viOlet changed his twitter name from empireviolet to sc2violet, which in the past for many progamers has indicated leaving their team. i think it's safe to assume that viOlet has left empire. I wonder what team he'll join?
On July 02 2012 12:29 jmbthirteen wrote: Also, he may not even join a team. CSN John manages most of his stuff already. He may just go independent.
Actually, I am viOLet's personal manager and have been since November 2011 when he attended the CSN Training Camp. For those of you that don't know his story, I recommend watching this
To clear up any speculation, viOLet's contract has ended with Empire, and as of now he is a free agent. We are reviewing his opportunities for sponsorship, both with teams and as an independent.
I want it to be known that there is also a possibility that he re-signs with Empire. I will release a full statement when we have a better idea of his future plans.
Also, I want to state Empire has been a really awesome team for viOLet regardless if he re-signs or not. There is no problems or issues between viOLet and them.
Empire.StrangeR - head sc2 coordinator of Team Empire:
Contract of viOLet expired yesterday and he is free agent now. I was very surprise, when read Andrew's statement, but he had right to do it even without approvement with Team Empire. I supposed, if viOLet decided to leave, we must do official announcement, instead this rumors.
We are thinking about offering to viOLet new contract, but there are other possibilities to add new players in Team Empire. As Andrew told, there is a chance to resign contract with viOlet too, it will depend of both side wishes.
I want to emphasize, that there is no problems between Team Empire and viOlet. We are grateful to him for his great work and victories for Team Empire. We wish to him good luck and new victories!
It appears that viOlet will not re-sign with Empire, and that Empire has already found a player to replace viOlet. From EmpireStrangeR's twitter:
Good luck to my friend, @SC2viOLet, in search of a new home. The new player of Team Empire will be announced this week
hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
no he wont be on a team right now if he did leave empire or he would have changed it to example EGEmpire he probably just left he has not joined a team yet if he did leave
On July 02 2012 12:18 System42 wrote: no he wont be on a team right now if he did leave empire or he would have changed it to example EGEmpire he probably just left he has not joined a team yet if he did leave
On July 02 2012 12:18 System42 wrote: no he wont be on a team right now if he did leave empire or he would have changed it to example EGEmpire he probably just left he has not joined a team yet if he did leave
Or like many cases they were told not to till the team who picked them up was ready to release the information and make it public. Team frequently do that so not really sure why you would think it could only be he isn't on a team.
I'm pretty sure he won't be joining a Korean team. He's said he prefers to stay in the US and that he's only staying in Korea for as long as he stays in GSL/OSL. With his level of English, its very likely that he'll easily be able to get on a foreign team which pays him a salary. As far as I know, MVP don't really pay a salary (I might be mistaken, given the recent influx of sponsors for MVP).
hmm very interesting news. Liquid`viOLet? that would allow him to join a high profile team and still maintain the living conditions that he has grown accustomed to. coL.viOLet? nada recently retired and they have a team house in TX right?
Violet loves America and we love Violet. Don't want to see his results fall off so I hope not EG. The training house in Texas would be good for him. So I'll cheerleader for Complexity.
Violet is like a wet dream pickup for EG. Strong presence/ interest in the foreign scene, ability to win tournaments as shown recently in the arena, and an outgoing/ likeable/ marketable personality. If EG has the money available how can they not be courting him?
On July 02 2012 12:24 Looms wrote: hmm very interesting news. Liquid`viOLet? that would allow him to join a high profile team and still maintain the living conditions that he has grown accustomed to. coL.viOLet? nada recently retired and they have a team house in TX right?
actually, if it is true that viOLet left empire, coL seems like a very likely new team, considering he lives in texas, and they have the team house in texas.
On July 02 2012 12:16 RaiKageRyu wrote: what? contracts are usually a year and Violet joined early this year or so? So someone had to buy him out.
its quite possible that he signed a 6 month contract. Sure year long contracts are the norm, but not every contract is a year long. He joined back in January so its been 6 months.
On July 02 2012 12:27 knyttym wrote: Violet is like a wet dream pickup for EG. Strong presence/ interest in the foreign scene, ability to win tournaments as shown recently in the arena, and an outgoing/ likeable/ marketable personality. If EG has the money available how can they not be courting him?
Furthermore, who's a good Zerg player from EG? IdrA? Machine? LzGamer? They have JYP/HuK, PuMa/DeMusliM and lack a good Zerg.
On July 02 2012 12:29 jmbthirteen wrote: Also, he may not even join a team. CSN John manages most of his stuff already. He may just go independent.
He needs a team to cover expenses and give him a stable salary. CSN don't sponsor him, they just manage him.
Well, he needs a sponsor. I'm not sure if it's possible for viOLet to go the Grubby route and get sponsored by himself, but Grubby's shown it's possible. Especially the way CSN is developing him so well.
On July 02 2012 12:29 jmbthirteen wrote: Also, he may not even join a team. CSN John manages most of his stuff already. He may just go independent.
Actually, I am viOLet's personal manager and have been since November 2011 when he attended the CSN Training Camp. For those of you that don't know his story, I recommend watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePoF58pnPM
To clear up any speculation, viOLet's contract has ended with Empire, and as of now he is a free agent. We are reviewing his opportunities for sponsorship, both with teams and as an independent.
I want it to be known that there is also a possibility that he re-signs with Empire. I will release a full statement when we have a better idea of his future plans.
Also, I want to state Empire has been a really awesome team for viOLet regardless if he re-signs or not. There is no problems or issues between viOLet and them.
On July 02 2012 12:29 jmbthirteen wrote: Also, he may not even join a team. CSN John manages most of his stuff already. He may just go independent.
Actually, I am viOLet's personal manager and have been since November 2011 when he attended the CSN Training Camp. For those of you that don't know his story, I recommend watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePoF58pnPM
To clear up any speculation, viOLet's contract has ended with Empire, and as of now is a free agent. We are reviewing his opportunities for sponsorship both with teams and as an independent.
I want it to be known that there is also a possibility that he resigns with Empire. I will release a full statement when we have a better idea of his future plans.
Also, I want to state Empire has been a really awesome team for viOLet regardless if he resigns or not. There is no problems or issues between viOLet and them.
ah my bad, I knew it was one of the CSN guys, Thanks for the info.
On July 02 2012 12:47 csn_andrew wrote: To clear up any speculation, viOLet's contract has ended with Empire, and as of now is a free agent. We are reviewing his opportunities for sponsorship both with teams and as an independent.
I want it to be known that there is also a possibility that he resigns with Empire. I will release a full statement when we have a better idea of his future plans.
Also, I want to state Empire has been a really awesome team for viOLet regardless if he resigns or not. There is no problems or issues between viOLet and them.
thanks a lot for the clarification. i think this is what we were all assuming anyway, but thanks for the confirmation regardless.
probably should add this into the original post as well
I wouldn't say after playing on a non-korean team he would go back, I would guess it would be a bigger team that would pick him up but all them seem to have pretty Zerg heavy line ups. Like EG, Liquid, Fnatic all have mostly Zerg players already. I good guess would be absolute legends or some other smaller team with some money behind it because I think he deserves a big team and the money that comes with that because of his success and how hard he works.
