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[Interview] 2012 GSL S3 CodeS Finals - Page 2

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kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
July 27 2012 15:17 GMT
#21
fuck ya seed

fuck ya IM

fuck ya liquibet

very well done, and i like seeds interviews, the way he responds is baller
IMMvp #1 :)
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 27 2012 15:18 GMT
#22
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.
Long live the King of Wings
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 27 2012 15:20 GMT
#23
Congratulations to seed and IM. Also tweeted congratulations to LG Korea, hope that helps.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 15:24:16
July 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#24
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.

If anything taking two gases is a sign that you're getting out enough tech to take and secure an expo. In PvP at least.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#25
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.

All answers were good but this one since that game was obviously a blind counter. Should just say that. It's a good cheese for that map though since blink builds aren't very common on it while early expansions are.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
July 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#26
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 27 2012 15:25 GMT
#27
On July 28 2012 00:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.

He had a proxy robo long before the nat went down in any case so still doesn't add up. Unless was gonna do a proxy colossus build if he didn't see an expo but that wouldn't make sense either.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 27 2012 15:26 GMT
#28
On July 28 2012 00:16 Fusilero wrote:
Not bad investment LG, 2 champions in rapid succssion and finals of IPL TAC3.

Yeah, 2 GSLs in a row, TAC3, good showing by Losira and First@MLG. LG should be pleased.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 15:26 GMT
#29
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 15:27 GMT
#30
On July 28 2012 00:26 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:16 Fusilero wrote:
Not bad investment LG, 2 champions in rapid succssion and finals of IPL TAC3.

Yeah, 2 GSLs in a row, TAC3, good showing by Losira and First@MLG. LG should be pleased.


And Yonghwa did well at HSC. With the way LosirA is playing, he definitely needs to get back to code S.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 27 2012 15:28 GMT
#31
On July 28 2012 00:25 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.

He had a proxy robo long before the nat went down in any case so still doesn't add up. Unless was gonna do a proxy colossus build if he didn't see an expo but that wouldn't make sense either.

He had the pylon down for the proxy but not the robo yet. After placing the pylon he sent that probe to scout what MC was doing and once he realised he was being greedy, he sent the probe back to drop the robo iirc.
Long live the King of Wings
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 27 2012 15:30 GMT
#32
On July 28 2012 00:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.

I just watched the game again and he didn't see anything except the 2 gas before cancelling his 2nd gas and building the proxy robo.

What I think he meant was that he saw that MC was going for a defensive, into expo build (I dunno, but DT expand builds seem to be pretty popular on that map) so maybe seeing the way MC was playing told him it was a build which was going towards an expo. Somehow... but it was still quite blind how he executed that build.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
GHSTxJet
Profile Joined January 2012
United States154 Posts
July 27 2012 15:32 GMT
#33
IMba
SuppySon
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
July 27 2012 15:32 GMT
#34
On July 27 2012 23:32 storywriter wrote:
LG-IMSeed
Jeong, Woo Seong handed out the prize so how did that feel?

I feel that it's common courtesy to face someone in the eyes when you talk to them but in this case, he was so good looking that it was a bit intimidating. I'm so happy to have had the chance to talk to Mr Jeong and shake his hand.


Hahahahaha, dem koreans man.
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 27 2012 15:34 GMT
#35
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
July 27 2012 15:35 GMT
#36
id say house in seoul must be atleast 300-400k, just guessing based on beijing.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
July 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#37
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


Much better. The black hair was so cool.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#38
On July 28 2012 00:34 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.


Maybe he was going for another proxy-Robo strategy? I believe that he placed down his gates after scouting the natural, so perhaps he didn't intend to go for a 4-gate WP.
Liquipedia"Expert"
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 15:44 GMT
#39
On July 28 2012 00:34 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.


And you know this because? Pro players can spot things that we cannot. 2 gases at certain timings might mean certain builds to pros. The fact that MC did expand and the fact that there was no reason for him to lie about it makes me lean towards his answer.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 27 2012 15:50 GMT
#40
Before the finals, I didn't pay much attention to this. However, once I had actually won and stood alongside Nestea and MVP, the realisation hit me. I'm extra happy about the fact that our team won the GSL twice in a row since LG Electronics started sponsoring us.


It better not be those screens that Mvp kept promoting in his interview about LG sponsoring IM. Did those screens give IM a Protoss champion?!
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