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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
July 29 2012 13:36 GMT
#61
I think the metric to take is quite simple. You take the best performing player terran, and he's the gold card. problem solved .

Oh it's gumiho what a coincidence !

Considering all the trouble terran have since the patch, it's nice to see a terran managing to prove his race isn't weak.
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Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 29 2012 13:55 GMT
#62
Thorzain clearly the only counter to Gumiho

Grats to CoCa!
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#63
yeah hes a boss for sure! and top3 is zergs
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 29 2012 14:25 GMT
#64
Sniper really showed his strength recently... 7-1 is very impressive, and the same could be said for Life who also (more or less) came out of nowhere.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
July 29 2012 15:26 GMT
#65
On July 29 2012 21:58 Bagration wrote:
Wait, what? Is this the MVP Gold Card? Wasn't that reserved only for a player on the championship team? Or is this article simply stating that Coca got the most wins and was simply an acknowledgement?

Basically is Coca getting an award, or just a tip of the hat?

I'll be honest. The article just said golden card. I'm not sure if they meant that CoCa got the MVP golden card or if they meant something else
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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
July 29 2012 15:39 GMT
#66
10-2=8 so symbol is the winner,
everybody else has 7 or lower.
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 29 2012 15:43 GMT
#67
All this talk about who is the most impressive...

I think it's hard to say that the first Finals All-Kill is not the most impressive plus four additional kills. But it goes to the person with the most wins, so CoCa deserved it. I doubt that GuMiho and FXO are all that disappointed haha.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 29 2012 15:46 GMT
#68
On July 29 2012 09:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
What a misusage of statistics.

10-2 should be seen as +8 wins and 11-4 as +7. Total amount of wins is a useless statistic in a league where not everyone plays the same amount.

(For whoever said 7-1 should be better than 11-4 I don't think you can defend that with logic and uphold a normal ranking. By most reasoning you would end up with 2-0 beating both those scores.)

Korea has always used number of wins as their metric of deciding who is the 'best' player (using differential to break the any ties if necessary). This has also pissed me off because I recall one season when Flash was not the PL MVP because he had 2 or so less wins than someone (Bisu/Jaedong, I forget) but had only played 1/3 of the games.
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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 29 2012 15:56 GMT
#69
On July 29 2012 22:36 kubiks wrote:
I think the metric to take is quite simple. You take the best performing player terran, and he's the gold card. problem solved .

Oh it's gumiho what a coincidence !

Considering all the trouble terran have since the patch, it's nice to see a terran managing to prove his race isn't weak.


Seriously? Race balance in this thread?

And I'm pretty sure Taeja already did it.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 16:01:16
July 29 2012 15:58 GMT
#70
On July 29 2012 09:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
What a misusage of statistics.

10-2 should be seen as +8 wins and 11-4 as +7. Total amount of wins is a useless statistic in a league where not everyone plays the same amount.

(For whoever said 7-1 should be better than 11-4 I don't think you can defend that with logic and uphold a normal ranking. By most reasoning you would end up with 2-0 beating both those scores.)

I agree that the victory spread would be a better system, but overall there is simply not enough of an incentive to develop a proper ranking system for a very rapidly changing game which is very entertainment-oriented. That means that don't really have an issue with tourneys setting their own arbitrary criteria for honour prizes.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
July 29 2012 18:22 GMT
#71
The arguments this thread has brought....

I did not foresee this O_o;;
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