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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 01:49:23
July 19 2012 01:48 GMT
#1921
Does anyone know anything about the IMMvp account that is currently mid-90s GM? I am bronze, and thus have not played him, but considering the whole thing with the fake NesTea, I'm curious.

Profile:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3285610/1/IMMvp/
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jsdk
Profile Joined February 2011
63 Posts
July 19 2012 01:55 GMT
#1922
This is Mvp's real NA account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2795895/LGIMMvp
That's a fake Mvp, but that doesn't imply that they maphack, so it's kind of offtopic.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
July 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#1923
On July 19 2012 10:48 Psychonian wrote:
Does anyone know anything about the IMMvp account that is currently mid-90s GM? I am bronze, and thus have not played him, but considering the whole thing with the fake NesTea, I'm curious.

Profile:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3285610/1/IMMvp/


Let's not accuse simply based on account name
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 02:11:30
July 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#1924
Sorry, I was just curious if anyone knew anything.

I did look at the match history though, and saw not a single loss in over 2 weeks.

If that's not MVP, then this seems legit..
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Dzerzhinsky
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland327 Posts
July 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#1925
On July 19 2012 10:48 Psychonian wrote:
Does anyone know anything about the IMMvp account that is currently mid-90s GM? I am bronze, and thus have not played him, but considering the whole thing with the fake NesTea, I'm curious.

Profile:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3285610/1/IMMvp/

There's another thread about account levelling that claims IMMvp is being levelled by Naama.
"All science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things coincided directly."
skrillex123
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 22:07:59
July 19 2012 21:45 GMT
#1926
No hack, not leveled.... and no relation to fake NesTea...

doodsmack just keep creating fake rumor and thread trying to dishonour me. i really don't understand why the hate. his teammates left and he got a huge pool and proceeded to kill my team who had no money and no idea how to play the game. then continued to bm me and create lies to drag my name through the dirt.

already had a bunch of people vouch for me.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#1927
On July 20 2012 06:45 skrillex123 wrote:
No hack, not leveled.... and no relation to fake NesTea...

doodsmack just keep creating fake rumor and thread trying to dishonour me. i really don't understand why the hate. his teammates left and he got a huge pool and proceeded to kill my team who had no money and no idea how to play the game. then continued to bm me and create lies to drag my name through the dirt.

already had a bunch of people vouch for me.

What?

SEEMS LEGIT
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WobbleZz
Profile Joined June 2012
1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 00:57:53
July 20 2012 05:22 GMT
#1928
On July 20 2012 06:45 skrillex123 wrote:
No hack, not leveled.... and no relation to fake NesTea...

doodsmack just keep creating fake rumor and thread trying to dishonour me. i really don't understand why the hate. his teammates left and he got a huge pool and proceeded to kill my team who had no money and no idea how to play the game. then continued to bm me and create lies to drag my name through the dirt.

already had a bunch of people vouch for me.



So you're a GM who couldn't 3 v 1 against a single diamond player. Not to mention your teammates are also diamond in 1 v 1's ...
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
July 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#1929
On July 20 2012 14:22 WobbleZz wrote:
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On July 20 2012 06:45 skrillex123 wrote:
No hack, not leveled.... and no relation to fake NesTea...

doodsmack just keep creating fake rumor and thread trying to dishonour me. i really don't understand why the hate. his teammates left and he got a huge pool and proceeded to kill my team who had no money and no idea how to play the game. then continued to bm me and create lies to drag my name through the dirt.

already had a bunch of people vouch for me.



So you're a GM who couldn't 3 v 1 against a single Diamond player. Not to mention your teammates are also diamond in 1 v 1's ...


This thread is about people who maphack, not those who get leveled up by someone else (unless that person is using mh). Let's keep on track please!
AltOptimus
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands115 Posts
July 20 2012 14:10 GMT
#1930
a friend of me just played a possibly new maphacker, can someone investigate?

replay:http://www.mediafire.com/?3lonkto1a0ttjj9
I think you're already on active duty
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 20 2012 17:13 GMT
#1931
First of all, upload it to drop.sc and then I'll look at it.

Second of all I can't look at it right now anyway because I won't be on my computer that runs SC2 halfway decent until tomorrow.

I'll check it out then though.
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AltOptimus
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands115 Posts
July 20 2012 18:53 GMT
#1932
On July 21 2012 02:13 Psychonian wrote:
First of all, upload it to drop.sc and then I'll look at it.

Second of all I can't look at it right now anyway because I won't be on my computer that runs SC2 halfway decent until tomorrow.

I'll check it out then though.


im sorry for not uploading to drop.sc i never used it, i dont see a difference between mediafire and drop.sc but i will upload it later today.
I think you're already on active duty
Gimix
Profile Joined October 2010
United States67 Posts
July 20 2012 19:35 GMT
#1933
Is it possible to turn a maphack off midgame?

As in, use it to find your opponents build order or detect cheese and then turn it off when the coast is clear?
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 20 2012 19:43 GMT
#1934
You'd have to ask a hacker on that one. Lol
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RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 23:46:56
July 20 2012 23:38 GMT
#1935
On June 26 2012 13:43 acrimoneyius wrote:
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On June 26 2012 12:13 -stOpSKY- wrote:
On June 26 2012 07:58 acrimoneyius wrote:
GEGTgaulzi
Very suspicious shift clicking with his probe before he knows where I am, then proceeds to cannon rush me.

http://drop.sc/207882


How is that a MH? Please explain.

He proceeds to scout bottom first, then he finds you cannon rushes you. You then lift and he scouts gold to see if you landed there and when you didn't he scouted his third. If he was a maphacker he would have gone straight to the third.

I think the only thing this replay shows is you being a douche and lifting off when you lost the game.


