On January 02 2016 19:47 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: hey by the way relentless is nero
Yes I must be him, why don't you msg me in game and I will show you all my replays with a totally different set of hotkeys. LOL
I also hosted clan wars while he played in them on his account... I'm a masters player not grandmasters and play Toss/Terran
I mean he literally plays on the account [lMl] Relentless on stream so it's not really a surprise that yet another new account is being created just to defend Nero and throw hacking accusations at everyone else who provided proof against him.
This account was made last week in order to register for SC2TL, you can make programs to track span patterns but couldn't even see this account was made by me 5 days before the game vs MC. Nice job detective.
I never said he didn't play on my account, he did because he didn't have LOTV on his own account, I gave him my smurf account which he renamed "vagisil" and has played on it for quite some time now.
The problem for you is, where is there a replay of Nero playing on my account or on the account he currently is laddering on that has any evidence of him hacking?
I will gladly submit replays of him playing in our clan wars and you guys can tell me where he has ever hacked.
On January 02 2016 19:47 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: hey by the way relentless is nero
Yes I must be him, why don't you msg me in game and I will show you all my replays with a totally different set of hotkeys. LOL
I also hosted clan wars while he played in them on his account... I'm a masters player not grandmasters and play Toss/Terran
I mean he literally plays on the account [lMl] Relentless on stream so it's not really a surprise that yet another new account is being created just to defend Nero and throw hacking accusations at everyone else who provided proof against him.
This account was made last week in order to register for SC2TL, you can make programs to track span patterns but couldn't even see this account was made by me 5 days before the game vs MC. Nice job detective.
I never said he didn't play on my account, he did because he didn't have LOTV on his own account, I gave him my smurf account which he renamed "vagisil" and has played on it for quite some time now.
The problem for you is, where is there a replay of Nero playing on my account or on the account he currently is laddering on that has any evidence of him hacking?
I will gladly submit replays of him playing in our clan wars and you guys can tell me where he has ever hacked.
Do you have a vod of him signing in on the account "not top 16" or any other evidence besides hotkeys? I have the same hotkeys as 4 people in my clan, what does that prove?
Using clever rhetoric and reaching to draw conclusions doesn't substantiate your claim. See you in the tournament.
On January 02 2016 19:47 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: hey by the way relentless is nero
Yes I must be him, why don't you msg me in game and I will show you all my replays with a totally different set of hotkeys. LOL
I also hosted clan wars while he played in them on his account... I'm a masters player not grandmasters and play Toss/Terran
I mean he literally plays on the account [lMl] Relentless on stream so it's not really a surprise that yet another new account is being created just to defend Nero and throw hacking accusations at everyone else who provided proof against him.
This account was made last week in order to register for SC2TL, you can make programs to track span patterns but couldn't even see this account was made by me 5 days before the game vs MC. Nice job detective.
I never said he didn't play on my account, he did because he didn't have LOTV on his own account, I gave him my smurf account which he renamed "vagisil" and has played on it for quite some time now.
The problem for you is, where is there a replay of Nero playing on my account or on the account he currently is laddering on that has any evidence of him hacking?
I will gladly submit replays of him playing in our clan wars and you guys can tell me where he has ever hacked.
Do you have a vod of him signing in on the account "not top 16" or any other evidence besides hotkeys? I have the same hotkeys as 4 people in my clan, what does that prove?
Using clever rhetoric and reaching to draw conclusions doesn't substantiate your claim. See you in the tournament.
The account Nero streams kr on was blitznoble. NOTOPSIXTEEN was name changed from blitznoble and on battle.net it showed the old name with the same game count as Nero. I guess its possible that it could have been someone else with the same game count,same type of bm, same hotkeys, and same apm but the odds of that are slim to none. I wouldn't have made a post if I didn't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Thanks for your tips though, I will do my best to make my posts neater in the future!
On January 02 2016 19:47 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: hey by the way relentless is nero
Yes I must be him, why don't you msg me in game and I will show you all my replays with a totally different set of hotkeys. LOL
I also hosted clan wars while he played in them on his account... I'm a masters player not grandmasters and play Toss/Terran
I mean he literally plays on the account [lMl] Relentless on stream so it's not really a surprise that yet another new account is being created just to defend Nero and throw hacking accusations at everyone else who provided proof against him.
This account was made last week in order to register for SC2TL, you can make programs to track span patterns but couldn't even see this account was made by me 5 days before the game vs MC. Nice job detective.
I never said he didn't play on my account, he did because he didn't have LOTV on his own account, I gave him my smurf account which he renamed "vagisil" and has played on it for quite some time now.
The problem for you is, where is there a replay of Nero playing on my account or on the account he currently is laddering on that has any evidence of him hacking?
I will gladly submit replays of him playing in our clan wars and you guys can tell me where he has ever hacked.
Do you have a vod of him signing in on the account "not top 16" or any other evidence besides hotkeys? I have the same hotkeys as 4 people in my clan, what does that prove?
Using clever rhetoric and reaching to draw conclusions doesn't substantiate your claim. See you in the tournament.
The account Nero streams kr on was blitznoble. NOTOPSIXTEEN was name changed from blitznoble and on battle.net it showed the old name with the same game count as Nero. I guess its possible that it could have been someone else with the same game count,same type of bm, same hotkeys, and same apm but the odds of that are slim to none. I wouldn't have made a post if I didn't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Thanks for your tips though, I will do my best to make my posts neater in the future!