OP should update with CSN Andrew's post. It's very important for that to be the first thing seen.
Anywho, I doubt he'll join a Korean team since he seems to love America so much. But I'm going to guess EG because they lack a Korean/really high level Zerg at the moment. At least until Idra rises again =)
On July 02 2012 13:04 McKTenor13 wrote: OP should update with CSN Andrew's post. It's very important for that to be the first thing seen.
Anywho, I doubt he'll join a Korean team since he seems to love America so much. But I'm going to guess EG because they lack a Korean/really high level Zerg at the moment. At least until Idra rises again =)
Safe bet seems complexity, but Empire seemed very good for him, and he seemed really happy with them. I think it's very likely he just signs back up with them.
Regardless, he ain't going anywhere. Maybe new team colors, but he'll always be the one color that matters, Zerg Purple.
GL Violet! Awesome player, very glad to see him doing well lately.
On July 02 2012 13:20 HappyTimePANDA wrote: I hope he ends up on a better team. He is one of my favorite players and his skill level was above Empire.
not really. Kas and Beastyqt are both really strong foreign terrans, and they just added VINES, a korean protoss.
Kas and Beastyqt are okay but nothing close to violet, lets be honest here
Violet's Code S after all. I'm hoping Root, but the which have the money to buy him and meet his needs (I'm assuming the guy who said that he wants to stay in US I correct), is probably Quantic or Complexity, and less probably EG and Liquid?
Probably just as much chance he just resigns with Empire. Then again Empire probably got him at a rate cheaper than what he might be currently worth given all the wins he got since signing with them.
If it's not Empire.Violet still I'll be surprised. Could be col has some spare Nada cash around though.
Liquid'Violet???? Would be super sick. I would love for him to join MVP again, but its highly unlikely he chooses a korean team (if he is leaving empire).
This looks like a case where both parties are willing to extend the contract but Violet wants more than Empire is willing to offer. So he makes it public by changing his twitter id and having his manager issue statements about the matter. All very standard stuff for any high profile business venture.
We'll see if they are able to generate enough public pressure for team Empire to pay up.
On July 02 2012 13:20 HappyTimePANDA wrote: I hope he ends up on a better team. He is one of my favorite players and his skill level was above Empire.
not really. Kas and Beastyqt are both really strong foreign terrans, and they just added VINES, a korean protoss.
Kas and Beastyqt are okay but nothing close to violet, lets be honest here
Its not fair to say that. violet was the strongest player on Empire. But he is not on whole another level than Kas and Beastyqt who have both beaten numerous Koreans.
For example in the EG Masters Cup league violet was only 11-12 (in games) for Empire. Kas was 13-13, Beastyqt 14-11. (edit: Happy was 14-10)
On July 02 2012 13:51 IAmMajiC wrote: I could see him going to Complexity with the whole ColMVP partnership.
Sorry, but the coL.MVP partnership's been over for awhile. Regardless, as much as I want a Korean Zerg on EG, and especially viOLet, I still feel that coL. will be a better choice for him.
Good luck viOLet, I hope you find a great team! And thanks Empire for helping him out.
On July 02 2012 12:52 FlukyS wrote: I wouldn't say after playing on a non-korean team he would go back, I would guess it would be a bigger team that would pick him up but all them seem to have pretty Zerg heavy line ups. Like EG, Liquid, Fnatic all have mostly Zerg players already. I good guess would be absolute legends or some other smaller team with some money behind it because I think he deserves a big team and the money that comes with that because of his success and how hard he works.
On July 02 2012 12:27 knyttym wrote: Violet is like a wet dream pickup for EG. Strong presence/ interest in the foreign scene, ability to win tournaments as shown recently in the arena, and an outgoing/ likeable/ marketable personality. If EG has the money available how can they not be courting him?
Furthermore, who's a good Zerg player from EG? IdrA? Machine? LzGamer? They have JYP/HuK, PuMa/DeMusliM and lack a good Zerg.
thats cooolld. although yeah, its kinda true that EG players seem to fall off the map after joining the team. Curse of EG anybody?
On July 02 2012 12:27 knyttym wrote: Violet is like a wet dream pickup for EG. Strong presence/ interest in the foreign scene, ability to win tournaments as shown recently in the arena, and an outgoing/ likeable/ marketable personality. If EG has the money available how can they not be courting him?
Furthermore, who's a good Zerg player from EG? IdrA? Machine? LzGamer? They have JYP/HuK, PuMa/DeMusliM and lack a good Zerg.
thats cooolld. although yeah, its kinda true that EG players seem to fall off the map after joining the team. Curse of EG anybody?
Idk bout falling off. Idra joined them in beta iirc, has had many good results (obviously lately terrible results). Puma is still having good results, won NASL S2 and makes deep runs in a lot of tournaments he plays in. Demuslim yeah he hasn't really ever shined to much sadly and huk won an MLG under EG iirc. Huk is doing bad though recently as well except he has also had a deep run in an MLG making top 6 or something before losing. Machine/lzgamer were obviously never top tier unfortunately and I wish Machine would because he's a boss.
On July 02 2012 12:27 knyttym wrote: Violet is like a wet dream pickup for EG. Strong presence/ interest in the foreign scene, ability to win tournaments as shown recently in the arena, and an outgoing/ likeable/ marketable personality. If EG has the money available how can they not be courting him?
Furthermore, who's a good Zerg player from EG? IdrA? Machine? LzGamer? They have JYP/HuK, PuMa/DeMusliM and lack a good Zerg.
thats cooolld. although yeah, its kinda true that EG players seem to fall off the map after joining the team. Curse of EG anybody?
Idk bout falling off. Idra joined them in beta iirc, has had many good results (obviously lately terrible results). Puma is still having good results, won NASL S2 and makes deep runs in a lot of tournaments he plays in. Demuslim yeah he hasn't really ever shined to much sadly and huk won an MLG under EG iirc. Huk is doing bad though recently as well except he has also had a deep run in an MLG making top 6 or something before losing. Machine/lzgamer were obviously never top tier unfortunately and I wish Machine would because he's a boss.
Seems like the perfect fit for him would be with coL w/ their teamhouse in Texas since he wants to stay in USA, and he's been living in Texas. Besides, I think coL players can still stay in the MVP house, and he's friends with all those guys
Violet's gone from a guy no one wanted when he went to Empire to one of the best players in the world who's recognisable to foreign fans and has good English skills.
It's obvious he can get a much better deal now than he did when he signed with Empire.
TeamGrubby Violet. It's said! XD I honestly think millenium because of the probable EGStephano incoming they will need a good zerg to replace. we will see though, after all i dont think anything is certain yet.
On July 02 2012 18:29 Lorch wrote: I hope he stays teamless and just lets CSN manage all his stuff, we need more independent players.
But a company won't sponsor a single player, if they could sponsor a whole team of strong players unless the single one is really exceptional. But viOlet isn't quite there yet!
