• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:45
CEST 22:45
KST 05:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed18Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me) Who will win EWC 2025? Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Crumbl Cookie Spoilers – August 2025 The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soulkey Muta Micro Map? BW General Discussion [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier CSL Xiamen International Invitational Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 715 users

CoCa is #1 in the GSTL - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
July 29 2012 13:36 GMT
#61
I think the metric to take is quite simple. You take the best performing player terran, and he's the gold card. problem solved .

Oh it's gumiho what a coincidence !

Considering all the trouble terran have since the patch, it's nice to see a terran managing to prove his race isn't weak.
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 29 2012 13:55 GMT
#62
Thorzain clearly the only counter to Gumiho

Grats to CoCa!
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#63
yeah hes a boss for sure! and top3 is zergs
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 29 2012 14:25 GMT
#64
Sniper really showed his strength recently... 7-1 is very impressive, and the same could be said for Life who also (more or less) came out of nowhere.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
July 29 2012 15:26 GMT
#65
On July 29 2012 21:58 Bagration wrote:
Wait, what? Is this the MVP Gold Card? Wasn't that reserved only for a player on the championship team? Or is this article simply stating that Coca got the most wins and was simply an acknowledgement?

Basically is Coca getting an award, or just a tip of the hat?

I'll be honest. The article just said golden card. I'm not sure if they meant that CoCa got the MVP golden card or if they meant something else
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
July 29 2012 15:39 GMT
#66
10-2=8 so symbol is the winner,
everybody else has 7 or lower.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 29 2012 15:43 GMT
#67
All this talk about who is the most impressive...

I think it's hard to say that the first Finals All-Kill is not the most impressive plus four additional kills. But it goes to the person with the most wins, so CoCa deserved it. I doubt that GuMiho and FXO are all that disappointed haha.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 29 2012 15:46 GMT
#68
On July 29 2012 09:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
What a misusage of statistics.

10-2 should be seen as +8 wins and 11-4 as +7. Total amount of wins is a useless statistic in a league where not everyone plays the same amount.

(For whoever said 7-1 should be better than 11-4 I don't think you can defend that with logic and uphold a normal ranking. By most reasoning you would end up with 2-0 beating both those scores.)

Korea has always used number of wins as their metric of deciding who is the 'best' player (using differential to break the any ties if necessary). This has also pissed me off because I recall one season when Flash was not the PL MVP because he had 2 or so less wins than someone (Bisu/Jaedong, I forget) but had only played 1/3 of the games.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 29 2012 15:56 GMT
#69
On July 29 2012 22:36 kubiks wrote:
I think the metric to take is quite simple. You take the best performing player terran, and he's the gold card. problem solved .

Oh it's gumiho what a coincidence !

Considering all the trouble terran have since the patch, it's nice to see a terran managing to prove his race isn't weak.


Seriously? Race balance in this thread?

And I'm pretty sure Taeja already did it.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 16:01:16
July 29 2012 15:58 GMT
#70
On July 29 2012 09:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
What a misusage of statistics.

10-2 should be seen as +8 wins and 11-4 as +7. Total amount of wins is a useless statistic in a league where not everyone plays the same amount.

(For whoever said 7-1 should be better than 11-4 I don't think you can defend that with logic and uphold a normal ranking. By most reasoning you would end up with 2-0 beating both those scores.)

I agree that the victory spread would be a better system, but overall there is simply not enough of an incentive to develop a proper ranking system for a very rapidly changing game which is very entertainment-oriented. That means that don't really have an issue with tourneys setting their own arbitrary criteria for honour prizes.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
July 29 2012 18:22 GMT
#71
The arguments this thread has brought....

I did not foresee this O_o;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 2v2 ProLeague S3
20:00
LB FINAL
ZZZero.O148
Liquipedia
RotterdaM Event
17:00
$100 Stream Ruble
RotterdaM913
Liquipedia
Epic.LAN
12:00
Epic.LAN 45 Playoffs Stage
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 913
SpeCial 101
BRAT_OK 96
CosmosSc2 76
JuggernautJason69
ForJumy 6
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 204
ZZZero.O 148
Aegong 49
yabsab 15
Stormgate
TKL 100
NightEnD13
Dota 2
qojqva4086
monkeys_forever403
canceldota83
League of Legends
Grubby4950
Counter-Strike
fl0m2615
Stewie2K725
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu557
Trikslyr108
Other Games
summit1g7804
tarik_tv1235
ToD328
Skadoodle168
Sick55
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2301
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• sitaska59
• printf 55
• HeavenSC 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21796
Other Games
• imaqtpie2653
• WagamamaTV185
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
13h 15m
Online Event
19h 15m
Esports World Cup
2 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
3 days
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.