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Official statement by Snowbird: The brackets that were up for like 1min were not correct.
There will be adjustments because of schedule conflicts of some players (MLG, Dreamhack).
We will most likely post a final version of the brackets tomorrow.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 31 2012 07:49 GMT
#61
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:54 babylon wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
Anyone know who SuHoSin is? I kind of feel bad for him, I can't imagine him getting out of there... MVP is winning again, Genius is decent vs zerg (and a GSL finalist no less) and Happy is IM's vs Z specialist.


Suhosin = Line. Don't discount him. He's pretty damn good when he chooses to be.

Parting hates his Zergy group.

Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 31 2012 07:52 GMT
#62
On May 31 2012 15:39 Boblhead wrote:
stop giving foreigners seeds, even violet is iffy for me. Foreigners like all others just get knocked out first round, for the few who get mirror match ups like huk/naniwa in which they are good at then its different. But srsly mr chae needs to stop giving them seeds.



Violet is korean not a foreigner, and Thorzain deserves his seed, he's top3 foreigners. Foreigners attract non-korean audience which theyw ant so their viewer numbers increase, without foreigners it would probably dip quite a bit.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
May 31 2012 07:53 GMT
#63
13T 10P 9Z, what a wonderful distribution, doesn't get much better than this (11/11/10 would even in a totally balanced game be the absolute exception).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 31 2012 07:53 GMT
#64
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:54 babylon wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
Anyone know who SuHoSin is? I kind of feel bad for him, I can't imagine him getting out of there... MVP is winning again, Genius is decent vs zerg (and a GSL finalist no less) and Happy is IM's vs Z specialist.


Suhosin = Line. Don't discount him. He's pretty damn good when he chooses to be.

Parting hates his Zergy group.

Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.

PuMa would be a better choice then by that logic.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 31 2012 07:54 GMT
#65
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:54 babylon wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
Anyone know who SuHoSin is? I kind of feel bad for him, I can't imagine him getting out of there... MVP is winning again, Genius is decent vs zerg (and a GSL finalist no less) and Happy is IM's vs Z specialist.


Suhosin = Line. Don't discount him. He's pretty damn good when he chooses to be.

Parting hates his Zergy group.

Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.


I'd rather they held a mini tournament with the players who finished 3rd in their Up/Down groups, and have the winner of that get the code S seed, not just hand it to some foreigner who happens to be in Korea. Or give it to PuMa himself, I mean they originally gave it to viOlet anyway who is Korean, so yeh. Maybe viOlet didn't decline in any case, but people seem to think he did.



Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 31 2012 07:56 GMT
#66
On May 31 2012 16:53 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:54 babylon wrote:
[quote]
Suhosin = Line. Don't discount him. He's pretty damn good when he chooses to be.

Parting hates his Zergy group.

Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.

PuMa would be a better choice then by that logic.

True.

The "downside" to taking a korean on that seed is that it could likely hurt you in the season ticket sales but I would guess that PuMa has enough foreign fans that he'd not really create that same problem.

If they for example would give a Code S seed to IM Yongwha (first Korean in Code B without huge foreign fanbase I thought of) now that would cost them a truckload of money.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 31 2012 07:57 GMT
#67
On May 31 2012 16:54 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:54 babylon wrote:
[quote]
Suhosin = Line. Don't discount him. He's pretty damn good when he chooses to be.

Parting hates his Zergy group.

Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.


I'd rather they held a mini tournament with the players who finished 3rd in their Up/Down groups, and have the winner of that get the code S seed, not just hand it to some foreigner who happens to be in Korea. Or give it to PuMa himself, I mean they originally gave it to viOlet anyway who is Korean, so yeh. Maybe viOlet didn't decline in any case, but people seem to think he did.




For creating the strongest league possible your bolded idea would be the best idea. However that is not Gom's goal, they're running a business and giving a seed or two to foreigners increases season ticket sale by a lot.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 31 2012 07:59 GMT
#68
On May 31 2012 16:57 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:54 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
[quote]
Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.


I'd rather they held a mini tournament with the players who finished 3rd in their Up/Down groups, and have the winner of that get the code S seed, not just hand it to some foreigner who happens to be in Korea. Or give it to PuMa himself, I mean they originally gave it to viOlet anyway who is Korean, so yeh. Maybe viOlet didn't decline in any case, but people seem to think he did.




For creating the strongest league possible your bolded idea would be the best idea. However that is not Gom's goal, they're running a business and giving a seed or two to foreigners increases season ticket sale by a lot.


That is fine, but NightEnd doesn't exactly have a big fan base. I mean maybe some extras will tune in to see how he fares, but I bet plenty also wouldn't really care less.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 31 2012 08:01 GMT
#69
On May 31 2012 16:59 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:57 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:54 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
[quote]
Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.


I'd rather they held a mini tournament with the players who finished 3rd in their Up/Down groups, and have the winner of that get the code S seed, not just hand it to some foreigner who happens to be in Korea. Or give it to PuMa himself, I mean they originally gave it to viOlet anyway who is Korean, so yeh. Maybe viOlet didn't decline in any case, but people seem to think he did.




For creating the strongest league possible your bolded idea would be the best idea. However that is not Gom's goal, they're running a business and giving a seed or two to foreigners increases season ticket sale by a lot.


That is fine, but NightEnd doesn't exactly have a big fan base. I mean maybe some extras will tune in to see how he fares, but I bet plenty also wouldn't really care less.