He will definately have to join a team and it won't be a korean one, since he seems to have high monetary expectations.
Seriously though, I think he's been growing a lot under the Empire banner. I guess this is the common view among foreigners who didn't follow him before. For me it doesn't matter if he joins a new team or goes solo, as long as he gets the sponsorship he needs to keep killing nerds at tournaments while wearing a mouth mask.
On July 02 2012 18:29 Lorch wrote: I hope he stays teamless and just lets CSN manage all his stuff, we need more independent players.
But a company won't sponsor a single player, if they could sponsor a whole team of strong players unless the single one is really exceptional. But viOlet isn't quite there yet!
He will definately have to join a team and it won't be a korean one, since he seems to have high monetary expectations.
why wouldnt a company sponsor a single player? to be honest, it makes more sense in a game like sc2, where its 1v1. have practice partners sure but you're on your own in tournaments.
On July 02 2012 18:29 Lorch wrote: I hope he stays teamless and just lets CSN manage all his stuff, we need more independent players.
But a company won't sponsor a single player, if they could sponsor a whole team of strong players unless the single one is really exceptional. But viOlet isn't quite there yet!
He will definately have to join a team and it won't be a korean one, since he seems to have high monetary expectations.
why wouldnt a company sponsor a single player? to be honest, it makes more sense in a game like sc2, where its 1v1. have practice partners sure but you're on your own in tournaments.
It should be usually the better deal to sponsor a team, since you get way more exposure for your money, expecially since teamleagues play a more important role lately!
On July 02 2012 18:29 Lorch wrote: I hope he stays teamless and just lets CSN manage all his stuff, we need more independent players.
But a company won't sponsor a single player, if they could sponsor a whole team of strong players unless the single one is really exceptional. But viOlet isn't quite there yet!
He will definately have to join a team and it won't be a korean one, since he seems to have high monetary expectations.
On July 02 2012 18:29 Lorch wrote: I hope he stays teamless and just lets CSN manage all his stuff, we need more independent players.
But a company won't sponsor a single player, if they could sponsor a whole team of strong players unless the single one is really exceptional. But viOlet isn't quite there yet!
He will definately have to join a team and it won't be a korean one, since he seems to have high monetary expectations.
Grubby is pretty exceptional in his ability to market himself. Violet's a cool guy and he can speak decent English, but compare him to Grubby's PR it's not even close.
On-topic: Sad to see Violet leave Empire, I actually hope he re-signs .
I wouldn't be surprised if he did join complexity. They don't seem to have a problem picking up koreans, nada is no longer with them so they might wanna fill that void, plus they just built a sweet house in Texas - seems perfect! haha
On July 02 2012 18:29 Lorch wrote: I hope he stays teamless and just lets CSN manage all his stuff, we need more independent players.
But a company won't sponsor a single player, if they could sponsor a whole team of strong players unless the single one is really exceptional. But viOlet isn't quite there yet!
He will definately have to join a team and it won't be a korean one, since he seems to have high monetary expectations.
Ooh, interesting. Violet has been a pretty awesome player. I think it would suck for Empire to lose him, but this might be an opportunity for him to go elsewhere as well.
Why are people saying he would go back to MVP? He's said that team houses are like prison and loves living in America, MVP in all likelihood won't foot the bill for him to attend foreign tournaments while living in the USA... maybe the MYM partnership would help cover some of that, but he'd be losing a lot in terms of money to return to a Korean team.
id imagine he wants a team that will keep him in america, but if he were to go back to korea maybe fnatic so he can still go to all the tournies maybe.
On July 02 2012 19:41 Arachne wrote: I hope he resigns with empire, as tbh, I think empire is what took him from that guy who was owning the playhem dailies into a code S player.
And I am not sure how much interaction he had with the team, but any interaction with the Imperial Terrans would have only been positive on him.
Despite IM's truckload of awesome sponsors, it seems we don't see very many new players from them. Still wondering if Fenix is ever going to make a splash again...
I'm viOLet's good friend and have been for a while, I can say the following without (hopefully) revealing too much:
1) He will remain in South Korea for the OSL Prelims; he will be returning to Andrew's house when he comes back -- this means he will NOT be staying in Korea to compete past (I assume) July.
2) He's stated many times he favors foreign teams over Korean teams (to join, at least). This means you can count on a foreign team to pick him up as he doesn't favor the Korean practice schedules/playstyles (as he's said before in interviews).
Anything else, Andrew will be sure to update you guys on. Please take note of Andrew's post that there is no conflict between viOLet and the team -- this is all simply due to contracts expiring etc. and is the norm -- nothing hairy or bad going on here.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
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omfg. I cracked up so hard :D
On Topic: viOLet is such a talented player, that I'm sure TONS of teams are trying to sign him right now
Wait perhaps he will join Mill with stephano and the gang? But i doubt it now when i'm thinking about it. fOrGG just joined and I bet they will relax a bit with the recruiting part.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
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omfg. I cracked up so hard :D
On Topic: viOLet is such a talented player, that I'm sure TONS of teams are trying to sign him right now
hahaha me too.
Anyways I think the right choice for violet should be compLeXity gaming since they are based in Texas.
He's a Zerg player, won't have any difficulties to find a new team atm. Violet has shown some good results lately, too, and every team wants Zerg players because the race is really strong right now.
On July 02 2012 23:00 SharkStarcraft wrote: He's a Zerg player, won't have any difficulties to find a new team atm. Violet has shown some good results lately, too, and every team wants Zerg players because the race is really strong right now.
Don't go on with this balance whine when in Korea Terran is currently winning a majority of games vs Zerg.
Violet will get on a good team because he is an amazing player, and there's no way that the chance to acquire him will be passed on, whether it be by Empire again or some other foreign team. Personally, I think Acer should really consider him - They've really been having some weakness in their zerg lineup and could use a little bit of reinforcement there.
He will probably want an american team IF he resigns from Empire. That is, because he lives in the states and was going on about Houston (least I think it was Houston) being his hometown now.
Empire.StrangeR - head sc2 coordinator of Team Empire:
Contract of viOLet expired yesterday and he is free agent now. I was very surprise, when read Andrew's statement, but he had right to do it even without approvement with Team Empire. I supposed, if viOLet decided to leave, we must do official announcement, instead this rumors.
We are thinking about offering to viOLet new contract, but there are other possibilities to add new players in Team Empire. As Andrew told, there is a chance to resign contract with viOlet too, it will depend of both side wishes.
I want to emphasize, that there is no problems between Team Empire and viOlet. We are grateful to him for his great work and victories for Team Empire. We wish to him good luck and new victories!
Empire.StrangeR - head sc2 coordinator of Team Empire:
Contract of viOLet expired yesterday and he is free agent now. I was very surprise, when read Andrew's statement, but he had right to do it even without approvement with Team Empire. I supposed, if viOLet decided to leave, we must do official announcement, instead this rumors.