He repeatedly puts his camera at my location before arriving there, AND shift queue's his probes on several mineral patches. I was only BM because he cannon rushed and was either hacking or got extremely lucky on a 4 player map with a lame strategy. I'm a douche? Go fuck yourself.

User was temp banned for this post.


Gaulzi 99% doesn't maphack. He streams almost every game, he cannon rushes almost every game, he knows what he's doing.

This thread is now serving a duel purpose of exposing maphackers and allowing idiots and sore losers to self-expose themselves

Edit to avoid double posts:

"Is it possible to turn a maphack off midgame?

As in, use it to find your opponents build order or detect cheese and then turn it off when the coast is clear?"

Sounds like more trouble than it's worth to me ~_~
I <3 StarCraft.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
July 21 2012 00:06 GMT
#1936
You can definitely toggle cheats, although there really isn't any point in doing so in sc2 (since that information you got might become irrelevant if they change their mind)
aka SethN
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 01:43:09
July 21 2012 01:39 GMT
#1937
On July 21 2012 04:35 Gimix wrote:
Is it possible to turn a maphack off midgame?

As in, use it to find your opponents build order or detect cheese and then turn it off when the coast is clear?


Doubt you can turn it off in the middle of a game, once things are revealed on the minimap, I couldn't imagine them disappearing - would have to verify if that is exact. Though, on wc3 mh couldn't be turned off in the middle of the game (assuming it's the same on sc2).

On July 21 2012 03:53 AltOptimus wrote:
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On July 21 2012 02:13 Psychonian wrote:
First of all, upload it to drop.sc and then I'll look at it.

Second of all I can't look at it right now anyway because I won't be on my computer that runs SC2 halfway decent until tomorrow.

I'll check it out then though.


im sorry for not uploading to drop.sc i never used it, i dont see a difference between mediafire and drop.sc but i will upload it later today.


On drop.sc, you can search for multiple replays of the same players, see the date played, his race/apm, chat logs and link to his battle.net account, which is not the case on mediafire. Also, please post timings to look at in the replay.
Matisyahu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden42 Posts
July 21 2012 04:11 GMT
#1938
best thread I read here. Lightpwner is so funny.
all the ppl that are against this thread, plz send us your replays
come one blizz, u can do better!
AltOptimus
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 09:10:38
July 21 2012 09:07 GMT
#1939
i uploaded to drop.sc: http://drop.sc/225417

note: my friend hit alt tab in the beginning and with alt his language pack changes from english to KR thats why you see some korean characters without him noticing :D oh well, it happens to the best of us.

timings to look out for

6:10 looking at the main base for a few seconds
6:20 looking at the main till 6:30 scrolling to my natural (seeing me build a turret and calling my friend out for maphacking)
12:52 looking at main base and yelling about going 3 base.
14:50 saying "drop" when there is a medivac almost as his third base
16:00 going over to where the medivac unloaded, could be super lucky i dont know.

note this was master league, i hope someone can take a look at this
I think you're already on active duty
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
July 21 2012 12:26 GMT
#1940
On July 21 2012 18:07 AltOptimus wrote:
i uploaded to drop.sc: http://drop.sc/225417

note: my friend hit alt tab in the beginning and with alt his language pack changes from english to KR thats why you see some korean characters without him noticing :D oh well, it happens to the best of us.

timings to look out for

6:10 looking at the main base for a few seconds
6:20 looking at the main till 6:30 scrolling to my natural (seeing me build a turret and calling my friend out for maphacking)
12:52 looking at main base and yelling about going 3 base.
14:50 saying "drop" when there is a medivac almost as his third base
16:00 going over to where the medivac unloaded, could be super lucky i dont know.

note this was master league, i hope someone can take a look at this

You should always remember to name who you think is hacking. At first I presumed you were accusing your friend, as he has a barcode name. Also his old name 'Lazysmurf' reinforced that belief. Only the top of the top logically has valid reasons to hide their identity with barcodes. That makes you wonder why the lower players do that also. Many of the lower identity hiders seem to have other reasons for hiding their identity such as hacks, MMR abuse, abusive tactics, etc. Of course this is a generalization, but I've seen many barcode players who were actually hackers or tried to hide things like that they early pooled or cannon rushed every game according to their match histories. Only when I lauched the replay I realized you were actually accusing KeKsBear (old id: ufna).

I watched the replay from KeksBears perspective and did not see anything too suspicious (as a proof) in the early game, except that he trashtalked all the time. And was totally blind after his scout probe had returned to his base almost immediately after finding the opponent's base and his army consisted only 1 zealot & 1 stalker until 8:00 minute mark. He would have lost if the terran would have been aggressive. Due to his trashtalk, the early game occasions you mentioned could have been just "trashtalk" to make your friend feel uncomfortable. But the later dropship incident made me belief he was likely hacking.

14:36 he looks at the location of the dropship through the fog of war (not common place to look at)
little after he calls the drop out even if he never had a vision of dropships (he knew that your friend had a starport as a raven had destroyed his obs).
14:57 he warps antiair at spot where the drop is coming. He also moves his archons there to reinforce (all of his antiair at that time)
16:20 he suddenly manually chooses all his forces from two different locations (he has no command groups for units) and moves to intercept your friend's main army that is attacking his natural. He does this suddenly several seconds before he has visibility of the terran army

Other notes. His mechanics are quite poor. He does not usually use command groups for his units. He does not balance the probes between bases (his third is understaffed all the time and main is mining out). But these notes are not proofs regarding hacks.

Due to the dropship incident & later defense of his natural he was likely hacking. The early game things would have not been too suspicious as a proof (trashtalking masks things), but due to the dropship incident they became more suspicious.
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