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On July 28 2012 00:44 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 00:34 IshinShishi wrote:On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win. But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao. This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves. No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point. And you know this because? Pro players can spot things that we cannot. 2 gases at certain timings might mean certain builds to pros. The fact that MC did expand and the fact that there was no reason for him to lie about it makes me lean towards his answer.
It was a standard gas timing, could mean literally anything. Seed probably had a good read on the build, but there's no way he "saw" that there was going to be an expansion. I'm guessing it's probably a translation thing.
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I know this because I paid attention to the game, unlike some of you trying to disprove me without any shred of proof to hold on to, "lmao" indeed.The first thing Seed did with his probe was to put that proxy pylon down, he also didn't check the gas timing at all, he went straight for the harass, maybe he was sure it was a good build for the spectrum of possible builds that he knew MC could probably use(which is saying a lot), but saying that it was a response to an expo is stretching it.
Also, at first I thought it was just a translation issue too and was just gonna ask if he really meant that, then I just went with it god knows why.
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I'm really pleased for Seed. He seems like such a nice, polite guy and (although obviously somewhat difficult to interpret across languages) comes off as really funny too (and in clever ways).
Loving his new look as well, especially against the black IM uniform.
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seed, such a good manner champion. happy for him and his family that he can buy a house with his winnings soon. I think any one who can purchase a house at his age is successful. I mean... you'll always have a roof over your head that way. Love that he gives much respect to BW legends, the BOSS-TOSS himself, and supports his friends over at FXO. Woo!
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Such a horrible Photo , sorry!
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On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...
Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.
So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.
EDIT: Also TSL do not have a championship, Polt won GSL while on Prime. StarTale is the team missing, they have 1 GSL win from FruitDealer.
EDIT#2: Nevermind, forgot that FruitDealer was on TSL when he won.
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On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy... Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament. So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.
Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?
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On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy... Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament. So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined. EDIT: Also TSL do not have a championship, Polt won GSL while on Prime. StarTale is the team missing, they have 1 GSL win from FruitDealer.
Fruitdealer is the GSL champion for TSL, not for startale.
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On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy... Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament. So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined. Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League
Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.
In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.
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On July 28 2012 01:23 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy... Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament. So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined. EDIT: Also TSL do not have a championship, Polt won GSL while on Prime. StarTale is the team missing, they have 1 GSL win from FruitDealer. Fruitdealer is the GSL champion for TSL, not for startale.
Ah, forgot, I was under the impression he joined StarTale before TSL for some reason, my mistake.
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Loved the replay after game one, stuff like that warp prism micro gets missed so easily.
Hopefully HotS is out before the next PvP finals though!
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On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.
umm are u thinking of game 1?
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Thanks Sw!!!
LG-IMSeed:FXO should win since they have Leenock who I think is the best Zerg ever.
Wow, that's a strong statement. Someone else said something similar (in WCS winner interviews or something? don't remember) so Leenock must be even better in practice than he is already in public. Good to see, he always was a talent.
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Tbh, Seed shoulv'de dyed his eyebrows too :s Anyway, awesome finals and well done by Seed! Been a fan of him since day #1 he appeared on GSTL. Even chatted with lots of twitter, nice guy and really cares about his fans. You all should tweet him stuff :p
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On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy... Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament. So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined. Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_LeagueNot sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high. In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.
Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.
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I liked his speech that he gave he did this for gaming and not like most for money, felt like some sort of burn also towards MC standing there. But I don't know if it was that or just generally speaking!
Congratulations Seed!
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IM won over half of the gsl code s coool! LG must be glad sponsors such a team.
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FXO should win since they have Leenock who I think is the best Zerg ever.
interesting opinion by seed 
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On July 28 2012 01:54 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion TSL - 1 Prime - 1 NSHS - 1 MVP - 1 oGs - 2 Slayers - 2 Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy... Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament. So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined. Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_LeagueNot sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high. In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them. Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.
Sorry man, but imo Blizzard Cup was not a full tournament and shouldn't be counted as a real GSL win...
I know the definitions get kinda shady, that's why I also think special events should generally not be counted, only regular seasons (meaning Polt is not GSL champion and MVP having "only" three championships). Just my opinion of course, not saying MMA or Polt don't deserve it or anything.
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