We are thinking about offering to viOLet new contract, but there are other possibilities to add new players in Team Empire. As Andrew told, there is a chance to resign contract with viOlet too, it will depend of both side wishes.
I want to emphasize, that there is no problems between Team Empire and viOlet. We are grateful to him for his great work and victories for Team Empire. We wish to him good luck and new victories!
I hope he resigns! Goodluck man.
Edit: I mean resign by signing again, not quitting. :/
Maybe because he won mlg he thinks he deserves more income ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) and empire probably refused to pay him more and hes now looking for a team???
Sounds like some BS to me. Violet must have had some kind of REALLY short contract agreement to already have his contract expired. I can't imagine that his contract just ran out.
Also, csn_andrew might want to be a little careful how he uses "resign," because that words means to break or purposefully end a contract.
EDIT: Also, after reading Team Empire's official statement up above, does anyone else find the English of these statements a little bit ridiculous?
I mean, I understand that Empire comes from Eastern Europe, and that csn_andrew might not be American/English, but if this was an official statement, say, from Bayern Munich in football (soccer), they would have to get their English right. Any team that might not be native English but still plays in leagues with English names should really be releasing statements with good English into official annals of the press on the subject (instead of a reply buried in an unofficial TL thread). It's time eSPORTS started looking like a sport.
Empire.StrangeR - head sc2 coordinator of Team Empire:
Contract of viOLet expired yesterday and he is free agent now. I was very surprise, when read Andrew's statement, but he had right to do it even without approvement with Team Empire. I supposed, if viOLet decided to leave, we must do official announcement, instead this rumors.
We are thinking about offering to viOLet new contract, but there are other possibilities to add new players in Team Empire. As Andrew told, there is a chance to resign contract with viOlet too, it will depend of both side wishes.
I want to emphasize, that there is no problems between Team Empire and viOlet. We are grateful to him for his great work and victories for Team Empire. We wish to him good luck and new victories!
I understand wanting to make a joint announcement to avoid rumors but shouldn't that have been addressed long before the contact actually expires? It seems like Empire shouldn't have been too surprised if the contract is up, even if there are ongoing negotiations.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
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LOLL i would say i agree...but umm?
Also violet is very good and good luck to him where ever he lands!
On July 03 2012 00:13 Nuclease wrote: Sounds like some BS to me. Violet must have had some kind of REALLY short contract agreement to already have his contract expired. I can't imagine that his contract just ran out.
Also, csn_andrew might want to be a little careful how he uses "resign," because that words means to break or purposefully end a contract.
EDIT: Also, after reading Team Empire's official statement up above, does anyone else find the English of these statements a little bit ridiculous?
I mean, I understand that Empire comes from Eastern Europe, and that csn_andrew might not be American/English, but if this was an official statement, say, from Bayern Munich in football (soccer), they would have to get their English right. Any team that might not be native English but still plays in leagues with English names should really be releasing statements with good English into official annals of the press on the subject (instead of a reply buried in an unofficial TL thread). It's time eSPORTS started looking like a sport.
I doubt that anyone was confused by the word "resign", context seemed pretty clear to me.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
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I probably laughed at this way harder than I should had
On July 03 2012 00:42 intel21 wrote: An ENGLISH speaking KOREAN player. EG will jump on this.
edit: i heard he won a couple tournies too, so he's probably alright of a player as well
+ They NEED a good zerg, they're being led by Puma, JYP, Huk, Thorzain and Demuslim right now. Their zerg are Idra as the best, then Machine and Lzgamer...
On July 03 2012 00:13 Nuclease wrote: Sounds like some BS to me. Violet must have had some kind of REALLY short contract agreement to already have his contract expired. I can't imagine that his contract just ran out.
Also, csn_andrew might want to be a little careful how he uses "resign," because that words means to break or purposefully end a contract.
EDIT: Also, after reading Team Empire's official statement up above, does anyone else find the English of these statements a little bit ridiculous?
I mean, I understand that Empire comes from Eastern Europe, and that csn_andrew might not be American/English, but if this was an official statement, say, from Bayern Munich in football (soccer), they would have to get their English right. Any team that might not be native English but still plays in leagues with English names should really be releasing statements with good English into official annals of the press on the subject (instead of a reply buried in an unofficial TL thread). It's time eSPORTS started looking like a sport.
I doubt that anyone was confused by the word "resign", context seemed pretty clear to me.
Oh I read it as resign as in quit. I did hesitate thinking it's very strange to quit a job that you don't really have anymore since the contract is out, but I didn't make the connection that he really meant re-sign.
On July 02 2012 23:24 Kontys wrote: He will probably want an american team IF he resigns from Empire. That is, because he lives in the states and was going on about Houston (least I think it was Houston) being his hometown now.
Exactly. No way will he go to Mouz or Millenium, to European oriented.
EG seems the most likely do to the fact they have ZERO high level, Code S/A calibur, Zergs. Violet would fill that rather huge gap they really need to fill. They have a star Terran in Puma and even Thorzain pulls of legit tourney wins. Huk and JYP have them covered for high end Protoss play (lack of tourney results for JYP is deceiving. Huks high level record speaks for itself).
Who do they have for Zerg? Machine and Idra. So much potential there, but they just seemed to be skill capped or something. Just not Code S/A calibur.
But there is Complexity and Liquid and Quantic, who are all really good potential teams. All with a legit reason to wanted a new high level Zerg. Cuz Violet is awesome. What other reason does a team really need?
I think EG would allow Violet to stand out more when it matters most, because he would pretty much stand alone as the only high level Zerg on EG. No disrespect to Idra or Machine, I love those guys. But just saying.
Whatever team he chooses to join - I will always love him for his charisma and his awesome attitude towards the game and life in general. To have to balls to leave korea for the USA at a time when everybody was heading for korea was very impressive. Even more so when he kept being successful, being on the same level as the very best koreans.
On July 02 2012 23:24 Kontys wrote: He will probably want an american team IF he resigns from Empire. That is, because he lives in the states and was going on about Houston (least I think it was Houston) being his hometown now.
Exactly. No way will he go to Mouz or Millenium, to European oriented.
That's exactly what people said before he signed with Empire. Just saying.
Considering that Twitter is not an SC2 themed website and is rather large and international, it really could just mean that he wanted to eliminate ambiguity that could arouse between him and some other Violet Empire, Violet Empiricism, "The Violet Emperor". I could see why he would want to specify his affiliation with Starcraft on that twitter account. But maybe you are right, although IMO it is not time to draw any definitive conclusions just yet.
On July 02 2012 23:00 SharkStarcraft wrote: He's a Zerg player, won't have any difficulties to find a new team atm. Violet has shown some good results lately, too, and every team wants Zerg players because the race is really strong right now.
Don't go on with this balance whine when in Korea Terran is currently winning a majority of games vs Zerg.
Violet will get on a good team because he is an amazing player, and there's no way that the chance to acquire him will be passed on, whether it be by Empire again or some other foreign team. Personally, I think Acer should really consider him - They've really been having some weakness in their zerg lineup and could use a little bit of reinforcement there.
