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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Zeroblabla
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Zeroblabla
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
Replay: http://lotv.spawningtool.com/7007/ Hacker name: Sparkly. Server: NA. League: Master. Description: I was fucking around and went for the certified Rotti proxy tempest build. The terran, without any indications of facing a proxy what so ever perfectly finds my proxy at almost the exact time the fleet beacon is done (3.20). I reckon that spot on the map is a common proxy spot so I wont throw too much shade for that alone. However, later in the game, as I find myself outplayed I go for the good ol "when behind, dark shrine" and the opponent right away builds turrets RIGHT as the DT shrine is done (8.30). These two things when taken together at least indicate hacking. Not to mention the fact that when I was poking with my blink stalkers he seemed to be perfectly positioned to deal with it every time and especially went out to nowhere in order to snipe my mothership core when I wanted to blink into his main (8.30). So in conclusion, I don't want to scream hacker without basing it on something, but at least there seems to be an indication. User was warned for this post | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1387 Posts
"You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.)if you are going to accuse somebody." | ||
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote: Post the replay so others can look at it.... and dont forgot what it says at the top of the topic: "You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.)if you are going to accuse somebody." Haha how could I have forgotten, had uploaded it and everything! It's there now. | ||
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Split Behemoth
France104 Posts
Hacker name: Braionot Server: EU League: Master Description : I'm going for a cannon rush, he doesn't scout and pull 5 of his probes on mine BEFORE the probe even appear out of the fog. During the game, snipes 4 of my warp prism with blink stalkers, two pretty far from his bases. After his initial pressure it's the only moment when his stalkers are moving on the map. | ||
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freizya
United States223 Posts
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(IMI)Relentless
United States11 Posts
On January 02 2016 10:35 freizya wrote: MC just played nero on stream(http://www.twitch.tv/bostossmc/v/33031818?t=2h07m31s vod). It was nero's old kr profile name changed from blitznoble, which he frequently streams on. In the replay it shows the same hotkeys as nero and he has the same speech/bm patterns that he normally does against others. This is the old thread where he was accused before(https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/3gzutw/brawl_esports_nero_blatantly_cheating_on_other/). His profile on kr(battlenet://starcraft/profile/3/336498953790947328). Watching the vod he had no vision of the map for the first 15 minutes and only scanned to kill observers. Twitch has a second delay and with the reaction time he had to attack the warp prism it could not have been a stream cheat, thus maphacks. Its always the same EXACT person accusing Nero whenever someone hacks. Do you know how many people have said YOU hack? Mirg itself has been accused of harboring map hackers for over a year. If we are going to be honest then lets consider "MapHack" a blatant disregard of the rules of starcraft 2 and the spirit of the game, in the same sense I think we can all agree that ANY type of blatant attempt to undermine the game by breaking rules is equally as bad. That being said wasn't Mirg DISQUALIFIED from SC2TL last year for not only using the same player TWICE but using an Academy player from PRIME who wasn't even on your team? How is this ANY different then your accusations? If I were you I wouldn't be pointing fingers towards someone just because they are "bm" and automatically assuming they are Nero. However, make no mistake your team DID cheat in SC2TL last year and as the clan leader that makes you responsible for it. By the way Nero will be streaming with monitor capture from now on. Next time you want to accuse someone don't just make claims like "its his KR account" how about show us a solid link proving its his account. Strong accusations require strong proof. Until then stop trying to ruin the career of a 15 year old KID just because you don't like him because you lose to him on ladder all the time. He's just a kid, stop trying to bully him. Show a replay of him hacking vs MC, don't just show "A" player who happens to be Terran and is excessively bad mannered. | ||
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Nisticism
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(IMI)Relentless
United States11 Posts
On January 02 2016 15:21 Nisticism wrote: @ Relentless, he linked the vod, don't blame him for doing extra work in concluding it's Nero. Let me tell you it's probably... fuck it, definitely Nero hacking. Freizya was careful, not careless. He linked A vod from MC's stream, how does this implicate Nero? Just because this person is rude it implies its Nero??? lol | ||
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Nisticism
41 Posts
