EPTMMA demoted to B-Team, wants to join foreign team? - Page 72
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
The strange thing to me is that he didn't accept his punishment, which means he thinks whatever he did was not bad enough to be punished for (i.e. drugs, cheating, physical violence and such can probably be ruled out). But it's severe enough that they take these extreme measures, and he is still on speaking terms (?) with Jessica, which I also find interesting. My personal guess is that he had some kind of altercation with a fellow member and wouldn't let it go. Based on his reactions, I think this is more likely to be something that's been brewing over time, rather than a one-time severe incident. | ||
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BlindKill
Australia1508 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:12 Cel.erity wrote: The suspense is killing me, what is this huge mystery? I want to hear real guesses, not speculation about him sleeping with Jessica and crap like that. The strange thing to me is that he didn't accept his punishment, which means he thinks whatever he did was not bad enough to be punished for (i.e. drugs, cheating, physical violence and such can probably be ruled out). But it's severe enough that they take these extreme measures, and he is still on speaking terms (?) with Jessica, which I also find interesting. My personal guess is that he had some kind of altercation with a fellow member and wouldn't let it go. Based on his reactions, I think this is more likely to be something that's been brewing over time, rather than a one-time severe incident. Though I don't like much speculating, I find this interesting. And how he looked at the end of the serie, not looking that happy though he won, makes me feeling this could be some valid explanations... They really should make a statement. Just so it dismiss all speculations and establish some facts... | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:15 BlindKill wrote: a real guess would be that korean team houses have internal ladder rankings and MMA dropped below the minimum, jessica doing it by the book and MMA is pissed I doubt he would be forced to leave the house in this case, and that would be a long time in the works. Crank and Ryung were shocked right as they woke up, they said. Oh well, this explanation is about as plausible as any of the rest so far. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:15 BlindKill wrote: a real guess would be that korean team houses have internal ladder rankings and MMA dropped below the minimum, jessica doing it by the book and MMA is pissed I doubt it. If that were the case I don't see why Ryung or Crank would be shocked at the decision. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:18 S_SienZ wrote: I doubt it. If that were the case I don't see why Ryung or Crank would be shocked at the decision. There's a possibility that Ryung and Crank were shocked at MMA's reaction ya know. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:19 pdd wrote: There's a possibility that Ryung and Crank were shocked at MMA's reaction ya know. Yep. The tweets especially aren't confirming anything about "what" made them react... | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:19 pdd wrote: There's a possibility that Ryung and Crank were shocked at MMA's reaction ya know. They could also have been shocked when they saw Min running naked through the corridor. Exactly. Speculation. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
It just doesn't add up. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
According to press materials released by SlayerS on the 17th of this month, MMA has been demoted to the SlayerS B-team removed from the team house. This measure initiated on the 16th of this month, while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue. Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience. | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:23 Malaz wrote: Whatever lead to the decision to demote him to B-team and cut him from the team house, the way the slayer managment handled/handles this situation is just so bad. What a PR-disaster, it's just normal that people are speculating now. SlayerS didn't handle it very badly. It was actually handled very normally. We're all just idiots.  | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:19 pdd wrote: There's a possibility that Ryung and Crank were shocked at MMA's reaction ya know. Possibly, but remember Crank also changed his twitter to non-SlayerS, like MMA did. Well someone beat me to that @@ | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:21 lichter wrote: They could also have been shocked when they saw Min running naked through the corridor. Exactly. Speculation. No wonder MMA was pissed. Mystery solved "I can't fucking practice with all these naked Zergs running around! I'm leaving this damn house!" | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Much better than some blank demotion out of nowhere. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:24 Ansinjunger wrote: Possibly, but remember Crank also changed his twitter to non-SlayerS, like MMA did. Keep in mind that SlayerS isn't a zerg hivemind, one of them could have been shocked at MMA's reaction, the other could have been shocked at the decision, etc. On July 18 2012 20:25 Nekovivie wrote: Rather than leaving it open to speculation, they could just say "Due to personal issues, MMA has been removed...." Much better than some blank demotion out of nowhere. They did though, they said it was an internal issue with the team. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:22 MVega wrote: After thinking about it for 30~ hours I'd just like to point out that SlayerS didn't actually make a big deal out of it. The article states this: All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue. Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience. They would have confirmed then, if it was only about some team management. And MMA wouldn't be contesting about what is called a "punishment"... | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:22 MVega wrote: After thinking about it for 30~ hours I'd just like to point out that SlayerS didn't actually make a big deal out of it. The article states this: All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue. Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience. Golden wasn't shamed at all, as far as I'm aware. He even wrote a letter about how much he loved SlayerS | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On July 18 2012 20:26 Ragnarork wrote: They would have confirmed then, if it was only about some team management. And MMA wouldn't be contesting about what is called a "punishment"... Not really. If they made a change to the team, included it as part of press materials and as a footnote added "Due to an internal issue with the team." that would be pretty standard practice as far as teams (Actual sports teams do this from time to time as well.) go. I didn't say that MMA wasn't being punished, I just said that SlayerS wasn't shaming him. | ||
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