ZvZ from Noobchio is bronze level, terribly lacking in our Z line-up
That was a pretty brief contract... it'd be cool if he resigns for Empire. I like the idea of foreign teams having a Korean ace. And it'd probably be better for him to be an ace rather than just sign for some Korean team and be another one of their Zergs. If he prefers the Europe/US scene, he could go to Millenium or EG, even Liquid.
To those of you that fail to understand english grammar:
To resign from something (such as a job) means to quit or take leave. To re-sign something means to renew, as in "viOLet re-signs with X" meaning viOLet has renewed his relations/contract with X, not that he's taking leave or quitting.
On July 03 2012 01:21 Lozos wrote: Liquid`Violet make it happen!
Do they really need another zerg?
While it would make them pretty zerg heavy. TL does seem to consider personality a big factor in recruitment. Violet has a stellar one at that, and amazing talent. Its unlikely they pick him up, but his race wouldn't be the determining factor I believe.
Could be a pretty good deal for Complexity, I don't think EG wants him as they're already waiting September for that other zerg. The other US teams aren't a good fit.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
User was warned for this post (almost unreadable)
I was imagining him being super drunk when writing that :D I'm pretty sure google translate does a better job xD
Anyway on topic, i'm pretty sure he won't have a tough time getting an even better team, since his recent results are really really good
Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
TL or EG make the most sense to me. TL because they could use a top tier zerg willing to participate in korea to get a 1/1/1 of koreans. EG for pretty much the same reason.
On July 03 2012 02:35 Dosey wrote: TL or EG make the most sense to me. TL because they could use a top tier zerg willing to participate in korea to get a 1/1/1 of koreans. EG for pretty much the same reason.
On July 03 2012 02:35 Dosey wrote: TL or EG make the most sense to me. TL because they could use a top tier zerg willing to participate in korea to get a 1/1/1 of koreans. EG for pretty much the same reason.
On July 03 2012 02:35 Dosey wrote: TL or EG make the most sense to me. TL because they could use a top tier zerg willing to participate in korea to get a 1/1/1 of koreans. EG for pretty much the same reason.
TL already has a "1/1/1" of koreans. Tajea, Zenio, and Hero.
On July 03 2012 02:35 Dosey wrote: TL or EG make the most sense to me. TL because they could use a top tier zerg willing to participate in korea to get a 1/1/1 of koreans. EG for pretty much the same reason.
TL has 1/1/1 of Koreans
Zenio isn't nearly as scary as Hero/Taeja/Violet. He hasn't won anything...like...ever.
EG sorta makes sense to me, since they could use a Korean Zerg player, and that way it keeps some of the pressure off of the foreigners to go compete in Korea.
Probably going to be EG or CoL, the only teams that really needs him. TL has Zenio, Fnatic has Moon and Byul and the rest of the foreign teams can't compete on salaries or opportunities.
On July 03 2012 02:35 Dosey wrote: TL or EG make the most sense to me. TL because they could use a top tier zerg willing to participate in korea to get a 1/1/1 of koreans. EG for pretty much the same reason.
TL has 1/1/1 of Koreans
Zenio isn't nearly as scary as Hero/Taeja/Violet. He hasn't won anything...like...ever.
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
viOlet had his contract expire yesterday and without consulting with his former team Empire he decided to become a free agent. Both viOlet and Empire could agree on re-signing but they want to test the market 1st.
On July 03 2012 01:34 viOLetFanClub wrote: To those of you that fail to understand english grammar:
To resign from something (such as a job) means to quit or take leave. To re-sign something means to renew, as in "viOLet re-signs with X" meaning viOLet has renewed his relations/contract with X, not that he's taking leave or quitting.
hmm you're right cept that there are more words than just resign in the statement =/. I fail to see where this grammar lesson is needed.
"viOLet's contract has ended with Empire, and as of now is a free agent. We are reviewing his opportunities for sponsorship both with teams and as an independent. I want it to be known that there is also a possibility that he resigns with Empire."
so its all speculation of whether or not he will actually take leave or come back into his team. There's no mistake in the wording thats exactly what it states and thats why people are speculating possible teams.
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
On July 03 2012 04:29 PsyChoRo wrote: i am a bit surprised, i though empire took really good care of him and he was really happy about empire in return.
Read the original post again, he didn't leave his contract ended meaning he's waiting to see other team offers and to see whether he wants to resign with Empire or not.
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
hasn't he only been with them with a few months? I guess that short length was part of the contract when he signed... perhaps he wanted to see if he fit in with the team before signing a longer term deal.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
Aren't EG and TL stacked right now, in terms of roster? Obviously both teams have a lot of dead weight that could be dropped to pick up people who are actually good (and actually...you know, practice) but I doubt that will happen.
TL definitely isn't stacked. Even HerO said on The GD Couch during the Dreamhack Summer that they could use a few more players (because it's too easy to predict them in team leagues, GSTL especially).
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
O_O I think you are mistaken sir.
I'm thinking a coL replacement for Nada as well. Their house is pretty far away in Texas, but it is the same state/region at least.
Killer and Heart are doing just fine and adding a super-good and super-marketable player like Violet seems like a strong play. I think he'd help connect the US players qxc, trimaster and minigun with the other Korean players as well.
P.S. Is anybody else getting increasingly curious about CSN and how Andrew came to connect with Violet and invite him into his family home in Texas? I've enjoyed Rachel's reporting and interviewing for a long time, but wondered how they support all that travel as it doesn't look like they get tons of views on youtube. However they are doing it, props to them and hope to see more of what they do.
EG, among others, need a great zerg which can bring in the victories. On the other hand, they "just" signed Huk and Thorzain. Idra needs a world class zerg to work with. I also recall Idra a while back after loosing to him couple of times just smiling on SOTG. Made me wonder.
Complexity seems to be most likely to engage in a bidding war with EG for viOlet, alea iacta est.
After the dust settles, the one with the money usually wins
quanticViOlet, his results will land him on a much bigger team than empire, sucks for VINES tho he joining empire most likely had somthing to do with having a good training partner like violet
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
On July 03 2012 05:58 Hurtmeplenty wrote: Team Liquid has so many great zergs already.
EG, among others, need a great zerg which can bring in the victories. On the other hand, they "just" signed Huk and Thorzain. Idra needs a world class zerg to work with. I also recall Idra a while back after loosing to him couple of times just smiling on SOTG. Made me wonder.
Complexity seems to be most likely to engage in a bidding war with EG for viOlet, alea iacta est.
After the dust settles, the one with the money usually wins
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
You're way way overdramatizing this. Just cause you don't like a team doesn't mean you have to spew bullshit like this and derail a thread, go make a blog.
I can see him on a Korean team saying that Empire did not practice with him. He was practically practicing in Texas by himself. He will want a players to practice with that are by his side. EG are known to be to practice on ladder and one of the most corporate teams in e-sports
On July 03 2012 07:05 1a2a3a[MB] wrote: I can see him on a Korean team saying that Empire did not practice with him. He was practically practicing in Texas by himself. He will want a players to practice with that are by his side. EG are known to be to practice on ladder and one of the most corporate teams in e-sports
He could live in Slayers house with JYP/Thorzain/Puma if he was in EG, sounds solid.
