EPTLots of people seem to be under this sort of "So what if there are two replays of this person that look suspicious? Theres this one replay of them that doesn't look suspicious at all so they're not a hacker" mentality.
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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
Lots of people seem to be under this sort of "So what if there are two replays of this person that look suspicious? Theres this one replay of them that doesn't look suspicious at all so they're not a hacker" mentality. | ||
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parkin
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 28 2012 15:25 Black[CAT] wrote: Is there no antihack embedded into the battlenet 0.2? So memory modifications are not restricted? WTF? I was able to use cheat engine (memory modification) in single player to give myself infinite resources. Don't know if they fixed that, it's single player | ||
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
On July 17 2012 20:49 101toss wrote: I was able to use cheat engine (memory modification) in single player to give myself infinite resources. Don't know if they fixed that, it's single player Blizzard let's you cheat in single player, but doesn't give you achievement afterwards. @the guy that posted about 'toggling' in cs; I think in sc2 if they stop using maphack they just lose the game instantly. They just forget to scout etc. | ||
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On July 17 2012 20:49 101toss wrote: I was able to use cheat engine (memory modification) in single player to give myself infinite resources. Don't know if they fixed that, it's single player Single player is client sided (that's why you have 0ms ping while playing vs the AI), so you can do anything you want. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 18 2012 06:57 Mondieu wrote: Blizzard let's you cheat in single player, but doesn't give you achievement afterwards. @the guy that posted about 'toggling' in cs; I think in sc2 if they stop using maphack they just lose the game instantly. They just forget to scout etc. Yup thats what I did to beat the campaign fast was "terrible terrible damage" :D. I didn't care for achievements obviously  | ||
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Fede
Uruguay114 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:19 Budmandude wrote: Do you have any recent reps of his play? I'm curious because I know he hacked as RevSecret, but haven't seen any evidence of him hacking as Terran (at least in the games I've played with him). Edit: Also, for future reference, the name at the end of the SC2ranks link is meaningless, there just needs to be a string there. For example (not sure if this is you, just using it for illustration): http://sc2ranks.com/eu/421994/Impa In this REALLY OLD thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207805 someone posted RevSecret's SC2Ranks profile link, it's the same as the one I posted above, you're right about the last part of the link tho, it's an irrelevant string. I have a replay and if i didn't knew he is RevSecret maybe i wouldn't be so sure he is hacking... He did some suspcious stuff like, NEVER scout nor scan, also he makes banshees and never harrass (because i had stalkers in position...). He even flies a banshee near my mineral line but pulls back without seeing anything. He may or may not be hacking, but knowing RevSecret is a confirmed shameless hacker, I would bet he definitely is. http://drop.sc/223537 EDIT: LOL @ 15:30 he looks at my proxy pylon near his 3º through FoW and instantly sends a Thor to defend... Now i can 100% certainly say he is without doubt hacking. EDIT2: His last game was on 13rd july, so maybe he was finally banned ^_^ | ||
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Budmandude
United States123 Posts
On July 18 2012 08:12 Fede wrote: Thanks for the response; you're right, this replay is pretty damning. I just needed to make sure.In this REALLY OLD thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207805 someone posted RevSecret's SC2Ranks profile link, it's the same as the one I posted above, you're right about the last part of the link tho, it's an irrelevant string. I have a replay and if i didn't knew he is RevSecret maybe i wouldn't be so sure he is hacking... He did some suspcious stuff like, NEVER scout nor scan, also he makes banshees and never harrass (because i had stalkers in position...). He even flies a banshee near my mineral line but pulls back without seeing anything. He may or may not be hacking, but knowing RevSecret is a confirmed shameless hacker, I would bet he definitely is. http://drop.sc/223537 EDIT: LOL @ 15:30 he looks at my proxy pylon near his 3º through FoW and instantly sends a Thor to defend... Now i can 100% certainly say he is without doubt hacking. EDIT2: His last game was on 13rd july, so maybe he was finally banned ^_^ | ||
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
http://drop.sc/223786 | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On July 19 2012 01:09 area51Hellokitty wrote: people like this are so fucking obvious http://drop.sc/223786 You're joking right? | ||
