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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 18:29:30
June 26 2015 18:28 GMT
#9761
On June 27 2015 02:43 Nisticism wrote:
Blizzard relies on bnet reports to ban people then? That makes no sense.


Blizzard relying on their own system that they implemented?! Wow, yeah, that makes no sense! Gosh, that'd be so silly! Making a system to allow you to report cheaters, and then actually using it? Only a mad man would do that.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10799 Posts
June 26 2015 19:21 GMT
#9762
On June 27 2015 02:40 Cokefreak wrote:
Blizzard doesn't read this thread.

Hey, you never know! Psione does have an account on TeamLiquid! :-D
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
SKiller1279
Profile Joined June 2015
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 19:46:04
June 26 2015 19:31 GMT
#9763
On June 26 2015 15:35 acslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 07:33 SKiller1279 wrote:
On June 26 2015 07:01 acslayer wrote:
On June 25 2015 09:01 SKiller1279 wrote:
On June 20 2015 02:09 acslayer wrote:
Name: [Ever] SKiller
Battle net: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5251880/1/SKiller/
Server: NA
League: Diamond
Race: Terran
Replay: http://www.sc2overwatch.com/game/download/133

------------

Evidence - 3 Points in the game



1) Reaction to drops without Vision

Time @ 10:28 in the replay, Skiller's army (6 Helions + 1 Reaper) is found sitting at the southern base of the watch tower. Please note he does not take control of the watch tower either. He has no vision of the double drop on the left side of the map.

At this point, if you were to select my double drop, it is clearly on a queued path to his natural, you will see a green dot by the natural of Skiller. That green dot is the location where my double drop is going.

Time @ 10:48, Skiller's army, without vision, attack moves in to the same area where my drop is going. If you select the army and follow the red dot, the attack move location is just a few pixels away from my drop location.

2) Pre-emptive Reposition of Units without Vision or Indication


Time @ 14:09, My army is about to move out and attack Skiller. At this point, he suspiciously repositions his tank on the lower ground. He meticulously controls it to the point where 100% of his attention is dedicated to defending his natural ramp. He has no vision of my army. He has no watch tower.


3) Unwarranted Scan without vision or notification or indicators (Extremely Blatant)

Time @ 14:24, Skiller scans my army for no reason. He has no vision and no reason to scan there. He did not have the watch tower and had no reason to believe that I was moving out or even remotely close to that location.


-------------

In addition to the evidence placed forward, I streamed the entire ordeal on twitch found here: http://www.twitch.tv/sc2marathon/c/6853858

I have reported this to hacks@blizzard.com as well as sc2overwatch.com




[Hey acslayer Im (ever) SKiller and because of an idiot like you i had my account banned for the last week and have been trying to get it back through the appeals. I'd like to be the first to tell you that you're an idiot and that i also want to thank-you. Because of you blizzard has reinstated my game after an investigation proved my innocence and that ive never cheated as well as given me numerous free stuff as compensation. all i say is before you besmirch someone have proof and not ignorance you jackass, since you wont believe me little boy heres what blizzard did upon investigation:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155750519835352&set=a.97948095351.184360.742015351&type=1&theater


User was warned for this post


I only reported you because I truly had reason to believe you were hacking. That is what you're supposed to do when you suspect someone. If you are innocent and Blizzard has reinstated your account, that's great to hear. I think it would be unfair for you to lose your account if you didn't maphack at all. So I am sorry for the inconvenience.

However, please note that it, although I may have been in error, I don't think my course of actions were in any insult to you personally. I reported you because I genuinely felt that your play was suspicious and I wanted the opinion of others--ie. the people in this thread, sc2overwatch, and blizzard.

Anyway, I apologize for the inconvenience. I also understand that you might hold ill feelings towards me or that "I'm an idiot." I try approach every situation logically and I don't think I was entirely wrong. I hope you can see that. And I hope you understand why I reported you as indicated above. So far, I believe I acted reasonably towards you.

Good luck in the future!