On July 03 2012 07:05 1a2a3a[MB] wrote: I can see him on a Korean team saying that Empire did not practice with him. He was practically practicing in Texas by himself. He will want a players to practice with that are by his side. EG are known to be to practice on ladder and one of the most corporate teams in e-sports
He could live in Slayers house with JYP/Thorzain/Puma if he was in EG, sounds solid.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
The type of person violet seems to be in interviews (light hearted, likes trying new strategies, doesn't like strict training schedules, likes learning English) suggests the EG lair would be a perfect fit for him. The idea that it's some magical kiss of death for any player's career isn't even worth discussing.
What would be sad is someone of violet's skill level not being able to live comfortably while he trains to be the best. I look forward to more teams being able to pay their players like EG can, but that takes high paying sponsorship and making their sponsors money (which is exactly what EG does best atm).
Anyway, whoever he joins, I'm sure he'll continue to be a top player.
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
TL also advertises their sponsors very well on their player streams. Empire and Mouz do not (Empire has actually been doing better though, after watching Kas's stream they are advertising their sponsors pretty well). Empire may lose violet, but nothing is confirmed yet, but on the other hand, Mouz has lost alot of significant talent. Mouz is not a powerhouse team anymore after losing Thorzain and Morrow, arguably their 2 best players (although mana might be up there as well)
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
lol, really? EG has tons of titles under their name; NASL, IPL1, several MLGs, several top4 MLG placings, IEM, ASUS ROG.
EG has tons of results, whether you like it or not
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
someone didn't watch EG MCSL this weekend
Just because he did well in a team league, it doesnt exclude the fact that he has been playing poorly on individual leagues.
I'd say that it would be an easy choice for Violet to move to EG as he usually stays in Texas anyways. Obviously the money will be good compared to any other team and he will gain even more popularity by joining EG, which violet really loves.
A frat house will aid Violet in taking his English language skills to the next level. ;-)
In all seriousness, I just hope Violet gets what he is worth. He took a gamble going West, it paid off in results, now hopefully it pays off in his income stream.
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
that kiss of death is just bandwagon shit =/. also that last part is bull, pretending to be pros? what do you mean pretending they do work but they arent getting results for their WHOLE team but that happens to a lot of teams. Mouz, TL, and Empire all have members that stick out as opposed to the rest of the team what makes them "pro" and not EG? All the teams youve mentioned stream and show their sponsors ._.)
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
someone didn't watch EG MCSL this weekend
Just because he did well in a team league, it doesnt exclude the fact that he has been playing poorly on individual leagues.
Made it out of his code s ro32 group = playing poorly? He's one of the top 16 players in the world currently.
On July 03 2012 02:16 kochanfe wrote: Actually, it could very well be compLexity... as they just lost NaDa and they're Korean lineup is beginning to feel a bit sparse compared to many other foreign teams.
I kinda agree. They lost Nada. Killer has been doing very poorly. Plus, they dont have a strong zerg player. Now with their sweet new house, it would be good for everyone.
someone didn't watch EG MCSL this weekend
Just because he did well in a team league, it doesnt exclude the fact that he has been playing poorly on individual leagues.
Made it out of his code s ro32 group = playing poorly? He's one of the top 16 players in the world currently.
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
lol, really? EG has tons of titles under their name; NASL, IPL1, several MLGs, several top4 MLG placings, IEM, ASUS ROG.
EG has tons of results, whether you like it or not
EG had a ton of results before Korean came over. Now they can't even compete with other NA/european teams without constantly grabbing the next free top korean agents and eventually even turning said korean/huk back to subpar status. Their teamhouse is detrimental to the "pros" progression. It is no surprise a teamhouse lacking structure and cares alot about its image fails at taking care of the pros. On top of having people in the team houses incontrol/machine that probably barely practices sc2 over playing other video games that acts as a distraction.
their pros would probably have a better practice rountine if they didn't stay in the teamhouse instead
On July 03 2012 04:29 Rad wrote: I suppose I'm hoping for EG.viOLet and for him to move into the EG lair.
Or what if SK picked him up? I know the SK manager said he wasn't looking for anyone else at the moment (think I remember him saying that in an interview at some european wcs qualifier?) but violet + mc would be the start of a sick sc2 team.
No... no way. EG is the official kiss of death to any player's future success. Don't get me wrong, they monetize their business well, but they've yet to show any actual success, while smaller (well, not smaller, but less monetary) teams like Mouzsports, TL and Empire are actually getting sh*t done instead of just streaming and showing off their sponsor logos and pretending to be pro's, when the "pro" part of their job isn't a whole lot more than just a living billboard.
lol, really? EG has tons of titles under their name; NASL, IPL1, several MLGs, several top4 MLG placings, IEM, ASUS ROG.
EG has tons of results, whether you like it or not
EG had a ton of results before Korean came over. Now they can't even compete with other NA/european teams without constantly grabbing the next free top korean agents and eventually even turning said korean/huk back to subpar status. Their teamhouse is detrimental to the "pros" progression. It is no surprise a teamhouse lacking structure and cares alot about its image fails at taking care of the pros. On top of having people in the team houses incontrol/machine that probably barely practices sc2 over playing other video games that acts as a distraction.
their pros would probably have a better practice rountine if they didn't stay in the teamhouse instead
They grab the next free top Korean agent? EG may of started the Korean arms race but other teams have over passed them by a stretch. Empire had 2 but just lost 1, Mill has 2, TL/CoL have 3 a piece and Fnatic may as well just be classed as a Korean team. Your other points are just as bad but I'll just tag them as flame bait
Depends on how you look at things. Yes, the teams of EG and TL have deep pockets to go out and sign the big name players whether they're foreigners or Koreans, but we can't automatically assume that's where he'll end up. You have to remember EG just recently signed Thorzain who came off of his impressive Dreamhack victory and he's been a big name in the EU scene for quite some time and then when you add the players of PuMa who has been a very consistent player and successful in the foreign scene, HuK who has had much success so far in SC2 and then adding on IdrA, Demuslim and JYP, there's a lot of money spent there and that's still not including the other 3 members of incontrol, machine and lzgamer so they have a lot of money spent on that roster and TL can be seen to doing the same with the players they have right now. It's not to say both teams wouldn't attempt to sign violet but it's just something to consider. Quantic, it's obvious they have some sort of backing with the likes of Naniwa, Sase and Thestc on their team, but once you look down the rest, the rest are definitely good players, especially with Illusion and Agh probably being two of the best players within the US scene but no other players really stand out so I guess it's possible since they only have 3 big name players but it can go either way, and coL is the last one. Right now they do have Killer, Heart and Ganzu as their top players and a lineup of good foreigner players behind that (good as in they are considered some of the better players in the foreign scene.) and with Nada retiring that does free up some money so I'd think coL would be the most likely to make an offer. Although truthfully I can see EG making one as well, unless the speculation about Stephano possibly joining them actually is true, which hypothetically speaking if that's happening then I don't think EG would make an offer unless they are trying to build up a stronger roster
On July 03 2012 08:42 ninjamyst wrote: i will be surprised if EG didn't buy violet
Violet isn't the only high-level player without a team though. oGs' disbandment means that players like Supernova, Inca, TOP, etc are all currently teamless, Genius is currently teamless, and Violet. I'm sure I've missed a few too.
