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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
June 05 2012 19:38 GMT
#281
On June 06 2012 04:30 jmbthirteen wrote:
you guys know there is an open bracket that will be filled with mostly Americans and some Europeans right?


some europeans? who?
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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
June 05 2012 19:40 GMT
#282
On June 05 2012 20:10 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
only koreans? :/

thats why i pay for gsl... no way im paying for this


Who you blamin for this? Koreans are the best so they qualify... If you want to see more foreigners motivate them to practice harder.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
June 05 2012 19:53 GMT
#283
On June 06 2012 04:40 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:10 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
only koreans? :/

thats why i pay for gsl... no way im paying for this


Who you blamin for this? Koreans are the best so they qualify... If you want to see more foreigners motivate them to practice harder.

he's not blaming anyone he is just saying that he would rather watch foreigners play and not pay a ridiculous price for MLG when he can watch dreamhack for free, at better times for europeans (MLG is 2am-8am on friday for me or something like that...), and he gets to see his favorite foreign player (if he isn't a fan of Grubby Socke or Stephano)
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
June 05 2012 19:56 GMT
#284
Group A is interesting. Although both Ryung and Inori are lesser known players both have about Code S level vZ.

I don´t have the slightest idea who will make it out. I guess its the group of death to me...
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 05 2012 20:03 GMT
#285
On June 06 2012 04:38 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:30 jmbthirteen wrote:
you guys know there is an open bracket that will be filled with mostly Americans and some Europeans right?


some europeans? who?

well the EG and Liquid Europeans will be there for sure. Not sure who else as the list hasn't been released yet. but its supposed to come out today. Not gonna be a lot of them, but there will be some.
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
June 05 2012 20:23 GMT
#286
On June 06 2012 05:03 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:38 sVnteen wrote:
On June 06 2012 04:30 jmbthirteen wrote:
you guys know there is an open bracket that will be filled with mostly Americans and some Europeans right?


some europeans? who?

well the EG and Liquid Europeans will be there for sure. Not sure who else as the list hasn't been released yet. but its supposed to come out today. Not gonna be a lot of them, but there will be some.

oh yeah i forgot about them...

but don't think any other europeans are coming

mlg is kinda making itself very unattractive for EU players and even for US players it's almost impossible to qualify with all the koreans around

i don't expect more than 5 foreigners on championschip sunday
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Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States368 Posts
June 05 2012 20:34 GMT
#287
Oh wow...

I am done for.
Xaldarian
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands65 Posts
June 05 2012 20:35 GMT
#288
With the current state of zerg we might just end up with 2 zvzs stephano violet symbol and Drg to advance or maybe leenock.
Those who lived in darkness have seen a great light
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
June 05 2012 20:54 GMT
#289
On June 06 2012 04:40 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:10 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
only koreans? :/

thats why i pay for gsl... no way im paying for this


Who you blamin for this? Koreans are the best so they qualify... If you want to see more foreigners motivate them to practice harder.


I really cant hear that bullshit anymore about "foreigners need to train harder".

Firstly because so many Europeans, especially from the East work their ass off but still will never catch up to the Koreans because of the way things are. (Difference in infrastructure, player pool etc.) Do you want to watch humans with a somewhat normal life like most western professional atheletes or a bunch of kids living under terrible circumstances withdrawn from life playing games 16 hours a day?

Secondly because its stupid to encourage people to give up EVERYTHING for one goal only because a bunch of Koreans do so because of their totally fucked up work ethic.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
June 05 2012 21:00 GMT
#290
On June 06 2012 03:26 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
This is the championship the BW legends are coming right?

Yes and no. "This is the championship weekend the BW legends are playing a separate tournament, which happens to be at the same place" would be more like it. I guess they will chicken out of the actual event.
Get off my lawn, young punks
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
June 05 2012 21:04 GMT
#291
Gonna be sick. Hopefully we see some decent foreigner performance!
In Inca we trust
KenChan
Profile Joined January 2012
54 Posts
June 05 2012 21:05 GMT
#292
On June 06 2012 05:54 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:40 mtn wrote:
On June 05 2012 20:10 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
only koreans? :/

thats why i pay for gsl... no way im paying for this


Who you blamin for this? Koreans are the best so they qualify... If you want to see more foreigners motivate them to practice harder.