[you accused me of map hacking in a custom game.......as well as acting like a friend because we've a mutual friend, you my friend need to develop a backbone]


I think you're confused with what a backbone is. I reported you because after analyzing the replay, it looked very suspicious at those 3 time points. So suspicious that even when the hacks team at blizzard reviewed it initially, they banned your account. This means that even they believed it looked egregious enough for them to impose a sanction on your account.

At the end, after fighting for your account back, Blizzard did get reinstate you-- but to suggest that I need to do develop a backbone makes no sense to me. You say that I was "acting like a friend." You mean I was friendly to you during the games we played? Yeah that's because I wasn't going to be rude. When I found out your play was suspicious, I reported you as anyone would have.

I won't post about this issue again and I think you should calm down.

[lol keep lying to save face we played 2 custom games vs each other because we were waiting for a mutual fried to join us and when he didnt afterwards you concluded with add me to friends list and if i need help feel free to ask....then you report me forhacking and you question backbone comment lol grow up man]


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Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
June 27 2015 02:16 GMT
#9764
Why does it not make sense you politely ask? Well, because everyone and their grandmother has reported everyone listed in this thread and more. And no one gets banned. Not to mention - reports are small text messages. Not replays.
NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
prOpSnuffe
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden241 Posts
June 27 2015 14:14 GMT
#9765
Name: Testosterone
Battle net: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/4811875225777995776
Server: EU
League: Master
Race: Terran
Replay: http://sc2overwatch.com/game/136

He opens cc first with no scout. I go for a early roach rush and he builds a bunker and siege tank. He starts a second bunker without seeing anything. And of course he pulls scvs towards the bunker with no vision at all, a very blatant maphacker.
Best starcraft 2 player of all time? INnoVation
mobo95
Profile Joined May 2015
Germany10 Posts
June 27 2015 21:45 GMT
#9766
On June 27 2015 23:14 prOpSnuffe wrote:
Name: Testosterone
Battle net: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/4811875225777995776
Server: EU
League: Master
Race: Terran
Replay: http://sc2overwatch.com/game/136

He opens cc first with no scout. I go for a early roach rush and he builds a bunker and siege tank. He starts a second bunker without seeing anything. And of course he pulls scvs towards the bunker with no vision at all, a very blatant maphacker.


yes i was just about to post the same guy! i blind-scanned my burrow roaches & perfectly blindcountered everything i did.
TheKhyira
Profile Joined May 2012
115 Posts
June 28 2015 00:50 GMT
#9767
On June 28 2015 06:45 mobo95 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 23:14 prOpSnuffe wrote:
Name: Testosterone
Battle net: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/4811875225777995776
Server: EU
League: Master
Race: Terran
Replay: http://sc2overwatch.com/game/136

He opens cc first with no scout. I go for a early roach rush and he builds a bunker and siege tank. He starts a second bunker without seeing anything. And of course he pulls scvs towards the bunker with no vision at all, a very blatant maphacker.


yes i was just about to post the same guy! i blind-scanned my burrow roaches & perfectly blindcountered everything i did.


I'll just add to this.

http://sc2overwatch.com/game/137

Readjusts his build in TvT and ends up with rax, reactor, factory, cc, double gas with 0 marines or scouting combined with extremely blatant unit repositioning throughout the game.
Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
June 28 2015 06:20 GMT
#9768
Name: DarKLoVeR

Race: zerg
Server: NA
League: GM
Bnet: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3260734/1/DarKLoVeR/

This isn't proof, but it's fishy as hell. Blind counters a 10 pool speed build with a relatively bad build (14 gas, 14 pool). Sends ovy to the right direction first. Gets banes and wins. Not really nearly enough to say he hacks because it could be two separate cases of good luck, but just gonna throw it out there in case anyone else has something to add.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/1733289
NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 28 2015 06:42 GMT
#9769
On June 28 2015 15:20 Nisticism wrote:
Name: DarKLoVeR

Race: zerg
Server: NA
League: GM
Bnet: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3260734/1/DarKLoVeR/

This isn't proof, but it's fishy as hell. Blind counters a 10 pool speed build with a relatively bad build (14 gas, 14 pool). Sends ovy to the right direction first. Gets banes and wins. Not really nearly enough to say he hacks because it could be two separate cases of good luck, but just gonna throw it out there in case anyone else has something to add.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/1733289


no...
Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
June 28 2015 06:48 GMT
#9770
Name: barcode
Race: Protoss
League: Masters

Too hard to find barcode bnet profiles, but he's in the Umoja Delta division.

