to be making enough content by himself outside of casting SC2 every night. However, Cats has a velvety voice and perfect non-regional diction, he'd work well with a really technical caster/high level player, especially with some sort of EU accent (for contrast). Apollo maybe? Is Rotterdam out of the question? Failing a Euro QTpie, perhaps Painuser or Mr.Bitter? | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On August 04 2012 13:16 Crownlol wrote: Holy shit, TB would be amazing- but I doubt it. TB seems to be making enough content by himself outside of casting SC2 every night. However, Cats has a velvety voice and perfect non-regional diction, he'd work well with a really technical caster/high level player, especially with some sort of EU accent (for contrast). Apollo maybe? Is Rotterdam out of the question? Failing a Euro QTpie, perhaps Painuser or Mr.Bitter? 1. TB 2. Rotterdam 3. Mr. Bitter (very close third) Just if you ask me. EDIT: This is for being Kevin's casting partner, mind you all.  | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
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Vari
United States532 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:45 zerious wrote: Moletrap + Doa... again? I actually felt Doa did well with Moletrap, his laid backness is a good pairing to Moletrap's intensity. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 04 2012 12:34 LeSioN wrote: Ugh if moltrap is casting the ogn league I wont be watching. seems like a nice guy, just find him slightly annoying. he always seemed to ignore his co-caster and scream like a banshee. also, stories about band camp = not entertaining. There is always the free Korean OGN stream available if that's okay with you, not to mention the possibility of some casters doing unofficial English restreams. Unlike GOMtv, OGN seems quite open to letting their Korean stream be watched and restreamed by foreign audiences. | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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joen05
United States126 Posts
On August 04 2012 13:24 cLAN.Anax wrote: 1. TB 2. Rotterdam 3. Mr. Bitter (very close third) Just if you ask me. EDIT: This is for being Kevin's casting partner, mind you all. I would say TB only because BitterDam is great for NASL, and wouldn't want to hurt one league's caster situation so much to help another. | ||
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TheAsianThing
United States12 Posts
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
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Scrubadubdub
United States9 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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crawlingchaos
Canada2025 Posts
On August 04 2012 14:43 Ksquared wrote: I hope DoA gets a good cocaster. I'll always miss Wolf + Doa though. One of my favourite casting duos :D GL with OGN Doa! | ||
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Groog
127 Posts
On August 04 2012 13:24 cLAN.Anax wrote: 1. TB 2. Rotterdam 3. Mr. Bitter (very close third) Just if you ask me. EDIT: This is for being Kevin's casting partner, mind you all. No way in hell it will be TB. He can't work for IGN, are you kidding me? He would lose all the credibility he has built up on youtube. Also, he makes dat utube moneh and doesn't need a permanent casting gig. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
Tastosis would be my dream for casting at OGN, but seeing as they're taken, Doa is not a bad choice. | ||
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themask4f
138 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
Would have been very very awesome to see Apollo cast for OGN. Now it wil be Moletrap and DOA. It's never a good sign if DOA is covering the analytic part of casting. | ||
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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redDuke
Australia207 Posts
maybe they can get him back for big events like IPL5 | ||
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kaztal
Sweden68 Posts
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haroz
Australia707 Posts
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FrodoFraggin
Italy32 Posts
sour for IPL staff I hope that HD+PainUser will come back into things. I don't like AskJoshy at all, he's so poor on sc2 knowledge and he's not funny. | ||
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Cubeface
965 Posts
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Fabozi
Slovakia336 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On August 04 2012 17:35 FrodoFraggin wrote: Doa at OGN ? GJ man ! sour for IPL staff I hope that HD+PainUser will come back into things. I don't like AskJoshy at all, he's so poor on sc2 knowledge and he's not funny. The same can be said for HD in a game HerO vs DRG he didn't even know why HerO put his zealot in between the mineral line. | ||
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Qwix
531 Posts
