EPT[MLG] Summer Arena Details - Page 2
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:46 Xacez wrote: For some reason I would expect an American tournament to focus on players from America, but as it turns out I would be wrong. So you want to see worse games? | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
actually I'm glad, kid needs a break from all that traveling. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote: So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG but this is the weakest line up of players yet Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin. People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens. Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process. What do you want MLG to do, just constantly invite the same two guys? Honestly, that was a big complaint about their format before and they changed it. It's a product of the difficult Korean field. Be excited that there are so many good players able to challenge others. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote: So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG buat this is the weakest line up of players yet Depending on dropouts and such they may get seeded further into the open bracket. What is mlg supposed to do here dude? They are skipping MLG, they cant just bend the rules for DRG. Taeja is in the round of 8 and is going to the arena. Its not impossible. And even though this is there "weakest lineup yet" it still smashes pretty much every other tournaments line up. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:53 Hot_Bid wrote: Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin. People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens. Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process. What do you want MLG to do, just constantly invite the same two guys? Honestly, that was a big complaint about their format before and they changed it. It's a product of the difficult Korean field. Be excited that there are so many good players able to challenge others. Well mkp and drg were qualified cause top 8 at Anaheim. Not sure where symbol finished | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:53 Hot_Bid wrote: Hot bid I love you, but the thing is DRG and MKP were qualified for the arena but cant attend because of GSL and OSL. I was saying these guys qualified and can't go because they are playing in two better tournaments. I understand you are mad because Taeja and Hero are in it an I said I was a weak field, and yes they are probably two of the favorites, but it's weaker than normal.Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin. People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens. Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process. | ||
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A-p-p-l-e-s
Canada314 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:53 Hot_Bid wrote: Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin. People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens. Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process. What do you want MLG to do, just constantly invite the same two guys? Honestly, that was a big complaint about their format before and they changed it. It's a product of the difficult Korean field. Be excited that there are so many good players able to challenge others. They were qualified, but couldn't make to Arena due to conflicts. As the result they'd have to go through open brackets if they want attend Championship. | ||
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Etox
Denmark3 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:54 jmbthirteen wrote: Depending on dropouts and such they may get seeded further into the open bracket. What is mlg supposed to do here dude? They are skipping MLG, they cant just bend the rules for DRG. Taeja is in the round of 8 and is going to the arena. Its not impossible. And even though this is there "weakest lineup yet" it still smashes pretty much every other tournaments line up. 2 arenas like last time? Im not mad at MLG, I'm just saying its stupid how 2 out of the top 3 of your spring champs. Will be in open next event | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
The arenas take too much time off the very top players. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:59 Etox wrote: What about MC? Same as DRG, Symbol, MKP. They have other tournaments they are playing in | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:59 TommyP wrote: 2 arenas like last time? Im not mad at MLG, I'm just saying its stupid how 2 out of the top 3 of your spring champs. Will be in open next event Well then... I guess it's their own fault for going somewhere else instead? If somebody didn't attend GSL, they'd have to requalify as well. If a team leaves a sports league and re-enters a year later, they have to go all the way back to the top by playing, there's no invites to that and that's fine with me. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:59 Etox wrote: What about MC? OSL on 23rd | ||
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jobber123rd
United States501 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:53 neoghaleon55 wrote: no DRG... actually I'm glad, kid needs a break from all that traveling. His team's GSTL Ro4 match conflicts with the Arena, and I suppose he'd rather make the WCS Korea Finals (if he can) than go to Raleigh anyway. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 11 2012 03:00 neoghaleon55 wrote: I think if you got top 4 in the previous championship, you should be invited to the next championship. The arenas take too much time off the very top players. Us DRG fans are sad  | ||
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