Granted, Violet's English is a huge plus though, but even a team as loaded as EG does not have infinite financial resources.
This might be way off but he seems to like his razer gear - that's what he used when he didn't have a team. MvP and empire both were sponsored by razer, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was picked up by a razer sponsored team
this is what I don't like on European teams. They're not good on management. they dont commit. they dont handle their players well. what if violet goes through round of 8. I really doubt they will still release violet.
On July 02 2012 16:25 Azurues wrote: Mil.Violet cause they need to replace Stephano
Where is stephano going? Mill and TSL have formed a partnership, he resigned with Mill fairly recently, and the rumors about him joining EG died. When people realized that Rakaka is not a valuable source of information. I'm thinking complexity or quantic. I know if I were stephano I would stay away from EG, they don't focus on their game, and their players underperform.
viOLet is awesome, I hope he finds a good team, as he was always one of my favorite Zerg players, I think he has potential and skill that deserves to be on a top level pro team.
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
User was warned for this post (almost unreadable)
No idea why this guy was warned. Do you get warned for misspelling in TL these days? It says "almost unreadable" but I can read it easily. Maybe because I'm a native speaker? Anyways, hope viOLet lands a great deal! He was my favorite WC3 player, and of course one of my favored SC2 players!
On July 02 2012 12:13 System42 wrote: hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
User was warned for this post (almost unreadable)
No idea why this guy was warned. Do you get warned for misspelling in TL these days? It says "almost unreadable" but I can read it easily. Maybe because I'm a native speaker? Anyways, hope viOLet lands a great deal! He was my favorite WC3 player, and of course one of my favored SC2 players!
He was warned for lack of punctuation,capitalization, and a poor use of grammar.
On July 04 2012 06:00 GGzerG wrote: viOLet is awesome, I hope he finds a good team, as he was always one of my favorite Zerg players, I think he has potential and skill that deserves to be on a top level pro team.
On July 04 2012 19:14 diArcipE wrote: EGviOLet sounds nice. EG needs another good Zerg player, to fulfill their ranks.
3 Zergs 4 Toss 3 Terran
And why the need Zerg so mutch?!
3 Tos in EG afaik Incontrol, JYP and HuK
Anyway the zerg section of EG has been much less sucessful recently, with EG mostly being supported by JYP thorzain puma huk and demuslim, compared to last year which was EG=Idra+friends
Liquid'viOlet would be awesome but i don't think they will sign him, because they already have a strong Zerg lineup. I think that he will join EG, but that's fine too, i like them. But i hope that he doesn't start to underperform, cause it feels like everyone on EG does.
On July 06 2012 01:56 OlSpiced wrote: Liquid'viOlet would be awesome but i don't think they will sign him, because they already have a strong Zerg lineup. I think that he will join EG, but that's fine too, i like them. But i hope that he doesn't start to underperform, cause it feels like everyone on EG does.
A good player is a good player though, it's a good opportunity whatever the race.
hmm he could have jsut changed it just incase he left violet or he got kicked out some people had there stream names changed to just there name insteand of there team and then name just incase they left the team or got kicked
So according to the tweet of the empire Manager, Violet will not have a new contract with Empire, and a new player will be annouced for Empire this week.
1. ViOlet is based in America, right? Him moving to the EG house would be nice for him as he could remain in the US (which he really seems to like/wants to represent at tournaments).
2. He's also buddies with Thorzain and before Violet joined Empire there were rumors that Thorzain was trying to recruit him to mouz.
3. This is probably reading way too far into a few tweets, but Incontrol's latest tweets about the business and changing his role make me think he may be being switched over to a caster-type role by EG, freeing up money that would be spent sending him to tournaments to play. As a result, the new money could be used to sign a top level player such as Violet.
On July 10 2012 05:36 Swords wrote: I kind of think it'll be EG.
1. ViOlet is based in America, right? Him moving to the EG house would be nice for him as he could remain in the US (which he really seems to like/wants to represent at tournaments).
2. He's also buddies with Thorzain and before Violet joined Empire there were rumors that Thorzain was trying to recruit him to mouz.
3. This is probably reading way too far into a few tweets, but Incontrol's latest tweets about the business and changing his role make me think he may be being switched over to a caster-type role by EG, freeing up money that would be spent sending him to tournaments to play. As a result, the new money could be used to sign a top level player such as Violet.
Obviously, this is complete speculation.
Violet ist not based in america at the moment. He moved back to korea because he didn't get a visa extention.
On July 10 2012 05:36 Swords wrote: I kind of think it'll be EG.
1. ViOlet is based in America, right? Him moving to the EG house would be nice for him as he could remain in the US (which he really seems to like/wants to represent at tournaments).
2. He's also buddies with Thorzain and before Violet joined Empire there were rumors that Thorzain was trying to recruit him to mouz.
3. This is probably reading way too far into a few tweets, but Incontrol's latest tweets about the business and changing his role make me think he may be being switched over to a caster-type role by EG, freeing up money that would be spent sending him to tournaments to play. As a result, the new money could be used to sign a top level player such as Violet.
Obviously, this is complete speculation.
I feel like he'll stay on a team affiliated with Razor. It just seems extremely unlikely that he'd do so much stuff with Razor only to join a Steelseries sponsored team so shortly after. Razor sponsors a ton of teams, so still plenty of options.
On July 10 2012 05:36 Swords wrote: I kind of think it'll be EG.
1. ViOlet is based in America, right? Him moving to the EG house would be nice for him as he could remain in the US (which he really seems to like/wants to represent at tournaments).
2. He's also buddies with Thorzain and before Violet joined Empire there were rumors that Thorzain was trying to recruit him to mouz.
3. This is probably reading way too far into a few tweets, but Incontrol's latest tweets about the business and changing his role make me think he may be being switched over to a caster-type role by EG, freeing up money that would be spent sending him to tournaments to play. As a result, the new money could be used to sign a top level player such as Violet.
Obviously, this is complete speculation.
Violet ist not based in america at the moment. He moved back to korea because he didn't get a visa extention.
I did not know that. Although, it still doesn't change the fact he could buddy up with TZain in Korea and then potentially work on a return to America.
The person above me who wrote about the razor vs. steelseries sponsorships may have a good point also though. With that conflict and the visa issues it is possible EG would be off the table. Although unless Violet is personally sponsored by these companies I dunno if it'd really affect his decision that much.
Still, it's all silly speculation really. While I'm at it I might as well say I hope it's ROOT.ViOlet.
On July 10 2012 05:36 Swords wrote: I kind of think it'll be EG.
