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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 31 2012 17:48 GMT
#41
Starcraft 2 is unplayable on mac. At least that was my experience when I tried.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
July 31 2012 17:53 GMT
#42
study in IT but also take dev classes and have friends who made this their primary field. A macbook is sadly the only place you will be able to run all 3 oses on since Apple locks OSX down, so this coupled with the fact that it's build on a Unix base makes it better for coding. Also Macs for graphic designing is more a habit then necessity nowadays, you can find the equivalent software on both platforms.


I already stated that Mac is necessary for a few professional applications, that are very specific. And I believe Snow Leopard is a way to run Apple software on PC - not to mention custom modded stuff made to be like Apple software (ie forgot the name of it, but a way to have apple software on android phones, stuff like that)

Except its not the truth, its biased dribble.


But it is the truth... When none of the pro gamers use Mac, there's a reason. It's not just some coincidence. Mac doesn't sponsor shit. Dell is the only PC company that comes close to, with Alienware, but really, all the sponsors are computer components.

If you want the fastest computer possible, and the best computer possible, or even the best valued computer possible, you are going to build a custom PC. I'm not saying Windows is the answer, you can use ubuntu or a virtual machine, that's fine, whatever, but the answer is definitely not a Mac. It's just good hardware that's completely overpriced. It isn't enough performance for the pros, and it's too expensive to justify. Why buy a $3000 mac desktop when you can literally get an i7 with a top of the line GPU for the same price?

Laptops, are a totally different animal, so I am not talking about laptops, by the way.
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mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
July 31 2012 17:53 GMT
#43
On August 01 2012 02:48 Belial88 wrote:
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I know plenty about computers, and the next computer I buy to use personally (gaming etc.) will be a Mac.

They're not just overpriced, in a fancy case, with the Apple logo.

Go install the OS on a PC, and test drive Apple's hardware, then tell everyone what you think.


I already said the OS is nice, and hardware is good. And the hardware is not "Apples hardware", that's a ridiculous concept, just as much as saying "Dell's hardware" or "Belial's Hardware". It's Intels, AMD, Radeon, NVidia, Kingston, hardware. Hell, it's not even MSi or PNY hardware, it's Tykos and Nvidia, etc.

All Apple does, is buy parts from people like AMD and Intel and Nvidia, and slap them together... in a fancy case, with Apple software. It's not Apple hardware anymore than the custom PC I built is "Belial88 hardware". The difference is that Apple charges $2700 for a desktop that is comparable to a $300 custom built. I mean, I like my quadcore with no level 3 cache, but I think most computer enthusiasists would actually say that's shit quality (if you compare it to, say, an i5 or i7).

There's a reason all the pros play on PC. They LIVE off their computer, it's their job, and their life. They are going to know a lot about computers. Anyone who knows a lot about computers, is not going to buy a Mac, and furthermore, won't buy a PC - they will use a custom built. You see all the stuff about sponsors. What do you think they will want to use, a Mac? A Dell? Or a custom built with top of the line technology like i7, kingston high end RAM, et cetera. That would be like racing cars in a toyota prius - yea, it's a great car, but it's a little overpriced compared to, say, a high end mazda or civic, and even then, that's no where near a custom built race car put together like the formula cars or fancy cars you see on the street that are all souped up.


Please find a different thread to derail.

On topic: I don't play games competitively anymore, but when I did on my Mac, my biggest problem was the drivers for my mouse. Logitech, my favorite gaming mouse company, used to only provide drivers for windows, I don't know what it's like now. That was a huge issue, not beig able to calibrate the mouse properly.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
July 31 2012 17:56 GMT
#44
I play on Mac, and have no problems whatsoever with slowdowns or lag. The only difference as someone else mentioned would be perhaps the hotkeys if you're used to a Mac keyboard.

Regarding the mouse, I haven't found any difference between my Windows or Mac experience with SC2, but I should say I did remove mouse acceleration from both OSes.
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
July 31 2012 17:59 GMT
#45
I feel sad for the OP that this thread derailed even though he placed a very careful disclaimer.

OT: I can't say I know of any pro's who use a mac. I think none.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
July 31 2012 17:59 GMT
#46
On August 01 2012 02:53 Belial88 wrote:
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study in IT but also take dev classes and have friends who made this their primary field. A macbook is sadly the only place you will be able to run all 3 oses on since Apple locks OSX down, so this coupled with the fact that it's build on a Unix base makes it better for coding. Also Macs for graphic designing is more a habit then necessity nowadays, you can find the equivalent software on both platforms.


I already stated that Mac is necessary for a few professional applications, that are very specific. And I believe Snow Leopard is a way to run Apple software on PC - not to mention custom modded stuff made to be like Apple software (ie forgot the name of it, but a way to have apple software on android phones, stuff like that)


Coding is not very specific, there are a lot of people doing this. You can run OSX on a PC, I have done it in vmware on a middle-end HP laptop but it lags like hell because the drivers are not made for it, and more importantly, it's illegal. So Apple forces some people that have no choice into buying their product. You cannot make an application for iPhone without buying a Mac. Yes it is utter bullshit, but it's like that.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 18:00:29
July 31 2012 17:59 GMT
#47
On August 01 2012 02:48 Xpace wrote:
Starcraft 2 is unplayable on mac. At least that was my experience when I tried.