On August 04 2012 16:40 Kyir wrote: As long as they don't try to put Moletrap together with Doa again, I'm pretty excited about this! Well since those 2 are now there only contracted English broadcasters for Starcraft, you do the math. | ||
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testthewest
Germany274 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:46 RinconH wrote: How can Doa compete with Tastosis??? OGN better raise their game and get Rotterdam or Chill or Wolf or something. Doa wasn't as bad as all the haters say, infact he was quite good. Funny how much people "ass-kiss" Tastosis. At start of GSL, they were flamed like hell. I guess if people give Doa a chance, they will like him. And to answer your question: Doa can compare (and surpass) to tasteless any day of the week. | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
On August 04 2012 17:53 Qwix wrote: Well since those 2 are now there only contracted English broadcasters for Starcraft, you do the math. I didn't know that they hired Moletrap. Welp. | ||
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
mhh. never thought he was that good =( hope he gets a good partner, but I think there would have been better choices. | ||
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
I thought Moletrap is casting LoL now? Just saw him a week ago... | ||
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markrevival
United States222 Posts
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Wockets
Hong Kong467 Posts
One of the few that rivaled tastosis. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On August 04 2012 19:55 Jojo131 wrote: I thought Moletrap is casting LoL now? Just saw him a week ago... OSL doesn't have an English stream yet period. However, they're now clearly looking to start one, with OGN hiring DOA. Moletrap is the only other English speaking SC2 caster on their payroll iirc and the osl finals had an english stream, casted by moletrap. So its pretty obvious that Moletrap will probably be DOA's co-caster. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On August 04 2012 18:14 testthewest wrote: Doa wasn't as bad as all the haters say, infact he was quite good. Funny how much people "ass-kiss" Tastosis. At start of GSL, they were flamed like hell. I guess if people give Doa a chance, they will like him. And to answer your question: Doa can compare (and surpass) to tasteless any day of the week. That had less to do with 'giving them a chance' so much as them improving dramatically once they were casting regularly. Doa/moletrap/whateverotherbignamecasters have already been casting regularly for some time at this point so opinions can be more fixed - for good or for bad. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On August 04 2012 19:55 Jojo131 wrote: I thought Moletrap is casting LoL now? Just saw him a week ago... He is indeed. I don't think it's going to be him as a direct result of that. Who it will be, i dunno. Maybe it's gonna be kellymilkies D: | ||
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Ritchie
Canada206 Posts
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bsdaemon
618 Posts
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NozliW_
Chile70 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On August 04 2012 10:51 Kaxon wrote: Interesting. I like Doa and I'm definitely more likely to watch OSL than IPL so that part is good. But Doa's been in Korea twice already and if I understand correctly he left both times because his wife didn't want to be there. So I hope that works out this time... I wondered about that too. Maybe they negotiated for her to join him this time? | ||
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Tanngrisnir
Sweden131 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:47 Hider wrote: Nobody masters the jibber-jabber better than Doa. This is especially something low level players love, because they do not understand the difference between that and real analysis. User was warned for this post But hes not a analysist? Hes a caster! I think you might have a problem destinguising the two of them. <3 Doa | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1186 Posts
Good luck in Korea, though. | ||
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NKB
United Kingdom608 Posts
Glad to here that he is joining OGN | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On August 05 2012 00:23 Elurie wrote: I wondered about that too. Maybe they negotiated for her to join him this time? he did an AMA on reddit where he said they were getting divorced that's unfortunate but at least there's a silver lining in that there's nothing tying him to stay in the US anymore | ||
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UndoneJin
United States438 Posts
All and all I have to believe this is good news, let somebody less established move into the IPL spot and let Doa go to the big leagues at OGN. | ||
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
. Good luck man | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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1st_Panzer_Div.