I think you can conclude pretty well the identity of a player by looking not only at the hotkeys, but the spam patterns, especially at the start of the game. So well, if you two truly want to find out whether that guy is hacking, you can share hacking replays with uncertain player, and know replays of nero, and you can compare patterns. Also compare to the other people in the clan that have the same hotkeys, and you should see that the spam patterns are different. I know this was reliable back in bw at least, so I THINK it should work in sc2 as well, but not 100% certain.
It would require some minimal team effort and somewhat unbiased analysis of the replays from you two though, so don't see it happening. gl in tournament both!
Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII Server: NA League: Unranked Description: My game plan was to bane bust my opponent he does the following...
-Does not scout at any point during the game. He doesn't scan or set foot out of his natural. -Waits to CC first until my hatch has been thrown down -Builds a second bunker at the top of his main ramp in a defensive walling position with no knowledge of what is going on (soon done after my bane nest has been thrown down) -Continues to produce marines and rally them into bunkers instead of making a reactor. -Once my ling speed is near completion, he pulls back all his workers from his natural, brings all his marines back into his main, throws down a third bunker preemptively, salvages his first bunker in the natural, and walls with a third CC. -The first time he sees my lings he immediately lifts his natural, he has seen absolutely nothing until this point.
Honestly, I don't think the rest of the replay needs to be gone over to prove he was hacking.
On January 06 2016 04:21 Sacrilege wrote: Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII Server: NA League: Unranked Description: My game plan was to bane bust my opponent he does the following...
-Does not scout at any point during the game. He doesn't scan or set foot out of his natural. -Waits to CC first until my hatch has been thrown down -Builds a second bunker at the top of his main ramp in a defensive walling position with no knowledge of what is going on (soon done after my bane nest has been thrown down) -Continues to produce marines and rally them into bunkers instead of making a reactor. -Once my ling speed is near completion, he pulls back all his workers from his natural, brings all his marines back into his main, throws down a third bunker preemptively, salvages his first bunker in the natural, and walls with a third CC. -The first time he sees my lings he immediately lifts his natural, he has seen absolutely nothing until this point.
Honestly, I don't think the rest of the replay needs to be gone over to prove he was hacking.
On January 06 2016 10:34 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: i played turboboost on ladder and he was obviously hacking. like wtf this guy is known for hacking and still not banned?
So...do you have proof or are you just going to make accusations? Assuming you only have 3 posts...you were probably hacking against turboboost and will not confront it....do you have a link to sc2overwatch?
On January 06 2016 10:34 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: i played turboboost on ladder and he was obviously hacking. like wtf this guy is known for hacking and still not banned?
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On January 06 2016 04:21 Sacrilege wrote: Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII Server: NA League: Unranked Description: My game plan was to bane bust my opponent he does the following...
-Does not scout at any point during the game. He doesn't scan or set foot out of his natural. -Waits to CC first until my hatch has been thrown down -Builds a second bunker at the top of his main ramp in a defensive walling position with no knowledge of what is going on (soon done after my bane nest has been thrown down) -Continues to produce marines and rally them into bunkers instead of making a reactor. -Once my ling speed is near completion, he pulls back all his workers from his natural, brings all his marines back into his main, throws down a third bunker preemptively, salvages his first bunker in the natural, and walls with a third CC. -The first time he sees my lings he immediately lifts his natural, he has seen absolutely nothing until this point.
Honestly, I don't think the rest of the replay needs to be gone over to prove he was hacking.
I can't believe Nerffy still hasn't been banned lol. He's literally been hacking since hots beta minimum rofl. He was always an easy win though as he just seemed to only want to play macro games.
I remember playing Nerffy on metalopolis back in early wol, he tends to buy a lot of new accounts but often they just neglect to even ban ones he has been using for a long time.
Hacker name: InfernalFury Server: NA League: Masters Description: Opened up 3 gate to counter a proxy 3 gate, no scout. starts chronoing out zealots and rallies them defensively. Claims he opens 3 gate every game, checked the match history and that was a lie.
Hacker name: <gGANK>microHARD Server: NA League: Diamond Replay: http://lotv.spawningtool.com/9290/ Description: ZvZ. lingbanegame. This guy was maphacking as he instafinds all my morphing banelings even when I try to hide them. I watched the replay and he isn't scouting for morphing banes he just sends all his lings to the right location without overlord vision of where they are or where they were going.
Name: NoBS Race: Terran League: Dia but super high mmr, I only lost 6 points and I'm playing almost all top masters/gms Replay: http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/2281688
He opens reaper without scv scouting and keeps the reaper at home- pretty risky considering the prevalence of 2 and 3 rax reaper builds, but not that big of a deal. Sends his first medivac halfway across the map, then pulls it back, sieges a tank in his natural and moves his marines there all without seeing anything. Around 12:00, I send a double drop to his natural and he sends ~16 marines immediately. When I land my 4th, he stims his entire army to go kill it, same with his next group of units and my 5th.
Hacker name: <COREGS> Käsekuchen Server: EU League: Master Replay: http://www.sc2overwatch.com/game/301 Description: at one point in the game he teleports back home with his mothership core and army, to snipe a drop that he doesn't yet have vision off. He does not see me load it up, he doesn't see it any point during its journey, so why he would randomly teleport back home just in time to snipe a drop, I can't figure out.
either he is incredibly lucky, or he is map hacking. I don't think one game is enough to determine that, but hopefully by making a post about him, if other people meet the guy and also see suspicious stuff, we can take action.
EPT
gl in tournament both!