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
you must have not seen how he perfect counters everything! :D Blindly. | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On July 19 2012 03:59 area51Hellokitty wrote: you must have not seen how he perfect counters everything! :D Blindly. All it seemed to me was he got a basic build order win, 1-1-1 vs 1-base Protoss all-in. He commits to the all-in blind too - he starts his factory + second gas before he could even tell you were gonna 1-base. He then played a pretty normal TvP from an early advantage which he didn't mess up. He got caught with his army out of position plenty of times, he wasn't prepared for storm when he pushed out the first two times, and he sent banshees to your natural expecting you to have expanded their faster. All I saw in that replay, watched carefully from his POV, was someone getting a build order win by properly executing and transitioning with a 1-1-1 build. What specifically makes you think he was hacking? The only blind counter I saw happened at the beginning when he decided to 1-1-1, everything else happened as a result of that and the advantages he had in tech and economy Edit: That barcode was a name change from NeebEX, just so you know the identity of your opponent | ||
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
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Rickyvalle21
United States320 Posts
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Crowned
United States368 Posts
On July 19 2012 01:09 area51Hellokitty wrote: people like this are so fucking obvious http://drop.sc/223786 This is inconclusive, I seen maybe 1-2 fishy things but you will see that in every replay. I would say not a maphacker. | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:07 area51Hellokitty wrote: the fact that he randomly scans my dt at his natural, the fact that he pulled scvs to his front for no reason, neeb is a terrible player. he starts a raven even though my dt's never attacked anything, he has no vision of anything i was doing. he puts his army at the ramp even though he only scouts a pylon, he has no info on anything, how does he does everything so perfectly? Let's think about his build; he's 1-1-1ing, which is generally considered by good players to be safe vs Protoss all-ins. He's committing to it blind, so it doesn't matter what you're doing so no need to waste an SCV scouting. His first banshee flies over your aggressive pylon on the way to your natural (why would he send it your natural if he was hacking?). Seeing the pylon, he can assume pressure is coming. You reveal your build to be blink obs, nothing suspicious has happened at all. You aren't being very aggressive with your stalkers, so you're obviously teching, expanding, or both. What are the possible follow up techs to blink obs? Colossus is really unlikely and doesn't make sense, any good T who is 1-1-1ing can just kill you with air units if you invest that much gas and production time in colossus. That leaves templar archives or DTs; regardless, since you made 10~ stalkers a raven is a good investment as it blind counters DTs and it will get a PDD to block your stalkers. Expanding is also smart and standard, as he is ahead economically from not cutting SCVs and your natural is so delayed. From that point on, he has a supply lead and better army and upgrades all game long. He actually played pretty sloppy as far as getting delayed ghosts and getting caught unprepared in almost every engage, but he was still far enough ahead that it didn't matter. That's my analysis of the game, I watched it twice from his perspective at normal speed and everything seemed completely reasonable and normal for a player of our level. Just my $0.02~ | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On July 19 2012 01:09 area51Hellokitty wrote: people like this are so fucking obvious http://drop.sc/223786 I've watched replay and I can't conclude anything other than NOT hacking from this replay. Also, he's close to always out of position when you are doing sneak attacks... I don't know what made you think that he was hacking. Confirming hacker: whysomad http://drop.sc/199012 4:22: On antigua, cross position, he sends his reaper cross position to attack his opponent with no previous scouting. 5:03. He moves his reaper in his opponent base, upground in order to hit a few lings that were down the ground. And that instead of going for the workers (hard to explain, watch the replay you'll see it). 