Which is why NightEnd won't be your first pick becuase he also hasn't had OMGWTF Amazing results lately either. It does however make for a good last resort pick after your initial ones (and ThorZaIN viOlet are simply the best picks) don't both come.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 31 2012 08:01 GMT
#70
On May 31 2012 16:49 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 16:39 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:37 Wroshe wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:31 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:29 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On May 31 2012 16:26 S_SienZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:55 ObliviousNA wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:54 babylon wrote:
On May 31 2012 15:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
Anyone know who SuHoSin is? I kind of feel bad for him, I can't imagine him getting out of there... MVP is winning again, Genius is decent vs zerg (and a GSL finalist no less) and Happy is IM's vs Z specialist.


Suhosin = Line. Don't discount him. He's pretty damn good when he chooses to be.

Parting hates his Zergy group.

Ah, I didn't make the connection. Yeah I guess not as terrible for him. I still can't see him beating MVP or Happy though.

Funny considering this guy got famous for knocking Mvp out of Super tournament.


Ganzi Beat Mvp in that tournament.


Owait. LOL my bad.

This guy was the guy that MKP knocked out with Mech on Terminus wasn't he? Who did he knock out again?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament/Group_D

The demise of Jinro

In retrospect Jinro also really got bent over with those maps. That was still old Belshir with what feels like 96 different entrances to your natural (ok, ok, 3) and then of course Metalopolis in TvZ.

Can't remember the games close enough to know how well he played but at least the maps did not help.


the matches were extremely one sided if i recall, lots of mutas just raping. That's my memory. Could be wrong But yeh I was just sad after seeing his name there, this was one of the last times we saw him in gsl i guess.

And yeh I like seeds in general, but I think NightEnd getting one just seems a little weird. Thorzain won dreamhack, violet won MLG, that makes perfect sense. NightEnd is a decent player with no results but so happens to be in Korea, so they hand out a seed to him on a silver platter. I know he's been kicking ass on KR GM ladder, but that hardly qualifies lol.
Nothing against NightEnd, he has the coolest voice ever and I'd like to see him succed



To be fair it's not that NightEnd has no results, just not as prominent as others have. He got 3rd/4th at DreamHack Winter after giving PuMa a run for his money in the semi final. Which already made him a better choice then IdrA at the time but then again that also was a last minute replacement (NaNiwa's probe rush) so they likely couldn't be picky or else have an empty slot.

But just think about it: which other foreigner living in Korea would make more sense? Only other ones I could think of would be SaSe or else TLO/DeathAngel but those have hardly any recent results except for making it very far in Code A Qualifier(s).

-> Also I didn't say that NightEnd was a natural pick. I speculated on him being a replacement for viOlet. I do feel however that he'd be pretty much the best available substitute.


First question i want to ask you?
Do you think Nightend can legitimately challenged the Code S player and he is a deserving Code S player?

But then we dun really know whether or not violet rejected the Code S seed.
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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
May 31 2012 08:09 GMT
#71
On May 31 2012 15:58 Amlitzer wrote:
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On May 31 2012 15:39 Boblhead wrote:
stop giving foreigners seeds, even violet is iffy for me. Foreigners like all others just get knocked out first round, for the few who get mirror match ups like huk/naniwa in which they are good at then its different. But srsly mr chae needs to stop giving them seeds.

Can't blame Mr. Chae for needing to cater to foreigners in order to put food on the table. Once the GSL becomes sufficiently popular enough I'm sure he will stop giving out these petty seeds, but in till then it's just good business sense. It also seems strange that GOM would give a seed to viOlet when he is in America dodging his military service.

Source on the bolded?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 31 2012 08:10 GMT
#72
Intresting GOM keeps throwing Foreigners to the lions. Thorzain might actualy do descently, though in the end it's just sad for korean pro gamers.
kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
May 31 2012 08:16 GMT
#73
NOT STEPHANO?
It's all about the journey, not the outcome.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 31 2012 08:17 GMT
#74
Naniwa vs Nestea

DRAAAMMAAAAA!
I had a good night of sleep.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 31 2012 08:18 GMT
#75
On May 31 2012 17:16 kaelle_sc wrote:
NOT STEPHANO?

one, these brackets and players aren't final. two, stephano isn't going to korea until August.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 31 2012 08:18 GMT
#76
Marineking vs Parting. Naniwa vs Nestea? totally randomized guys
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 08:27:16
May 31 2012 08:19 GMT
#77
Players at MLG Spring Championships (best to have them play in week 2)
MarineKing
DongRaeGu
GanZi
MC
Ryung
viOLet
Symbol
Leenock

Oz
ThorZaIN
(seeded into open bracket)

Players at DreamHack Open Summer (best to have them play in week 1)
HerO
NaNiwa
GanZi
TaeJa
ThorZaIN

wow ThorZaIN and GanZi going to both, gonna be hard to schedule those guys.
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 31 2012 08:20 GMT
#78
On May 31 2012 17:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Marineking vs Parting. Naniwa vs Nestea? totally randomized guys


Plus Ganzi vs MC.LOL
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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
May 31 2012 08:24 GMT
#79
give code a seeds gomtv...
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
May 31 2012 08:24 GMT
#80
On May 31 2012 17:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Marineking vs Parting. Naniwa vs Nestea? totally randomized guys


my thoughts exactly haha, so obvious that its not random }} but what to do what to do. will be fun to play either way
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