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On July 05 2012 23:21 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:20 Greggle wrote:On July 05 2012 23:15 FakeDeath wrote:On July 05 2012 23:11 Ccx55 wrote:
If Naniwa was the one who said that, this forum would be exploding in rage.
Oh, the double standards..
Anyway, great play by DRG. Well Naniwa has a history in BM-ing and also isn't that likeable compared to DRG. I don't care, I like Naniwa's attitude. When I play anything with friends or even friends of friends of friends we shit on each other and trash talk constantly. I wouldn't act any differently with the public watching. The correct response to someone trash talking you is to trash talk back or beat them, not to whine publicly. Except you know, naniwa whines publicly? He has been saying Koreans are against him and that zerg is op. And the queen buff actually cause protoss to have trouble. I mean seriously if he is terran I would agree, protoss?? Queens don't affect the P v Z match up, top protoss players agree. He is the only one who says it.
I don't think it quite compares to situations like Nestea's outrage when Naniwa said he did something idiotic, and I guarantee in every team house when someone loses a game they say "fuck this guy, fuck this unit" The only difference with Naniwa is that he acts the same around everyone rather than putting on a PR mask. I'm cool with that.
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On July 05 2012 22:52 Naniwa wrote:its ok, i know im the underdog  we will see how it goes.
You can do this naniwa!!
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On July 05 2012 23:24 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:21 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:20 Greggle wrote:On July 05 2012 23:15 FakeDeath wrote:On July 05 2012 23:11 Ccx55 wrote:
If Naniwa was the one who said that, this forum would be exploding in rage.
Oh, the double standards..
Anyway, great play by DRG. Well Naniwa has a history in BM-ing and also isn't that likeable compared to DRG. I don't care, I like Naniwa's attitude. When I play anything with friends or even friends of friends of friends we shit on each other and trash talk constantly. I wouldn't act any differently with the public watching. The correct response to someone trash talking you is to trash talk back or beat them, not to whine publicly. Except you know, naniwa whines publicly? He has been saying Koreans are against him and that zerg is op. And the queen buff actually cause protoss to have trouble. I mean seriously if he is terran I would agree, protoss?? Queens don't affect the P v Z match up, top protoss players agree. He is the only one who says it. So what? He is a top protoss player and his opinion carries exponentially more weight than anything you have to say.
So he is better then other top protoss players? I would say if we count numbers, all top protoss players agree that z v p isn't affected by queens. Protoss ladder players lose just because they are bad but they can't accept that fact so jump on the queen buff made zerg op train. Read interviews, all TOP players agree Z v P is not affected by queens. Only naniwa agrees with you.
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On July 05 2012 22:55 TheBamf wrote:
"GSTL and GSL are being held in Busan.
This is my one chance to be in both the individual and team leagues in my hometown Busan. I think this might be a first and last chance for me as a progamer. I want to win both leagues in style in my hometown. "
What, is he considering retiring or am I missing something? Seems like a weird comment given his sucess, so I am trying to pinpoint other factors.
unlikely that both the GSL and GSTL finals will be held in Busan again, perhaps
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On July 05 2012 23:08 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:52 Naniwa wrote:its ok, i know im the underdog we will see how it goes. we're all behind ya buddy
not all dude, go DRG
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On July 05 2012 22:52 Naniwa wrote:its ok, i know im the underdog we will see how it goes.
good luck it would be amazing to see you pull the upset.
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He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please.
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On July 05 2012 23:27 polyphonyEX wrote:
He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please.
Why so aggressive? Teamliquid is a place for opinions. You attacking posters isn't a opinion. Someone report please.
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The difference between naniwa's bm and someone like DRG/Stephano/MC is that the former is crazy serious about the game and tries really hard, so the same words coming from Naniwa would be taken way more seriously. He is not known for joking around and friendly BM, like DRG.
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On July 05 2012 23:26 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:24 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 23:21 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:20 Greggle wrote:On July 05 2012 23:15 FakeDeath wrote:On July 05 2012 23:11 Ccx55 wrote:
If Naniwa was the one who said that, this forum would be exploding in rage.
Oh, the double standards..
Anyway, great play by DRG. Well Naniwa has a history in BM-ing and also isn't that likeable compared to DRG. I don't care, I like Naniwa's attitude. When I play anything with friends or even friends of friends of friends we shit on each other and trash talk constantly. I wouldn't act any differently with the public watching. The correct response to someone trash talking you is to trash talk back or beat them, not to whine publicly. Except you know, naniwa whines publicly? He has been saying Koreans are against him and that zerg is op. And the queen buff actually cause protoss to have trouble. I mean seriously if he is terran I would agree, protoss?? Queens don't affect the P v Z match up, top protoss players agree. He is the only one who says it. So what? He is a top protoss player and his opinion carries exponentially more weight than anything you have to say. So he is better then other top protoss players? I would say if we count numbers, all top protoss players agree that z v p isn't affected by queens. Protoss ladder players lose just because they are bad but they can't accept that fact. Read interviews, all agree Z v P is not affected.
He is A top protoss player, one of the top 5 or 8 or so overall and the best foreigner protoss. The top players don't need to get together and agree on something before anyone says anything, I'm cool with them being unique and having differing opinions.