United States621 Posts
Rip Zeez. | ||
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deceptionx
United States152 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:45 zerious wrote: Moletrap + Doa... again? Oh god I hope not | ||
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Gackt_
335 Posts
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On August 05 2012 04:27 Champloo wrote: I just hope this doesn't mean TotalBiscuit will take his spot. I personally like TB's casting quite much, but I am persuaded that he really needs an analytical co-caster and Kevin Knocke just doesn't fill that bill well enough. | ||
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Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
On August 05 2012 04:33 WigglingSquid wrote: I personally like TB's casting quite much, but I am persuaded that he really needs an analytical co-caster and Kevin Knocke just doesn't fill that bill well enough. Not only that but I doubt he'll move across the country until his immigration status is handled. He's not even taking gigs out of the country for fear of that frelling the process up. Good luck, Doa, and I look forward to the english OGN casts. | ||
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ChewbroCColi
Denmark108 Posts
Doa doesn't know much about the game and his humor is just way off imo. He seems like a pationate guy though. | ||
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lunchrush
United States138 Posts
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
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princealexander
38 Posts
On August 04 2012 18:14 testthewest wrote: Doa wasn't as bad as all the haters say, infact he was quite good. Funny how much people "ass-kiss" Tastosis. At start of GSL, they were flamed like hell. I guess if people give Doa a chance, they will like him. And to answer your question: Doa can compare (and surpass) to tasteless any day of the week. Im not a hater, just opinion. Doa is not likeable caster (for me atleast) for 2 reasons: (1)No game knowledge (gold level knowledge it is like 0 knowledge for most viewer, who mostly players themselves) If caster have no knowledge, he should entertain atleast, but doa not even close to do this, he is like (2)fake idk... Thats not fortuitously that's doa+moletrap was most hated major casters, and it is a fact that many people didnt watch gsl because of those 2 guys... | ||
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NET
United States703 Posts
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M7Jagger
Sweden237 Posts
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BanditX
United States78 Posts
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reyder
United States71 Posts
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CrushDog5
Canada207 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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kinsky
Germany368 Posts
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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JeffGoldblum
Cook Islands191 Posts
On August 05 2012 05:32 princealexander wrote: Im not a hater, just opinion. Doa is not likeable caster (for me atleast) for 2 reasons: (1)No game knowledge (gold level knowledge it is like 0 knowledge for most viewer, who mostly players themselves) If caster have no knowledge, he should entertain atleast, but doa not even close to do this, he is like (2)fake idk... Thats not fortuitously that's doa+moletrap was most hated major casters, and it is a fact that many people didnt watch gsl because of those 2 guys... Those who whined in the first place where never people who actually paid so their opinion is fucking moot. You most likely fall into that cesspool as well, looking at the vile filth you just spewed out. | ||
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Luiwtf
England217 Posts
On August 05 2012 09:20 JeffGoldblum wrote: Those who whined in the first place where never people who actually paid so their opinion is fucking moot. You most likely fall into that cesspool as well, looking at the vile filth you just spewed out. I paid for GSL until Doa started casting. Well, I paid for the first season he casted with Kelly, since then I've not paid for a single season of GSL. Doa, Moletrap and Wolf are all unwatchable for me (which is a shame, because Khaldor and Tastosis are awesome )I was looking forward to having a Korean tournament that I could actually stand to listen to more than 50% of the time, guess that won't be happening for a while .On the plus side I might be able to watch IPL now :D, I've tried watching it occasionally in the past since they have some awesome players playing, but it was just so painful to listen to that I can only last a couple of maps before I have to close the stream :p.Hopefully OGN will let ooooophidian/sayle carry on restreaming/commentating, but I can't see that happening once they start with English commentary. | ||
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StrafedProtoss
United States16 Posts
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
hope you will cast together again someday | ||
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Groog
127 Posts
On August 05 2012 09:20 JeffGoldblum wrote: Those who whined in the first place where never people who actually paid so their opinion is fucking moot. You most likely fall into that cesspool as well, looking at the vile filth you just spewed out. Logic failure. You're saying paying customers don't complain? wtf? I payed (still do, for GSTL though), and I complained about Moletrap, cos he sucked and still sucks. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
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Timmsh
Netherlands201 Posts
On August 04 2012 04:49 dLG)Bananenbaum wrote: Doa + Knocke was for me nearly entertaining as Tastosis. Quite interesting who will cast IPL now, but i hope Kevin stays! this! I really really really loved the combo :-) | ||
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LDub
25 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3683 Posts
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Luiwtf
England217 Posts
On August 05 2012 21:05 LDub wrote: the community is full of haters. doa is one of the better casters out there. anyone that has anything negitive to say is jealous they arent going to korea. I lol'd. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
I couldn't tell you why, but their casts seemed the most honest and exciting ones (after Tastosis, ofc). | ||
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Brandroid
United States12 Posts
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Demorase
136 Posts
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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
