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[MLG] Summer Arena Details - Page 2

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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 10 2012 17:49 GMT
#21
Go go Puma and qxc!
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
July 10 2012 17:49 GMT
#22
Sasquatch fighting.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#23
How did these Na invites come about?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 17:54:01
July 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#24
On July 11 2012 02:46 Xacez wrote:
For some reason I would expect an American tournament to focus on players from America, but as it turns out I would be wrong.

So you want to see worse games?
#TheOneTrueDong
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 10 2012 17:53 GMT
#25
no DRG...
actually I'm glad, kid needs a break from all that traveling.
moo...for DRG
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 17:55:28
July 10 2012 17:53 GMT
#26
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG but this is the weakest line up of players yet

Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin.

People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens.

Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process.

What do you want MLG to do, just constantly invite the same two guys? Honestly, that was a big complaint about their format before and they changed it. It's a product of the difficult Korean field. Be excited that there are so many good players able to challenge others.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 10 2012 17:54 GMT
#27
THANK YOU for making it free. Believe me, I would buy a pass if I could but that's pretty hard living outside of the US without a credit card.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 10 2012 17:54 GMT
#28
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG buat this is the weakest line up of players yet

Depending on dropouts and such they may get seeded further into the open bracket. What is mlg supposed to do here dude? They are skipping MLG, they cant just bend the rules for DRG. Taeja is in the round of 8 and is going to the arena. Its not impossible.

And even though this is there "weakest lineup yet" it still smashes pretty much every other tournaments line up.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 10 2012 17:56 GMT
#29
On July 11 2012 02:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG but this is the weakest line up of players yet

Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin.

People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens.

Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process.

What do you want MLG to do, just constantly invite the same two guys? Honestly, that was a big complaint about their format before and they changed it. It's a product of the difficult Korean field. Be excited that there are so many good players able to challenge others.

Well mkp and drg were qualified cause top 8 at Anaheim. Not sure where symbol finished
www.superbeerbrothers.com
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 10 2012 17:57 GMT
#30
On July 11 2012 02:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG but this is the weakest line up of players yet

Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin.

People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens.

Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process.
Hot bid I love you, but the thing is DRG and MKP were qualified for the arena but cant attend because of GSL and OSL. I was saying these guys qualified and can't go because they are playing in two better tournaments. I understand you are mad because Taeja and Hero are in it an I said I was a weak field, and yes they are probably two of the favorites, but it's weaker than normal.
#TheOneTrueDong
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
July 10 2012 17:58 GMT
#31
wish mlg would come to canada !
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 10 2012 17:58 GMT
#32
On July 11 2012 02:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG but this is the weakest line up of players yet

Wait it's my understanding that these guys were able to qualify for this Arena but just didn't get through the qualifiers right? The same thing happened with TSL qualifiers, what the public perceives as "best" might be true if they played 100 games, but the line dividing top tier and "next best" is very very thin.

People tend to forget that StarCraft is a much more non-static field than traditional games, favorites win 70% of the time is good. In these super competitive fields upsets happen. DRG and MKP haven't qualified for TSL either despite playing multiple times in the qualifiers. It happens.

Claiming a field of players who actually beat those guys is "weak" is just irresponsible. Yeah, they might have the same name recognition as the three you listed (debatable for Symbol) but to say the field is strong or weak based on the presence of just one or two players who have more name value is not fair at all to MLG or the players who went through a very difficult Korean qualification process.

What do you want MLG to do, just constantly invite the same two guys? Honestly, that was a big complaint about their format before and they changed it. It's a product of the difficult Korean field. Be excited that there are so many good players able to challenge others.


They were qualified, but couldn't make to Arena due to conflicts. As the result they'd have to go through open brackets if they want attend Championship.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Etox
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark3 Posts
July 10 2012 17:59 GMT
#33
What about MC?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 10 2012 17:59 GMT
#34
On July 11 2012 02:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG buat this is the weakest line up of players yet

Depending on dropouts and such they may get seeded further into the open bracket. What is mlg supposed to do here dude? They are skipping MLG, they cant just bend the rules for DRG. Taeja is in the round of 8 and is going to the arena. Its not impossible.

And even though this is there "weakest lineup yet" it still smashes pretty much every other tournaments line up.

2 arenas like last time? Im not mad at MLG, I'm just saying its stupid how 2 out of the top 3 of your spring champs. Will be in open next event
#TheOneTrueDong
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 10 2012 18:00 GMT
#35
I think if you got top 4 in the previous championship, you should be invited to the next championship.
The arenas take too much time off the very top players.
moo...for DRG
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 10 2012 18:01 GMT
#36
On July 11 2012 02:59 Etox wrote:
What about MC?

Same as DRG, Symbol, MKP. They have other tournaments they are playing in
#TheOneTrueDong
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:02:31
July 10 2012 18:01 GMT
#37
On July 11 2012 02:59 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 02:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 11 2012 02:42 TommyP wrote:
So basically for summer championship, The best players in the world (DRG,mkp,symbol,etc) are going to have to play through open bracket just because they qualified for a more prestigious tournament and these guys didn't? I love MLG buat this is the weakest line up of players yet

Depending on dropouts and such they may get seeded further into the open bracket. What is mlg supposed to do here dude? They are skipping MLG, they cant just bend the rules for DRG. Taeja is in the round of 8 and is going to the arena. Its not impossible.

And even though this is there "weakest lineup yet" it still smashes pretty much every other tournaments line up.

2 arenas like last time? Im not mad at MLG, I'm just saying its stupid how 2 out of the top 3 of your spring champs. Will be in open next event


Well then... I guess it's their own fault for going somewhere else instead? If somebody didn't attend GSL, they'd have to requalify as well.
If a team leaves a sports league and re-enters a year later, they have to go all the way back to the top by playing, there's no invites to that and that's fine with me.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 10 2012 18:02 GMT
#38
On July 11 2012 02:59 Etox wrote:
What about MC?


OSL on 23rd
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
July 10 2012 18:03 GMT
#39
On July 11 2012 02:53 neoghaleon55 wrote:
no DRG...
actually I'm glad, kid needs a break from all that traveling.


His team's GSTL Ro4 match conflicts with the Arena, and I suppose he'd rather make the WCS Korea Finals (if he can) than go to Raleigh anyway.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 10 2012 18:03 GMT
#40
On July 11 2012 03:00 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I think if you got top 4 in the previous championship, you should be invited to the next championship.
The arenas take too much time off the very top players.

Us DRG fans are sad
#TheOneTrueDong
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