I really cant hear that bullshit anymore about "foreigners need to train harder".

Firstly because so many Europeans, especially from the East work their ass off but still will never catch up to the Koreans because of the way things are. (Difference in infrastructure, player pool etc.) Do you want to watch humans with a somewhat normal life like most western professional atheletes or a bunch of kids living under terrible circumstances withdrawn from life playing games 16 hours a day?

Secondly because its stupid to encourage people to give up EVERYTHING for one goal only because a bunch of Koreans do so because of their totally fucked up work ethic.



ROFL yes we should encourage the halfassed casual ones.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
June 05 2012 21:11 GMT
#293
On June 06 2012 06:05 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 05:54 marcesr wrote:
On June 06 2012 04:40 mtn wrote:
On June 05 2012 20:10 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
only koreans? :/

thats why i pay for gsl... no way im paying for this


Who you blamin for this? Koreans are the best so they qualify... If you want to see more foreigners motivate them to practice harder.


I really cant hear that bullshit anymore about "foreigners need to train harder".

Firstly because so many Europeans, especially from the East work their ass off but still will never catch up to the Koreans because of the way things are. (Difference in infrastructure, player pool etc.) Do you want to watch humans with a somewhat normal life like most western professional atheletes or a bunch of kids living under terrible circumstances withdrawn from life playing games 16 hours a day?

Secondly because its stupid to encourage people to give up EVERYTHING for one goal only because a bunch of Koreans do so because of their totally fucked up work ethic.



ROFL yes we should encourage the halfassed casual ones.


-.- Foreigners should train hard, but thats what they already do, I just cant hear people saying the should train even hardeER.
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
June 05 2012 21:16 GMT
#294
I think that Ryung will do well in Group A; his TvZ is pretty strong.
Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 21:20:31
June 05 2012 21:19 GMT
#295
its not a question of who is best and trains hardest. We know its Koreans...they play the best SC2 and probably always will. The problem is its hard to get emotionally attached to 20+ Koreans every tournament as it would be to someone from your own country that is just how it is in every sport. There is a reason people cheer on their local teams much of the time.

I want Koreans to always come to the pre-eminent events just not 90% of all matches to be Koreans v Koreans. That does not have a Global market and consequently bodes poorly for a mass market entertainment.

Lets have more tournies that limit Koreans but bar WCS Country / Continental type of events should never bar them all as I like most also want to see the best ....just want some balance.
uLaLuLaLume
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada75 Posts
June 05 2012 21:22 GMT
#296
Leenock hwaiting! ^^
Chickenlegs
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden451 Posts
June 05 2012 21:25 GMT
#297
I just want more koreans, so I hope they beast through the open brackets! Go Go!
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 21:30:18
June 05 2012 21:28 GMT
#298
On June 06 2012 06:19 Ireniicus wrote:
its not a question of who is best and trains hardest. We know its Koreans...they play the best SC2 and probably always will. The problem is its hard to get emotionally attached to 20+ Koreans every tournament as it would be to someone from your own country that is just how it is in every sport. There is a reason people cheer on their local teams much of the time.

I want Koreans to always come to the pre-eminent events just not 90% of all matches to be Koreans v Koreans. That does not have a Global market and consequently bodes poorly for a mass market entertainment.

Lets have more tournies that limit Koreans but bar WCS type of events should never bar them all as I like most also want to see the best ....just want some balance.


But that's like COMMUNISM !! Rabble Rabble Rabble! tok er jebs! zZzZ...

To limit and "tax" spots from Koreans would be so akward and bring a essence of fakeness into MLG or other tournaments. You know you are watching lesser player just because of popularity/more viewers/image and not the real thing: Skill.
It would be some sort of a sellout.

It is annoying though, would be nicer to see a more even balance, but it's hard to know exactly what to do about it. Ofc it would be fixed if foreigners actually did train harder and show more effort. >_>
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
June 05 2012 21:28 GMT
#299
DRG wins it all
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 05 2012 22:13 GMT
#300
Grubby fighting!!! Gonna be tough against Symbol and MKP though =(.Stephano looks like he has a good chance of taking the group if he can take out Polt and Socke is just fucked :p.
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