Spades retires from Western Wolves - Page 28

On June 06 2012 08:49 Scisyhp wrote:


I want him out. I'm tired of all this hacking. It's not even a question of a second chance. He already got that. At this point it's ridiculous, and he should get away from this scene and stay away.

On June 06 2012 09:06 TeeTS wrote:
Sorry but this is the standard cheater behavior, I'm used to from a multiple times maphacker back in the old brood war days in the german scene (His main ID was Selector).
At first you deny any cheating. If this isn't possible anymore you jump onto the pity train to get enough supporters, that your case is reconsidered. And sooner or later, we will have a 100% evidence and everyone who kept defending him feels like a fool (or might just be one).
I have no Idea how people can try to blandish maphacking and defend it beyong every reason. The evidences are there (in the other thread), and they are very clear. So just accept it. A growing proportion of cheaters is a real threat to the growth and stability of esports. So we have to fight Hacks and Cheats as hard as we can!

On June 06 2012 09:15 1a wrote:
this is sad, the sc2 community made a professional quit their job just because of a couple replays without even good evidence.

On June 06 2012 09:20 Blisse wrote:


Bullshit.

I got called a cheater a bunch in CounterStrike. None whatsoever.

My first word? Deny I cheated. Why? Because I didn't. But all the evidence against me showed I was hacking. Well no shit, who keeps records of players not hacking? But there it was, plain as day, replays of me hacking.

Oh look, how he knew exactly where you were.

Oh look, how he died on purpose because he knew he was being suspicious.

Oh look, how he can do a stupidly bold move and get away with it.

There's a technique called priming. If I say, go look for this right here, chances are you'll find this right there. But would you have otherwise? That's why you have unbiased, unopinionated juries. No rape victim in a rape case. That's why there's a judge to moderate the prosecution. So you don't have biased crap thrown around like it's the truth. Know the victim? Then it's your testimony on your life. Not scared of perjury? You should be. Evidence, not hearsay. And innocent until proven guilty. And if even one juror disagrees with a conviction, you start all fucking over again until it's unanimous.

This is ridiculous and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

On June 06 2012 09:21 darthfoley wrote:


i've had it with these posts.

On June 06 2012 09:29 Wolfe87 wrote:



Why because people have a difference of opinion to you? Some people believed he was hacking others did not.

Back on topic of this thread. Good luck to all of those involved shame that this partnership had to end this way.

On June 06 2012 09:32 quickclickz wrote:
"It's unlikely that I'll receive invites to major tournaments or showmatches as long as this matter is unresolved and I don't see any way for this to be resolved."

I read that as: "There's no way I'll ever admit i'm guilty and there's no way anyone will ever prove me innocent because I'm guilty.. therefore this will never get resolved."

On June 06 2012 09:35 EienShinwa wrote:
I'm just going to repost this from the other page:

I really find Spades posts incredibly self-defeatist. Instead of trying to be positive and forgive and forget as to be the bigger man if he did not hack, he keeps making it seem as if this has done irreversible damage because of these simple accusations. Come on, people don't lose their entire careers by mudslinging without any decent proof. That is what makes Spades seem incredibly suspicious to me, especially because he has been caught maphacking before. Instead of trying to be as upfront about it as possible, and explain every single accusation thrown at him right back in the accuser's face, he is trying to hide and be as isolated as possible from the situation. After all, if he did not hack and is not a hacker, then wouldn't someone such as a PROGAMER have the balls to cement a defense stronger than what any no namer - especially one with just one post- has to say? After all, he has all the resources(his replays). Wouldn't it give him good publicity to do so? Wouldn't it show his sponsors that he is able to stand up for himself and control situations regarding him? Wouldn't it gain some admiration and fans? The fact that he is trying to garner empathy in such a way that tries to completely ignore the accusations made at him raises some eyebrows.The camera locks still have not been answered directly by him with clarity. His claims are all extremely vague and dodge the subject, claiming "chance", "luck", and "randomness" as his only solid defenses.

On June 06 2012 04:59 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
People who are innocent leave their teams right? O no, they don't. This guy is completely clueless, EVERYTHING he does makes him seem more guilty

On June 06 2012 09:35 Doodsmack wrote:
I've yet to see the nay sayers provide a plausible explanation for the fog of war discrepancies between the showmatch games and random ladder games. Even the scouting worker. Blisse and others, please explain how its plausible that Spades would move his scouting worker around by the minimap only in the showmatch games but not in his ladder games.