On January 02 2016 15:27 (IMI)Relentless wrote: He linked A vod from MC's stream, how does this implicate Nero? Just because this person is rude it implies its Nero??? lol I don't think you read his whole post then. Apparently there is OTHER evidence to suggest that account was his old account, and he has been accused of hacking in the past. In addition bm and hotkeys provide further evidence. All of this should be considered in my opinion. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On January 02 2016 15:27 (IMI)Relentless wrote: He linked A vod from MC's stream, how does this implicate Nero? Just because this person is rude it implies its Nero??? lol In his post he said that the hotkey pattern match, which historically has been a pretty reliable identifier as far as I understand. Also, if you are going to complain that he is accusing someone of hacking with insufficient evidence, you probably shouldn't be accusing HIM of hacking with zero evidence. >_> I mean.... I have no information about either side here, so can't tell who is in the right, but you're not making much sense with your posts as they are now. | ||
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(IMI)Relentless
United States11 Posts
On January 02 2016 15:52 Cascade wrote: In his post he said that the hotkey pattern match, which historically has been a pretty reliable identifier as far as I understand. Also, if you are going to complain that he is accusing someone of hacking with insufficient evidence, you probably shouldn't be accusing HIM of hacking with zero evidence. >_> I mean.... I have no information about either side here, so can't tell who is in the right, but you're not making much sense with your posts as they are now. I actually said "people think you hack" I didn't say he did or did not, I also did state that his clan was banned for cheating which is true. I made no contradictions, but he has to do better than someone using the same hotkeys. Nero has been playing and streaming on almost a daily basis and there hasn't been one report of him anywhere. | ||
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freizya
United States223 Posts
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freizya
United States223 Posts
On January 02 2016 14:56 (IMI)Relentless wrote: Its always the same EXACT person accusing Nero whenever someone hacks. Do you know how many people have said YOU hack? Mirg itself has been accused of harboring map hackers for over a year. If we are going to be honest then lets consider "MapHack" a blatant disregard of the rules of starcraft 2 and the spirit of the game, in the same sense I think we can all agree that ANY type of blatant attempt to undermine the game by breaking rules is equally as bad. That being said wasn't Mirg DISQUALIFIED from SC2TL last year for not only using the same player TWICE but using an Academy player from PRIME who wasn't even on your team? How is this ANY different then your accusations? If I were you I wouldn't be pointing fingers towards someone just because they are "bm" and automatically assuming they are Nero. However, make no mistake your team DID cheat in SC2TL last year and as the clan leader that makes you responsible for it. By the way Nero will be streaming with monitor capture from now on. Next time you want to accuse someone don't just make claims like "its his KR account" how about show us a solid link proving its his account. Strong accusations require strong proof. Until then stop trying to ruin the career of a 15 year old KID just because you don't like him because you lose to him on ladder all the time. He's just a kid, stop trying to bully him. Show a replay of him hacking vs MC, don't just show "A" player who happens to be Terran and is excessively bad mannered. We weren't banned from SC2ITL, in fact we're playing in the upcoming season after dreamhack, good luck to IMI if you guys are enterered as well! glhf's | ||
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GETSCHWIFTY_69
5 Posts
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(IMI)Relentless
United States11 Posts
On January 02 2016 19:47 GETSCHWIFTY_69 wrote: hey by the way relentless is nero Yes I must be him, why don't you msg me in game and I will show you all my replays with a totally different set of hotkeys. LOL I also hosted clan wars while he played in them on his account... I'm a masters player not grandmasters and play Toss/Terran | ||
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(IMI)Relentless
United States11 Posts
On January 02 2016 18:28 freizya wrote: We weren't banned from SC2ITL, in fact we're playing in the upcoming season after dreamhack, good luck to IMI if you guys are enterered as well! glhf's you were last year though | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On January 03 2016 03:31 (IMI)Relentless wrote: Yes I must be him, why don't you msg me in game and I will show you all my replays with a totally different set of hotkeys. LOL I also hosted clan wars while he played in them on his account... I'm a masters player not grandmasters and play Toss/Terran I mean he literally plays on the account [lMl] Relentless on stream so it's not really a surprise that yet another new account is being created just to defend Nero and throw hacking accusations at everyone else who provided proof against him. | ||
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(IMI)Relentless
United States11 Posts
On January 03 2016 03:52 oOOoOphidian wrote: I mean he literally plays on the account [lMl] Relentless on stream so it's not really a surprise that yet another new account is being created just to defend Nero and throw hacking accusations at everyone else who provided proof against him. This account was made last week in order to register for SC2TL, you can make programs to track span patterns but couldn't even see this account was made by me 5 days before the game vs MC. Nice job detective. I never said he didn't play on my account, he did because he didn't have LOTV on his own account, I gave him my smurf account which he renamed "vagisil" and has played on it for quite some time now. The problem for you is, where is there a replay of Nero playing on my account or on the account he currently is laddering on that has any evidence of him hacking? I will gladly submit replays of him playing in our clan wars and you guys can tell me where he has ever hacked. | ||
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