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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
July 18 2012 11:31 GMT
#1441
On July 18 2012 20:25 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:21 lichter wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:19 pdd wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:18 S_SienZ wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:15 BlindKill wrote:
a real guess would be that korean team houses have internal ladder rankings and MMA dropped below the minimum, jessica doing it by the book and MMA is pissed

I doubt it. If that were the case I don't see why Ryung or Crank would be shocked at the decision.

There's a possibility that Ryung and Crank were shocked at MMA's reaction ya know.


They could also have been shocked when they saw Min running naked through the corridor.

Exactly. Speculation.


No wonder MMA was pissed. Mystery solved

"I can't fucking practice with all these naked Zergs running around! I'm leaving this damn house!"

But MMA didn't want to leave....

OH DEAR GOD
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 18 2012 11:32 GMT
#1442
On July 18 2012 20:28 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:22 MVega wrote:
After thinking about it for 30~ hours I'd just like to point out that SlayerS didn't actually make a big deal out of it. The article states this:

According to press materials released by SlayerS on the 17th of this month, MMA has been demoted to the SlayerS B-team removed from the team house. This measure initiated on the 16th of this month, while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team


All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue.

Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience.


Golden wasn't shamed at all, as far as I'm aware. He even wrote a letter about how much he loved SlayerS


If I remember right (and I've displayed repeatedly that I usually don't T_T ) Dragon was shamed, Golden was not. It's really hard to compare this situation with that, however. Jessica really botched that one.
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NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
July 18 2012 11:32 GMT
#1443
Interview is up. He said "I have nothing special to say besides today's match."
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
July 18 2012 11:33 GMT
#1444
On July 18 2012 20:28 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:22 MVega wrote:
After thinking about it for 30~ hours I'd just like to point out that SlayerS didn't actually make a big deal out of it. The article states this:

According to press materials released by SlayerS on the 17th of this month, MMA has been demoted to the SlayerS B-team removed from the team house. This measure initiated on the 16th of this month, while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team


All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue.

Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience.


Golden wasn't shamed at all, as far as I'm aware. He even wrote a letter about how much he loved SlayerS


I wasn't sure which one of them was, just that they left at the same time and there was all that twitter drama about backstabbing and such. Unless I'm mistaken?
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 18 2012 11:33 GMT
#1445
On July 18 2012 20:32 NHY wrote:
Interview is up. He said "I have nothing special to say besides today's match."


Was it Jessica with her MMA mask on?
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
July 18 2012 11:35 GMT
#1446
On July 18 2012 20:24 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:23 Malaz wrote:
Whatever lead to the decision to demote him to B-team and cut him from the team house, the way the slayer managment handled/handles this situation is just so bad. What a PR-disaster, it's just normal that people are speculating now.


SlayerS didn't handle it very badly. It was actually handled very normally.

We're all just idiots.


Well I have to disagree with you on this one.
What did the SlayerS managment expect? They just make a vague statement that they punish their best player and drop him from the team house and people wouldn't wonder why and would just accept that they will have their reasons to do so?

That's just not going to happen. You can argue that the fans don't have any right to know what really happened, but imo you can't expect the fans to get personal involved, cheer and support your players and then just don't care in a situation like this. Like it or not, e-sports - as every other professional sports - is part of the entertainment business and therefore fans are the most important part. Just imagine if Real Madrid would demote Ronaldo to their second team tomorrow without stating the reasons why. The newspapers would be full of speculations for days until the story gets out.
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
July 18 2012 11:35 GMT
#1447
On July 18 2012 20:32 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:28 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:22 MVega wrote:
After thinking about it for 30~ hours I'd just like to point out that SlayerS didn't actually make a big deal out of it. The article states this:

According to press materials released by SlayerS on the 17th of this month, MMA has been demoted to the SlayerS B-team removed from the team house. This measure initiated on the 16th of this month, while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team


All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue.

Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience.


Golden wasn't shamed at all, as far as I'm aware. He even wrote a letter about how much he loved SlayerS


If I remember right (and I've displayed repeatedly that I usually don't T_T ) Dragon was shamed, Golden was not. It's really hard to compare this situation with that, however. Jessica really botched that one.


That's why I made the comparisson, since people were talking about Slayers supposedly shaming MMA. Jessica totally botched that previous incident and that one player was definitely shamed. What's going on with MMA is completely different.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Mattidute
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
July 18 2012 11:35 GMT
#1448
On July 18 2012 20:33 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:28 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:22 MVega wrote:
After thinking about it for 30~ hours I'd just like to point out that SlayerS didn't actually make a big deal out of it. The article states this:

According to press materials released by SlayerS on the 17th of this month, MMA has been demoted to the SlayerS B-team removed from the team house. This measure initiated on the 16th of this month, while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team


All that really means is that they made an update to their A/B teams and it was reflected in their press materials. That's all it means. There could have been any number of things related to the team in the press materials and that could have just been one section. It doesn't necessarily mean that was the full extent of the press materials. But either way they didn't shame him .. Just stated that he was now on the B-team, not in the team house, and that it was due to an internal issue.

Shaming him would be doing what was done over Twitter when Golden and Dragon left the team. Obviously everyone, including Jessica, learned from that experience.