Makes me sad for IPL though, if they go back to HD and painuser it will suck (compared to how great kevin and erik were). Hope they can replace him with some new guy. Probably askjoshy, but it would be cool if they ran a casting competition or something. | ||
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
I look forward to seeing his future casts with OGN. | ||
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BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
. He's been exposed to a lot of connections with players, managers and has obviously casted a TON of games so there's really no reason he should be so mediocre. Oh well. Best of luck in Korea, DoA. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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CrushDog5
Canada207 Posts
How many high-level players (Masters +) liked his casting? Is it just that you have more game knowledge? Do the haters like ANYONE's casting? Do any of the main casters have good enough game knowledge? Just curious. Edit: fixed typo | ||
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BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
On August 07 2012 03:30 CrushDog5 wrote: I'm really surprised at the haters; I thought he was great. How many high-level players (Masters +) liked his casting? Is it just that you have more game knowledge? Do the haters like ANYONE's casting? Do any of the main casters have good enough game knowledge? Just curious. Edit: fixed typo Casters such as Artosis, Apollo, Rotterdam, Khaldor, Gretorp and Day9 have superb game knowledge and it is always a treat to listen to them cast. There is a large discrepancy between those 6 and the rest of the of the SC2 casting community. While I am not a big fan of either Gretorp or Day9's casting styles, the other four make me want to tune in whenever I can. Apollo especially. That guy has a great mind for the game and knows all three races moreso then anyone else in the spotlight. While I've hit high masters on NA a few times and am currently top diamond on korea, I don't consider my grasp of the metagame even close to complete so when I turn to watch some professional games I want professional, analytical commentary. If I wanted a bunch of filler unrelated to what I am watching I'd turn on Fox News. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
and btw i dont get why someone is always labeled as "hater" just because he doesnt enjoy certain casters. People like different things you cant please everyone. I dont like certain casters because they do annoying stuff, but i dont hate anyone, just dont like their casting | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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uikos
United States132 Posts
I'm not sure how to feel about this. I feel in love with Doa and Kevin after all those stressful nights of watching IPL TAC. I've never been quite as excited to tune into anything daily (besides Day9's show) besides IPL when it was just those two. IPL's broadcast is going to feel different to me without that combo...But, on the flip side, OGN is going to be so gooodd! :DD | ||
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Sgany
United Kingdom790 Posts
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KangaRuthless
United States304 Posts
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
Hope it's a smooth transition! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 07 2012 09:05 Sgany wrote: So Flash, Jaedong and Bisu, are going to be commentated by DoA and Moletrap. I hope I can still watch the Korean stream -_- tbh I don't care who the english commentators are I still plan on listening to the korean stream :D. Only way I would watch english one would be if it were artosis/tasteless/day9 and maybe a couple others I can't think of atm. | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1689 Posts
I love Doa, don't get me wrong, but Sayle is so awesome.. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
It is very clear they need an analyst though, that's the only weakness in their casting line-up right now. Catspyjamas is the best play-by-play in the business at this stage and can't be beat when it comes to professional presentation. As with all the best combos, play-by-play/analyst works best and I'm sure IPL will be able to find a couple, particularly with more players taking an interest in casting. | ||
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
On August 08 2012 07:08 TotalBiscuit wrote: I won't be filling Doa's role. I work with IPL when our schedules line up, I'm never going to be a full-time caster. It is very clear they need an analyst though, that's the only weakness in their casting line-up right now. Catspyjamas is the best play-by-play in the business at this stage and can't be beat when it comes to professional presentation. As with all the best combos, play-by-play/analyst works best and I'm sure IPL will be able to find a couple, particularly with more players taking an interest in casting. I want IdrA. I would pay 100 bucks for that tbh. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
He strikes me as someone dealing with depression, or at least melancholy and I don't like that in a caster. | ||
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Sgany
United Kingdom790 Posts
On August 08 2012 04:16 ShowTheLights wrote: Biggest news of this: Sayle (probably) won't be able to cast Proleague anymore I love Doa, don't get me wrong, but Sayle is so awesome.. Which is revolting, Sayle did a great job for so long casting Proleague, he should have been offered the job as a caster. I hope he can continue his stream, I would watch it avidly, instead of someone like DoA who probably has no idea who Bisu or Effort is -_-. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 07 2012 03:30 CrushDog5 wrote: I'm really surprised at the haters; I thought he was great. How many high-level players (Masters +) liked his casting? Is it just that you have more game knowledge? Do the haters like ANYONE's casting? Do any of the main casters have good enough game knowledge? Just curious. Edit: fixed typo I'm high Masters and I like his casting, his game knowledge is fine, and he has good knowledge of current and older trends -- both in terms of builds and players. | ||
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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dGHaiL
United States177 Posts
I really enjoyed his casting with Knocke, they seemed like a good combo - and I actually appreciate some of the back-and-forth humor between them to fill the silent gaps where they would otherwise have to think of something else to say. Somewhat painful when he had to cast with AskJoshy, though, I couldn't stand that guy and I sorta got the impression that DoA was a little irritated too.. hehe | ||
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nenshoua
Brazil27 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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