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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#1661
Lol just realized this kind of reminds me of the + Show Spoiler +
2PM and Jay Park controversary in Korea. Basically, Jay wanted to leave and go solo. Then they released something that Jay did something unmoral and unforgiving and was voted out of the group. A reason was never given to the fans.
sounds familiar, yeah?
Mmm, what to watch.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 18 2012 22:21 GMT
#1662
On July 19 2012 06:43 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 06:35 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 19 2012 06:30 zefreak wrote:
On July 19 2012 06:28 Lumi wrote:
On July 19 2012 06:14 zefreak wrote:
On July 19 2012 06:08 dsousa wrote:
On July 19 2012 06:03 zefreak wrote:
On July 19 2012 06:00 dsousa wrote:
On July 19 2012 05:56 Medrea wrote:
On July 19 2012 05:55 NaZa wrote:
[quote]
You made a new account JUST to say that!?


Make account on enthusiasts forum.

Tell them to stop using the forum.

norTmac.


Its very similar to Slayers/MMA situation.

Announce unprecedented punishment of a top SC2 star

Give no reason

Bash people who speculate as to the reason.


You did more than that, which is the whole problem. You posted a huge paragraph about 'what happened' and didn't even hint until the end in your TLDR that it was all speculation. You also drew conclusions and made condemnations as if your speculation was true. Notice how there are pages and pages of speculation by people who aren't getting shit because they don't pretend that they have inside info?


I'm sorry I duped you into thinking I had inside information, until the end of the "huge paragraph". I hope the extra reading you did won't cause you any long term harm.

<3


"Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do."

Yeah, it sure sounds like you are just speculating.

His point sounds like a fair one to me. It's a response to the conversation that has been going on about how professionally they are handling things.


It will be a fair point if the speculation he did is correct. Nobody knows if he was demoted because he wanted to switch teams. For all we know he stream cheated like some koreans have been known to do and was demoted for that. Or maybe he has an attitude problem. To just say 'I think its because of this' and then call the team unprofessional because hypothetically they acted wrong is stupid.


I agree with you. People bashing teams or players based on speculation is a really silly and pointless act. What`s worse is people presenting this as fact and not speculation. It just sounds to me people love this drama rather than wait and see what actually happened.

I see a lot of people saying we don`t need drama in the scene, but it seems to me the past few days a lot of people love this shit lol.


I'm bashing Slayers for NOT giving a reason for this.

IMO they need to explain how they can justify treating MMA like this. I can't just take it on faith that they are acting justifiably based on the severity and timing of the punishment. (Certainly not given their history with players leaving)

Everyone who is defending Slayers, is SPECULATING that they have a valid reason.

If they do, they most certainly should provide it. They've chosen not to.... IMO that reflects poorly on them.




o goodness me. Slayers absolutely owes it to YOU to explain why THEYRE contracted player is being punished. And tbh if it was unfair enough for people to whine about it MMA would be the first one doing it. Obviously its not an issue big enough that needs to go to the community to be solved. I dont see the problem..

Players in other sports get benched or demoted to b teams all the time for various reasons. They dont always explain them. They do other times but its a prerogative not an obligation.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 23:01:08
July 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#1663
the cultural difference between usa and korea is huge when it comes to effects of cyber trolling. trolls can ruin a person's life, therefore there's laws to protect people from trolls.

here's trolls/cyberbullies getting sentenced in korea
http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/tajinyo-members-receive-final-prison-sentences-093021922.html
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2012070938108

(defending jessica's attempt at fighting trolls)
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 18 2012 22:35 GMT
#1664
On July 19 2012 07:22 jinorazi wrote:
the cultural difference between usa and korea is huge when it comes to effects of cyber trolling. trolls can ruin a person's life, therefore there's laws to protect people from trolls.

here's trolls/cyberbullies getting sentenced in korea
http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/tajinyo-members-receive-final-prison-sentences-093021922.html


Reading this article is both refreshing yet scary. If it means in the long run it can mean clean campaigns being run for politics, i definitely support it. I'm so tired of smear campaigns every4 years here in the states... even the whole birth certificate fiasco a few years ago for our president... goddamn waste of time. Wonder what the republican platform will be run on if they can't fabricate half truths and lies.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
July 18 2012 23:04 GMT
#1665
On July 19 2012 07:35 Kazeyonoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 07:22 jinorazi wrote:
the cultural difference between usa and korea is huge when it comes to effects of cyber trolling. trolls can ruin a person's life, therefore there's laws to protect people from trolls.

here's trolls/cyberbullies getting sentenced in korea
http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/tajinyo-members-receive-final-prison-sentences-093021922.html


Reading this article is both refreshing yet scary. If it means in the long run it can mean clean campaigns being run for politics, i definitely support it. I'm so tired of smear campaigns every4 years here in the states... even the whole birth certificate fiasco a few years ago for our president... goddamn waste of time. Wonder what the republican platform will be run on if they can't fabricate half truths and lies.

A few years ago? There are *STILL* people spouting that crap.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 18 2012 23:07 GMT
#1666
On July 19 2012 08:04 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 07:35 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On July 19 2012 07:22 jinorazi wrote:
the cultural difference between usa and korea is huge when it comes to effects of cyber trolling. trolls can ruin a person's life, therefore there's laws to protect people from trolls.

here's trolls/cyberbullies getting sentenced in korea
http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/tajinyo-members-receive-final-prison-sentences-093021922.html


Reading this article is both refreshing yet scary. If it means in the long run it can mean clean campaigns being run for politics, i definitely support it. I'm so tired of smear campaigns every4 years here in the states... even the whole birth certificate fiasco a few years ago for our president... goddamn waste of time. Wonder what the republican platform will be run on if they can't fabricate half truths and lies.