1. ViOlet is based in America, right? Him moving to the EG house would be nice for him as he could remain in the US (which he really seems to like/wants to represent at tournaments).
2. He's also buddies with Thorzain and before Violet joined Empire there were rumors that Thorzain was trying to recruit him to mouz.
3. This is probably reading way too far into a few tweets, but Incontrol's latest tweets about the business and changing his role make me think he may be being switched over to a caster-type role by EG, freeing up money that would be spent sending him to tournaments to play. As a result, the new money could be used to sign a top level player such as Violet.
Obviously, this is complete speculation.
Violet ist not based in america at the moment. He moved back to korea because he didn't get a visa extention.
On his twitter he said he was going back to america. Whether it's for a few days or longer i don't know but he's definitely still going there for some time.
On July 10 2012 07:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: EG would be awesome for Violet, EG and the guys on the Arizona house. Makes perfect sense imo.
Also EG's biggest weakness is it's zerg lineup right now. They have Idra but he's not massively consistent and their zerg lineup is nowhere near as deep as their toss or terran lineups.
Sorta wish violet stayed on Empire, he just seemed like that, but hopefully he finds a new team, and I'm looking forward to see who empire's new player too
Quantic or Complexity if he is going to join an NA team. I doubt EG would sign Violet just to make a run at Stephano when HIS contract is up (unless the whole CoL/Mill thing happens again).
I also don't think he'll return to Empire. I'm sure they offered him what they could for an extension and leaving sort of looks like he wants more. Can't blame him because of his results.
On July 10 2012 08:35 AKomrade wrote: Quantic or Complexity if he is going to join an NA team. I doubt EG would sign Violet just to make a run at Stephano when HIS contract is up (unless the whole CoL/Mill thing happens again).
I also don't think he'll return to Empire. I'm sure they offered him what they could for an extension and leaving sort of looks like he wants more. Can't blame him because of his results.
he's definitely not rejoining empire, as empire stranger said good luck to viOlet for finding a new home and that Empire has a new player otw in the next week
On July 10 2012 08:35 AKomrade wrote: Quantic or Complexity if he is going to join an NA team. I doubt EG would sign Violet just to make a run at Stephano when HIS contract is up (unless the whole CoL/Mill thing happens again).
I also don't think he'll return to Empire. I'm sure they offered him what they could for an extension and leaving sort of looks like he wants more. Can't blame him because of his results.
Who says EG won't want them both?
Violet's had better results than Stephano this year anyway although obviously Stephano has a much bigger fanbase.
He's flying back to the US right now (he's at Incheon airport which is a huge airport in South Korea). He's stated before he wants a domestic team with a house, but will not risk severing ties with the CSN team that has become his family over the last year or so in order to fulfill this -- he believes that friendship and relationships between peers presides over getting a top domestic team to pick him up.
There will be an interview up shortly after his return, in which Andrew will help him with that will answer all of your questions. Hang tight.
On July 10 2012 09:04 viOLetFanClub wrote: Just an update -- I'm a friend of his:
He's flying back to the US right now (he's at Incheon airport which is a huge airport in South Korea). He's stated before he wants a domestic team with a house, but will not risk severing ties with the CSN team that has become his family over the last year or so in order to fulfill this -- he believes that friendship and relationships between peers presides over getting a top domestic team to pick him up.
There will be an interview up shortly after his return, in which Andrew will help him with that will answer all of your questions. Hang tight.
well, lets think about this. Teams in America with a house, EG, Complexity and Quantic. Now would EG and Complexity's sponsorship with SteelSereies and QPAD/Soundblaster respectively cause him to sever ties with CSN due to their Razer affiliation? Because if so, that leaves one team, Quantic, who has a house and is sponsored by Razer.
On July 10 2012 09:04 viOLetFanClub wrote: Just an update -- I'm a friend of his:
He's flying back to the US right now (he's at Incheon airport which is a huge airport in South Korea). He's stated before he wants a domestic team with a house, but will not risk severing ties with the CSN team that has become his family over the last year or so in order to fulfill this -- he believes that friendship and relationships between peers presides over getting a top domestic team to pick him up.
There will be an interview up shortly after his return, in which Andrew will help him with that will answer all of your questions. Hang tight.
well, lets think about this. Teams in America with a house, EG, Complexity and Quantic. Now would EG and Complexity's sponsorship with SteelSereies and QPAD/Soundblaster respectively cause him to sever ties with CSN due to their Razer affiliation? Because if so, that leaves one team, Quantic, who has a house and is sponsored by Razer.
Just some thoughts.
That'd make sense. If he joins Quantic he'll be a great training partner for his teammates in the US. Kinda too bad he won't be at the Startale house though. Some fresh Zerg blood could be good for them, and StartaleQ would be even more dangerous. Him being in an NA team house though will hopefully help the NA scene develop some.
On July 10 2012 09:04 viOLetFanClub wrote: Just an update -- I'm a friend of his:
He's flying back to the US right now (he's at Incheon airport which is a huge airport in South Korea). He's stated before he wants a domestic team with a house, but will not risk severing ties with the CSN team that has become his family over the last year or so in order to fulfill this -- he believes that friendship and relationships between peers presides over getting a top domestic team to pick him up.
There will be an interview up shortly after his return, in which Andrew will help him with that will answer all of your questions. Hang tight.
well, lets think about this. Teams in America with a house, EG, Complexity and Quantic. Now would EG and Complexity's sponsorship with SteelSereies and QPAD/Soundblaster respectively cause him to sever ties with CSN due to their Razer affiliation? Because if so, that leaves one team, Quantic, who has a house and is sponsored by Razer.
Just some thoughts.
That'd make sense. If he joins Quantic he'll be a great training partner for his teammates in the US. Kinda too bad he won't be at the Startale house though. Some fresh Zerg blood could be good for them, and StartaleQ would be even more dangerous. Him being in an NA team house though will hopefully help the NA scene develop some.
Well if he keeps playing in gsl he could stay there
On July 10 2012 09:04 viOLetFanClub wrote: Just an update -- I'm a friend of his:
He's flying back to the US right now (he's at Incheon airport which is a huge airport in South Korea). He's stated before he wants a domestic team with a house, but will not risk severing ties with the CSN team that has become his family over the last year or so in order to fulfill this -- he believes that friendship and relationships between peers presides over getting a top domestic team to pick him up.
There will be an interview up shortly after his return, in which Andrew will help him with that will answer all of your questions. Hang tight.
well, lets think about this. Teams in America with a house, EG, Complexity and Quantic. Now would EG and Complexity's sponsorship with SteelSereies and QPAD/Soundblaster respectively cause him to sever ties with CSN due to their Razer affiliation? Because if so, that leaves one team, Quantic, who has a house and is sponsored by Razer.
Just some thoughts.
It makes sense, but i believe he lives in Texas right? If he likes where he has been in the state he might want to join Complexity because their house is in Houston, which isn't far from where he currently lives in Texas. That way he still is close to his "American Family" or whatever he calls them in his recent video.
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