10:31: Stims his army with no vision of his ennemy, to cut him off at the his own 3rd base. http://drop.sc/214537 4:29: rally reaper at his opponent base and already clicks repetively attack-move command ON a marine through fog of war (on shakuras close pos with no scouting) 11:27: Moves out of his natural, split his army to prepare for his opponent attack 11:36: Stims his whole army without seeing anything yet - his opponent was just about to appear in the FOW http://drop.sc/204586 4:54: suspicious army movement when stalker is coming to harass 6:33: Sends his army out to cut off a prove that was going to proxy pylon 7:00: Go directly kill a proxy hidden pylon, then goes back to his base On July 18 2012 08:12 Fede wrote: In this REALLY OLD thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207805 someone posted RevSecret's SC2Ranks profile link, it's the same as the one I posted above, you're right about the last part of the link tho, it's an irrelevant string. I have a replay and if i didn't knew he is RevSecret maybe i wouldn't be so sure he is hacking... He did some suspcious stuff like, NEVER scout nor scan, also he makes banshees and never harrass (because i had stalkers in position...). He even flies a banshee near my mineral line but pulls back without seeing anything. He may or may not be hacking, but knowing RevSecret is a confirmed shameless hacker, I would bet he definitely is. http://drop.sc/223537 EDIT: LOL @ 15:30 he looks at my proxy pylon near his 3º through FoW and instantly sends a Thor to defend... Now i can 100% certainly say he is without doubt hacking. EDIT2: His last game was on 13rd july, so maybe he was finally banned ^_^ Also confirming : Terran http://drop.sc/214200 6:25: goes with few scvs for an early pressure but decides to go back when he's almost at his opponent third because theres too much defense (without even scouting the base) 13:01: very obvious maphack there - moves his marines down to catch off mutas that were flying by http://drop.sc/217382 Same map as the last replay, though this time he changes completly his build (vs zerg again) and decide to early complete wall off - his opponent was going for a 6-7 pool. http://drop.sc/223537 8:29: Banshee changes direction to chase a probe that is going to proxy through FOW 10:03: Suspicious scan on an obs at his natural (obs that was just arriving/was not seen before and he moved his vision back only to scan the obs) 11:31: stares at opponents units in the FOW coming to him 14:16: Goes for a pylon to the top of the map, though this could be only to scout for an expo in a "normal" game. 15:33: Stares at a hidden pylon in FOW that is currently warping in some units. After seeing the units that have been warped, he moves a thor to his 3rd to defend the incoming units. Notice how at the 18 minutes mark, Terran still didn't scout his opponent base nor has used a single scan on it (that's every game - no scan spend on scouting ever). | ||
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Shiori
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intense555
United States474 Posts
On July 19 2012 08:42 ZweiGaming wrote: I've watched replay and I can't conclude anything other than NOT hacking from this replay. Also, he's close to always out of position when you are doing sneak attacks... I don't know what made you think that he was hacking. Confirming hacker: whysomad http://drop.sc/199012 4:22: On antigua, cross position, he sends his reaper cross position to attack his opponent with no previous scouting. 5:03. He moves his reaper in his opponent base, upground in order to hit a few lings that were down the ground. And that instead of going for the workers (hard to explain, watch the replay you'll see it). 10:31: Stims his army with no vision of his ennemy, to cut him off at the his own 3rd base. http://drop.sc/214537 4:29: rally reaper at his opponent base and already clicks repetively attack-move command ON a marine through fog of war (on shakuras close pos with no scouting) 11:27: Moves out of his natural, split his army to prepare for his opponent attack 11:36: Stims his whole army without seeing anything yet - his opponent was just about to appear in the FOW http://drop.sc/204586 4:54: suspicious army movement when stalker is coming to harass 6:33: Sends his army out to cut off a prove that was going to proxy pylon 7:00: Go directly kill a proxy hidden pylon, then goes back to his base Also confirming : Terran http://drop.sc/214200 6:25: goes with few scvs for an early pressure but decides to go back when he's almost at his opponent third because theres too much defense (without even scouting the base) 13:01: very obvious maphack there - moves his marines down to catch off mutas that were flying by http://drop.sc/217382 Same map as the last replay, though this time he changes completly his build (vs zerg again) and decide to early complete wall off - his opponent was going for a 6-7 pool. http://drop.sc/223537 8:29: Banshee changes direction to chase a probe that is going to proxy through FOW 10:03: Suspicious scan on an obs at his natural (obs that was just arriving/was not seen before and he moved his vision back only to scan the obs) 11:31: stares at opponents units in the FOW coming to him 14:16: Goes for a pylon to the top of the map, though this could be only to scout for an expo in a "normal" game. 15:33: Stares at a hidden pylon in FOW that is currently warping in some units. After seeing the units that have been warped, he moves a thor to his 3rd to defend the incoming units. Notice how at the 18 minutes mark, Terran still didn't scout his opponent base nor has used a single scan on it (that's every game - no scan spend on scouting ever). FINALLY. I've lost so many games to these 2 in particular | ||
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