EPTAny Pros Use Mac? - Page 5
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NuttyFudgesicle
United States29 Posts
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odeSSa
Sweden198 Posts
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frozenrb
Poland389 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:29 NuttyFudgesicle wrote: My wife is a computer engineer, studied CS at UCSD and there is a large population of students who use Macs (I went to UCSD too). No one at her workplace use PCs either. So using the "don't know anything about computers" argument is untrue, and it may very well be the opposite. When it does come to gaming though, the Mac has a few obvious faults, the same with Linux. This is also largely due to the game developers not using the Mac or Linux as their primary platform and if they did I guarantee those issues would be resolved immediately. Until the time comes, the Mac serves as a decent computer for casual gaming at best. They have some partnership with Apple ?? Or just habit? I bet they are now forced to buy expensive apple computers in this hard economic times. The apple time will end, large companies like Adobe and other are leaning towards cheaper solutions. ( prices from february ) PC: i5 2500K Quad 3.3ghz, 8GB 1600MHZ Ram, 1.25Gb NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti 448, 2x2TB HDD Raid0 = £1058 Mac: i5 Quad 3.1ghz, 4GB 1333mhz Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M with 1GB, 1x1TB HDD = £1649 Much more powerful CPU witch you can actualy OC easily to 4 on air without swet, more ram... the card on Mac is for... LAPTOP... no raid... and nearly 600£ more... what is wrong with you people... Don't tell me it will run faster on Mac edit. That's why gamers chose pc, they are cheaper, not because the mice is hard to set. I want more fps for less price... | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:26 frozenrb wrote: This monitor isn't high quality, especially it's glossy surface. Eizo/NEC/Fujitsu is high quality, a lot cheaper monitors are better than this marketing miracle. That's not the point -- point is that the specs (and actual parts) on both the Mac and PC side change from month to month and year to year, sometimes the pricing is more competitive than it is at other times. Once Apple pushes the retina display thing into iMacs, along with locking up the supply for months, they'll have the lead again for a short while and there won't be a Windows alternative at any price. Several months later, the Windows alternative will be much cheaper and just as good, or better. This back-and-forth has been going on for years. | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:45 frozenrb wrote: They have some partnership with Apple ?? Or just habit? I bet they are now forced to buy expensive apple computers in this hard economic times. The apple time will end, large companies like Adobe and other are leaning towards cheaper solutions. ( prices from february ) PC: i5 2500K Quad 3.3ghz, 8GB 1600MHZ Ram, 1.25Gb NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti 448, 2x2TB HDD Raid0 = £1058 Mac: i5 Quad 3.1ghz, 4GB 1333mhz Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M with 1GB, 1x1TB HDD = £1649 Much more powerful CPU witch you can actualy OC easily to 4 on air without swet, more ram... the card on Mac is for... LAPTOP... no raid... and nearly 600£ more... what is wrong with you people... Don't tell me it will run faster on Mac edit. That's why gamers chose pc, they are cheaper, not because the mice is hard to set. I want more fps for less price... Probably not a habit. They're just ready to go, good reliable hardware. As he and others have also mentioned, they're also Unix certified, and so a bunch of tasks are just easier out of the box (programming not gaming.) Where I study CS, a large percentage of the students also choose Macs for this reason. Gamers choose PCs because PCs are better for gaming, no doubt about it. They have a huge selection of games not available on other platforms, and generally have more support in this area. | ||
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Pri1230
United Kingdom148 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:45 frozenrb wrote: They have some partnership with Apple ?? Or just habit? I bet they are now forced to buy expensive apple computers in this hard economic times. The apple time will end, large companies like Adobe and other are leaning towards cheaper solutions. ( prices from february ) PC: i5 2500K Quad 3.3ghz, 8GB 1600MHZ Ram, 1.25Gb NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti 448, 2x2TB HDD Raid0 = £1058 Mac: i5 Quad 3.1ghz, 4GB 1333mhz Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M with 1GB, 1x1TB HDD = £1649 Much more powerful CPU witch you can actualy OC easily to 4 on air without swet, more ram... the card on Mac is for... LAPTOP... no raid... and nearly 600£ more... what is wrong with you people... Don't tell me it will run faster on Mac edit. That's why gamers chose pc, they are cheaper, not because the mice is hard to set. I want more fps for less price... Its nothing to do with cost or price its to do with OS X being a UNIX based operating system as previously stated before. If you don't know shit about computers then you should spew such bullshit. Now if we are talking about gaming machines then yeah of course a windows pc is always going to be better becauase its the lead platform for developing SC2 and other PC games its almost always going to run better on a pc than a mac. A pro is going to use the most compatiable and most tried and tested tools available which is a PC and not a mac. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On August 01 2012 06:45 frozenrb wrote: and nearly 600£ more... what is wrong with you people... Note also that the price difference between Apple and competing brands is much higher outside the U.S. than it is in the U.S., so what holds true in one market may not be the case in another. There are also crazy differences across the product line at any given time. (Apple charges a huge premium for small upgrades from the base model, for example, but the base models may be priced pretty reasonably depending on the product.) All that said, I think that nobody's come in here and listed several pros who use Macs suggests to me that there aren't many, if any. There certainly are a good number of non-pros who successfully play Starcraft 2 on their Macs though, including most of my friends who play. The game runs reasonably well on good hardware and the mouse acceleration thing can be dealt with well enough for most players to be relatively comfortable, either with third party mouse speed adjustments or just getting used to it. I'll point out again, though, that when I went out to buy a computer for the specific purpose of playing Starcraft 2, I bought a Windows PC, and it's been great for that. Anyone with that goal in mind I'd point the same direction. | ||
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Darthsanta13
United States564 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
Also, pros play on Windows because it's a better supported OS for gaming and has more flexible options hardware wise. Does it mean you can't play on Mac, absolutely not, it's just easier to on Windows. Each OS has positives and negatives, and a negative of OSX is that it's slightly less usable for gaming due to a lack of support from developers (though somehow I've still managed to mass about 80 Mac-compatible games on Steam). I've certainly played SC2 on OSX a lot though, I just hook it to an external monitor and use a regular mouse and keyboard. | ||
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vileChAnCe
Canada525 Posts
2. they come with the most useless mouse/keyboard in terms of pro gaming 3. you can't upgrade that shit or its expensive and hard to do 4. most pros enjoy playing other games and MAC's have poor support for gaming in general 5. fuck macs, even if you couldn't list some of the issues gaming society has been brought up to hate the shit out of them and pro gamers are susceptible to biased opinion like anyone else 6. the pros of owning a mac are related to professions outside of gaming so it would be counter intuitive to think someone who creates music or photography would switch gears to a profession in gaming I could go on but i feel I've made my point, I know you weren't looking for reasons but examples of actual players.. to my knowledge there is none. See above as to why | ||
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frozenrb
Poland389 Posts
On August 01 2012 07:03 Pri1230 wrote: Its nothing to do with cost or price its to do with OS X being a UNIX based operating system as previously stated before. If you don't know shit about computers then you should spew such bullshit. Now if we are talking about gaming machines then yeah of course a windows pc is always going to be better becauase its the lead platform for developing SC2 and other PC games its almost always going to run better on a pc than a mac. A pro is going to use the most compatiable and most tried and tested tools available which is a PC and not a mac. Im graphic designer, I work in industry for 6 years ( yea im young ). I had both PC and MAC ( the pro series with glossy ) I know what OS X is, as far as i know its just the better memory management... that's all, they optimize system for one hardware thats why it's faster... Windows is just a mess package of drivers for all cpus, cards. The reason that "designers" use MAC's it's becouse there were one software called QuarkXPress only for MAC. Printing houses were forced to use it. When all DTP/pre-press people started to use it ( The elite of the Design community ), kids and designers in houses started to use them to... The myth was growing. Now it's just a trend because kids want to use what pros use, old designers won't switch to PC, and apple is on the wave now. One or two years ago, when Adobe Systems, the mecca of Apple presented their new Creative Suite on HP i saw posts "why they are using shitty pc's, who use pc's, how can you desing on pc... there is photoshop for windows? Tell me how 4gb ram ( non-ecc ) UNIX based system can be faster than 8 gb PC when i have to load 5 gb file to my ram ?? I can get two better workstations for one overpriced MAC PRO, so yes i don't know shit about computer and OS X, with is actually slower in some tests? ps. My friend also a graphic designer bought that retina thing... and shit is ghosting for 15 minutes. NO THANK YOU. http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20120623_2-MacBookPro-Retina-screen-burn-in-ghost-images.html ok i bet the screen is ok, they just use it wrong edit. ![[image loading]](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UH10yXTwRXY/Tx6XUvkECjI/AAAAAAAABLc/tLT6vEpeD14/acer_apple_mac_laptops_auditorium.jpg) I bet that person is playing SC2, and other ppl are doing serious shit | ||
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ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
also, I know no one asked, but http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194668 kills mouse accel on the mac. | ||
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Scarlett used a MacBook for a while. Not aware of any others, PCs run SC2 better and cheaper so it's the obvious choice | ||
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