A few years ago? There are *STILL* people spouting that crap.

Kinda sad, yeah. People would probably oppose this sort of law because of some misguided understanding of freedom of speech, though. Usually it's defended by using a slippery slope argument.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 18 2012 23:24 GMT
#1667
My opinion is that perhaps MMA was reaching out or was reached out to by a foreign team in private and management may have overreacted as a consequence of this... hoping they will work this out but it feels like MMA will ask to get bought out so he can move on.

Unlike BW, SC2 pros now do have the option of going overseas and signing up with a foreign team, an option which was impossible for bw pros. I guess that the allure of travelling overseas while getting a good salary and having a chance at winning foreign tournaments is just too much to pass up.
Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
July 18 2012 23:38 GMT
#1668
Liquid MMA
macrosogood
Profile Joined July 2012
4 Posts
July 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#1669
kk guys i think i know the reason lol.
A couple of months ago MMA made a blizzard article saying how OP protoss is. He was ranting so much saying blizzard messed up and stuff. He was complaing how he went 2-28 on the ladder and all those 28 lossed came from protoss. He said storms kill him so badly.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 18 2012 23:44 GMT
#1670
MMA is the only terran i regularly root for, I hope he returns to his awesome history of owning with a team that makes him happy!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 23:47:18
July 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#1671
Can we get some more fanfic MMA controversies?

I want something like MMA has some secret abilities and the Slayers zergs have been secretly conspiring to get him to switch to zerg so they can eventually get Boxer to switch too. But Boxer knows all about it and he abandoned MMA to the zergs. But now MMA is playing zerg in team tournaments and he's dominating, so that now only Puzzle can stop him from getting the entire team to switch to zerg.

...basically, the story of StarCraft 1 but with the SlayerS team.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 23:53:31
July 18 2012 23:52 GMT
#1672
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
July 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#1673
Liquid MMA? that sounds awesome!
♥ In Loda we trust ♥
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 19 2012 00:17 GMT
#1674
On July 19 2012 08:52 jinorazi wrote:
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?


Doesn't work unless Fantasy retires since he's the Crown Prince right?
kiss kiss fall in love
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
July 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#1675
On July 19 2012 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 08:52 jinorazi wrote:
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?


Doesn't work unless Fantasy retires since he's the Crown Prince right?


But he stayed behind while the emperor set out to create a new empire in the land of SC2, thus disowning fantasy.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 19 2012 00:31 GMT
#1676
On July 19 2012 09:24 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 19 2012 08:52 jinorazi wrote:
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?


Doesn't work unless Fantasy retires since he's the Crown Prince right?


But he stayed behind while the emperor set out to create a new empire in the land of SC2, thus disowning fantasy.


Or found himself not being able to hang anymore with the players and decided to call in a quit.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 19 2012 00:32 GMT
#1677
On July 19 2012 09:31 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:24 hunts wrote:
On July 19 2012 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 19 2012 08:52 jinorazi wrote:
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?


Doesn't work unless Fantasy retires since he's the Crown Prince right?


But he stayed behind while the emperor set out to create a new empire in the land of SC2, thus disowning fantasy.


Or found himself not being able to hang anymore with the players and decided to call in a quit.


This doesn't really make sense..
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polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 19 2012 00:32 GMT
#1678
"@crank832: Wow, so flabbergasted as soon as I wake up...

@SlayerSRyung: Seriously? Such ridiclousness as soon as I get up?"

Caught doing it. Only thing I can imagine.

User was warned for this post
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
July 19 2012 00:32 GMT
#1679
On July 19 2012 09:24 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 19 2012 08:52 jinorazi wrote:
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?


Doesn't work unless Fantasy retires since he's the Crown Prince right?


But he stayed behind while the emperor set out to create a new empire in the land of SC2, thus disowning fantasy.

The emporer was too old and weak to hold his own in his first empire, leaving that one to his crown prince, and so set out to preside over a gentler, more forgiving empire. But now the prodigal son is soon to return...
I could spend a while with that smile
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 19 2012 00:36 GMT
#1680
On July 19 2012 09:32 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:31 Xiphos wrote:
On July 19 2012 09:24 hunts wrote:
On July 19 2012 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 19 2012 08:52 jinorazi wrote:
Romance of The Three Terrans

Who will be chosen and reign after the death of Emperor Yim? The rivalry between the princes for the crown is heating up. They have already conspired and slayed Taeja and Ganzi. MMA, Ryung, and Clide are the remaining terrans with new born prince Lots neglected. How will they over come each other and claim the crown for themselves?

will MMA be the next to fall?


Doesn't work unless Fantasy retires since he's the Crown Prince right?


But he stayed behind while the emperor set out to create a new empire in the land of SC2, thus disowning fantasy.


Or found himself not being able to hang anymore with the players and decided to call in a quit.


This doesn't really make sense..


Sure it does, BoxeR hasn't been send out except vs Killer and didn't make it pass OSL/MSL pre-rounds.

Barely being able to get screen times.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
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