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On July 05 2012 23:28 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:27 polyphonyEX wrote:
He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please. Why so aggressive? Teamliquid is a place for opinions. You attacking posters isn't a opinion. Reported.
'shut up' isn't being aggressive. It's advice.
You don't know better than Naniwa, so don't presume you do. This is silly.
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The amount of shittalk in interviews have escalated since 2011 
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On July 05 2012 23:28 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:27 polyphonyEX wrote:
He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please. Why so aggressive? Teamliquid is a place for opinions. You attacking posters isn't a opinion. Someone report please.
You're derailing the thread. Someone report please.
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On July 05 2012 23:29 BlindKill wrote:The amount of shittalk in interviews have escalated since 2011
some people stand true to their beliefs a little too much I think
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It is not double standard because DRGs results shows he is the clear favorite. Say Naniwa was to play Destiny and he said the same thing as DRG, no one would think twice about it. But if Destiny said that about playing Naniwa, people would laugh at him. This doesn't mean it is double standard.
The funny thing he, Naniwa was talking shit about Jinro because making 'Ro4' was easier a year ago. But in competition, everything is relative. You could argue it is actually easier for foreigners NOW because of the infrastructure in place and Koreans being on foreign teams. You cannot just look at the technical game play aspect. That is like saying qualifying for an BW OSL now is a bigger acheivement then when Boxer winning it 10 years ago.
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On July 05 2012 23:29 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:28 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:27 polyphonyEX wrote:
He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please. Why so aggressive? Teamliquid is a place for opinions. You attacking posters isn't a opinion. Reported. 'shut up' isn't being aggressive. It's advice. You don't know better than Naniwa, so don't presume you do. This is silly.
Its being aggressive. Please choose your words wisely is a advice. And you probably don't understand what I am saying when I say other TOP protoss players say Z v P is not affected by queen buff. I even used the shift key for you bro.
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On July 05 2012 23:28 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:26 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:24 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 23:21 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:20 Greggle wrote:On July 05 2012 23:15 FakeDeath wrote:On July 05 2012 23:11 Ccx55 wrote:
If Naniwa was the one who said that, this forum would be exploding in rage.
Oh, the double standards..
Anyway, great play by DRG. Well Naniwa has a history in BM-ing and also isn't that likeable compared to DRG. I don't care, I like Naniwa's attitude. When I play anything with friends or even friends of friends of friends we shit on each other and trash talk constantly. I wouldn't act any differently with the public watching. The correct response to someone trash talking you is to trash talk back or beat them, not to whine publicly. Except you know, naniwa whines publicly? He has been saying Koreans are against him and that zerg is op. And the queen buff actually cause protoss to have trouble. I mean seriously if he is terran I would agree, protoss?? Queens don't affect the P v Z match up, top protoss players agree. He is the only one who says it. So what? He is a top protoss player and his opinion carries exponentially more weight than anything you have to say. So he is better then other top protoss players? I would say if we count numbers, all top protoss players agree that z v p isn't affected by queens. Protoss ladder players lose just because they are bad but they can't accept that fact. Read interviews, all agree Z v P is not affected. He is A top protoss player, one of the top 5 or 8 or so overall and the best foreigner protoss. The top players don't need to get together and agree on something before anyone says anything, I'm cool with them being unique and having differing opinions.
Top 10 sure, but not top 5, not with his PvZ
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If he looses 3-0 no shame in that. He will devote 100% of his time to PvZ now. Too bad Curious is the only TOP zerg on the team. Not sure how much July can play similar style as DRG. But I can see him and SaSe trying to find a new timing that can win him a map or 2.
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On July 05 2012 23:30 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:29 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 23:28 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:27 polyphonyEX wrote:
He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please. Why so aggressive? Teamliquid is a place for opinions. You attacking posters isn't a opinion. Reported. 'shut up' isn't being aggressive. It's advice. You don't know better than Naniwa, so don't presume you do. This is silly. Its being aggressive. Please choose your words wisely is a advice. And you probably don't understand what I am saying when I say other TOP protoss players say Z v P is not affected by queen buff. I even used the shift key for you bro.
Guess what? Naniwa is also a top protoss player. He can have his own opinion, too!
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On July 05 2012 23:32 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:30 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:29 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 23:28 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 23:27 polyphonyEX wrote:
He's entitled to his opinion. You're not a pro, so shut up please. Why so aggressive? Teamliquid is a place for opinions. You attacking posters isn't a opinion. Reported. 'shut up' isn't being aggressive. It's advice. You don't know better than Naniwa, so don't presume you do. This is silly. Its being aggressive. Please choose your words wisely is a advice. And you probably don't understand what I am saying when I say other TOP protoss players say Z v P is not affected by queen buff. I even used the shift key for you bro. Guess what? Naniwa is also a top protoss player. He can have his own opinion, too!
Yes he can. One protoss player = Naniwa against the words of All other top protoss players = players apart from naniwa. I would say I go with the rest. Thank you very much. I am glad we can agree. Thank you for not being aggressive. I like friendly conversations.
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