I play on a macbook and it runs fine for me
As for pros, I dont think any of them do. I believe most play on sponsored equipment and apple doesnt sponsor anyone
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
July 31 2012 18:07 GMT
#48
Scarlett used to play on a macbook (with a separate keyboard and mouse).
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DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
July 31 2012 18:18 GMT
#49
I used a mac till i got to about mid masters. I was low masters and since the lag on this old peice of shit wouldn't allow me play late game battles past 150 supply so it was time for an upgrade. I hated macs so i got a pc and now i am high masters
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
July 31 2012 18:22 GMT
#50
I think that it doesnt make a big difference if you use a seperate keyboard / mouse . I cant imagine playing with the mousepad and the mac keyboard that would be hell.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
July 31 2012 18:28 GMT
#51
I'm obviously no pro, but I've played enough on a Mac and Windows to be able to say that for the non-pro it's really not that big a deal to go one way or another. The big practical difference, as someone pointed out here, is that mouse acceleration works differently between the two OSes, even with the most extensive manual tuning, and if I were a pro I would be very hesitant to go into a tournament situation without a good long time practicing on a Windows system.
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tarodotoxin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
July 31 2012 18:29 GMT
#52
On August 01 2012 02:48 Xpace wrote:
Starcraft 2 is unplayable on mac. At least that was my experience when I tried.


you must have used a very old mac.... and with a gaming mouse/keyboard -_-
Vague
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
July 31 2012 18:33 GMT
#53
I don´t think there are any pros using Macs, since they would be in a big disadvantage. I used to play in my Mac and I had an APM of 100. As soon as I started using windows (via Bootcamp) my APM went up to 120. I don't mean to say that a week after my APM was higher, in fact my APM went up 20 points instantly. This is how much a Mac can slow you down....
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
July 31 2012 18:33 GMT
#54
I used to play exclusively on a touchpad and laptop keyboard via a MBP, but now I have a 27" imac with a deathadder and blackwidow, I was low masters at my best with that setup.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 18:44:49
July 31 2012 18:35 GMT
#55
On August 01 2012 03:18 DashedHopes wrote:
I used a mac till i got to about mid masters. I was low masters and since the lag on this old peice of shit wouldn't allow me play late game battles past 150 supply so it was time for an upgrade. I hated macs so i got a pc and now i am high masters


So really what you're saying is you upgraded to a newer computer in order to play late game battles...

On August 01 2012 02:53 Belial88 wrote:
But it is the truth... When none of the pro gamers use Mac, there's a reason. It's not just some coincidence. Mac doesn't sponsor shit. Dell is the only PC company that comes close to, with Alienware, but really, all the sponsors are computer components.

If you want the fastest computer possible, and the best computer possible, or even the best valued computer possible, you are going to build a custom PC. I'm not saying Windows is the answer, you can use ubuntu or a virtual machine, that's fine, whatever, but the answer is definitely not a Mac. It's just good hardware that's completely overpriced. It isn't enough performance for the pros, and it's too expensive to justify. Why buy a $3000 mac desktop when you can literally get an i7 with a top of the line GPU for the same price?

Laptops, are a totally different animal, so I am not talking about laptops, by the way.


If it's a question of sponsorship, I feel like you're going off in a different direction. And we're talking about computers, so laptops are included...

It seems like its coming down to a question of opinion rather than actual facts so I'll just say this:

Yes you can build a custom PC with better specs for much less money than buying a Mac. You can also buy a pre-built PC for generally less money than buying a Mac. In my experience, I would rather spend more money on buying a Mac than building or buying, even if I couldn't get the exact high-end specs I wanted. I save myself a headache, and I have a great computer which will do everything I need with ease. The design, quality of the product, and overall performance is important to me, and I've never had any issues, gaming or otherwise, with my MacBook Pro, or any Mac I've used.
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Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
July 31 2012 18:37 GMT
#56
i game on a mac, and it's pretty awful.
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never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
July 31 2012 18:40 GMT
#57
it is fine if you use mac, there isnt anything wrong about the hardware as long as you feel comfortable and the game runs at full FPS.
Im high master using mac and honestly it dosen´t make a diference to me
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fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
July 31 2012 18:44 GMT
#58
People need to start specifying what computer exactly they refer to when they say Mac. Saying "I used to own a Mac and it was awful" says nothing about anything, it could mean an iBook G4 or it could mean one of the new retina MacBook Pros
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
July 31 2012 18:52 GMT
#59
Short answer, no. Long answer, hells to the fuck no. Macs are trash for gaming + Show Spoiler +
(and IMO everything but this is not the place for that).


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DongLongJohnson
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany143 Posts
July 31 2012 18:55 GMT
#60
Mac HAHA! Nice joke! Apple products are overprices casualshit.

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