Golden wasn't shamed at all, as far as I'm aware. He even wrote a letter about how much he loved SlayerS


I wasn't sure which one of them was, just that they left at the same time and there was all that twitter drama about backstabbing and such. Unless I'm mistaken?



The backstabbing part was due to Dragon leaving SlayerS as he retired as a progamer only to very shortly afterwards join Millenium so Jessica saw Dragon as spineless that he didn't dare to just straight up tell her he wanted to leave SlayerS to join a foreign team (like Golden did which is why Jessica had 0 problems with Golden leaving).
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2012 11:37 GMT
#1449
On July 18 2012 20:31 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:25 Bagration wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:21 lichter wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:19 pdd wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:18 S_SienZ wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:15 BlindKill wrote:
a real guess would be that korean team houses have internal ladder rankings and MMA dropped below the minimum, jessica doing it by the book and MMA is pissed

I doubt it. If that were the case I don't see why Ryung or Crank would be shocked at the decision.

There's a possibility that Ryung and Crank were shocked at MMA's reaction ya know.


They could also have been shocked when they saw Min running naked through the corridor.

Exactly. Speculation.


No wonder MMA was pissed. Mystery solved

"I can't fucking practice with all these naked Zergs running around! I'm leaving this damn house!"

But MMA didn't want to leave....

OH DEAR GOD


Boxer: Goddamnit MMA! Stop oogling Miya! Goddamnit, why are the Zergs all fucking naked anyways?

Cella: Coca convinced them to all do it when he got back to the team house. Not going to lie, kid's been...off ever since we suspended him.

(from the Zerg room) Miya: Protoss OP!

Just a typical day in the Slayers house...

User was warned for this post
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 18 2012 11:37 GMT
#1450
http://leveltory.com/12236

MMA winner interview!

Translation please!
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#1451
On July 18 2012 20:32 NHY wrote:
Interview is up. He said "I have nothing special to say besides today's match."

Wow. What a let down. I guess they're trying to work things out behind closed doors, considering they seem to be rather close to each other. (judging by Cella being in MMA's booth).

It's strange though, how did TiG know that MMA wanted to look for a foreign team, if MMA is not really wanting to speak much now?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#1452
On July 18 2012 20:37 StarVe wrote:
http://leveltory.com/12236

MMA winner interview!

Translation please!


Fuck yeah! Juicy, juicy drama.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#1453
On July 18 2012 20:39 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:37 StarVe wrote:
http://leveltory.com/12236

MMA winner interview!

Translation please!


Fuck yeah! Juicy, juicy drama.


He doesnt mention anything except the game today.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
July 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#1454
On July 18 2012 20:37 Bagration wrote:
Boxer: Goddamnit MMA! Stop oogling Miya! Goddamnit, why are the Zergs all fucking naked anyways?

Cella: Coca convinced them to all do it when he got back to the team house. Not going to lie, kid's been...off ever since we suspended him.

(from the Zerg room) Miya: Protoss OP!

Just a typical day in the Slayers house...



My fucking sides are moving on their own.

Also, MMA interview up.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 18 2012 11:42 GMT
#1455
On July 18 2012 20:39 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:32 NHY wrote:
Interview is up. He said "I have nothing special to say besides today's match."

Wow. What a let down. I guess they're trying to work things out behind closed doors, considering they seem to be rather close to each other. (judging by Cella being in MMA's booth).

It's strange though, how did TiG know that MMA wanted to look for a foreign team, if MMA is not really wanting to speak much now?


TiG also didn't show the official Team Press Materials, so we don't know what was really said by SlayerS (direct quotations?). All we're going on is a translation of a news article on a website that's blown things out of proportion before, based on supposed press materials supposedly released by the team.

TiG might be making most of this stuff up -_-''
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 18 2012 11:42 GMT
#1456
Yeah, in the interview it seems he doesn't want to mention the drama...
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herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
July 18 2012 11:43 GMT
#1457
Either MMA has to bite the bullet and stay in B-Team, or he has to reveal what happened. I doubt a foreigner team will let MMA onto their team without knowing what got him kicked out.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 18 2012 11:43 GMT
#1458
what a bummer
Stork[gm]
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 18 2012 11:43 GMT
#1459
MMA said other than today's match he has nothing special to say. In addition, he said the supportive words of all his fans, especially foreign fans, makes him want to work harder and post better results (typical korean line).
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 18 2012 11:44 GMT
#1460
On July 18 2012 20:42 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:39 pdd wrote:
On July 18 2012 20:32 NHY wrote:
Interview is up. He said "I have nothing special to say besides today's match."

Wow. What a let down. I guess they're trying to work things out behind closed doors, considering they seem to be rather close to each other. (judging by Cella being in MMA's booth).

It's strange though, how did TiG know that MMA wanted to look for a foreign team, if MMA is not really wanting to speak much now?


TiG also didn't show the official Team Press Materials, so we don't know what was really said by SlayerS (direct quotations?). All we're going on is a translation of a news article on a website that's blown things out of proportion before, based on supposed press materials supposedly released by the team.

TiG might be making most of this stuff up -_-''

You'd think SlayerS, and particularly Jessica wouldn't be taking an issue with false reporting from such a notable Korean esports website?
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