Record is 82-6 but it gets better

He goes gateway first, into forge after I throw down a gold base on Vaani. Then his probe skirts around the edge of the base, without seeing the base for a few seconds to cannon rush. Extremely obvious maphack just from probe movement at the beginning of the game. The rest of the game he just builds up absolute perfect counter to my build, and that's the game.

After the game someone else messaged me saying he's a hacker...

Please ban as soon as possible Blizzard. I think you'll get the right guy this time!
https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/1733313



NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
June 28 2015 06:49 GMT
#9771
@duckk, so constructive of you!
NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
June 28 2015 06:58 GMT
#9772
On June 28 2015 15:20 Nisticism wrote:
Name: DarKLoVeR

Race: zerg
Server: NA
League: GM
Bnet: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3260734/1/DarKLoVeR/

This isn't proof, but it's fishy as hell. Blind counters a 10 pool speed build with a relatively bad build (14 gas, 14 pool). Sends ovy to the right direction first. Gets banes and wins. Not really nearly enough to say he hacks because it could be two separate cases of good luck, but just gonna throw it out there in case anyone else has something to add.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/1733289

I think he does that build a lot, didn't seem like he was cheating to me.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
June 28 2015 07:04 GMT
#9773
On June 28 2015 15:48 Nisticism wrote:
Name: barcode
Race: Protoss
League: Masters

Too hard to find barcode bnet profiles, but he's in the Umoja Delta division.

Record is 82-6 but it gets better

He goes gateway first, into forge after I throw down a gold base on Vaani. Then his probe skirts around the edge of the base, without seeing the base for a few seconds to cannon rush. Extremely obvious maphack just from probe movement at the beginning of the game. The rest of the game he just builds up absolute perfect counter to my build, and that's the game.

After the game someone else messaged me saying he's a hacker...

Please ban as soon as possible Blizzard. I think you'll get the right guy this time!
https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/1733313




http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/6917354/1/llllllllllll/
I agree, very blatant
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
June 28 2015 07:17 GMT
#9774
Thanks oooooophidian. TBH I didn't even watch the darklover replay, just uploaded it because of those coincidences. I'm sure if I watched the replay it would appear he wasn't cheating lol. This is what I get for playing on tilt. Apologies
NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 28 2015 07:36 GMT
#9775
On June 28 2015 15:49 Nisticism wrote:
@duckk, so constructive of you!


You posted a replay of a build order loss where you ragequit without even looking at the replay yourself and 0 things that could even be considered luck or hacking. If you are going to post in a hacker thread at least watch the replay first...
zDreaM
Profile Joined June 2010
United States16 Posts
June 28 2015 12:00 GMT
#9776
On June 28 2015 15:20 Nisticism wrote:
Name: DarKLoVeR

Race: zerg
Server: NA
League: GM
Bnet: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3260734/1/DarKLoVeR/

This isn't proof, but it's fishy as hell. Blind counters a 10 pool speed build with a relatively bad build (14 gas, 14 pool). Sends ovy to the right direction first. Gets banes and wins. Not really nearly enough to say he hacks because it could be two separate cases of good luck, but just gonna throw it out there in case anyone else has something to add.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/1733289


First of all 14/14 is not a bad build, it's quite a strong all-in build used by some pro players in ZvZ.

Second of all, DarK is a Bolivian Zerg who opens 14/14 quite often, he's known for it. The scout first is just a luck-based situation and in a single standing replay can never be called hacks.

100% got build order countered and lost, no hacks.
Losing game? Make infestors.
Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 18:43:22
June 28 2015 18:37 GMT
#9777
@dream 14/14 is not a good build. TLO explained it the best - it loses to everything except early pools.

It's not good against 15 hatch, and it's not particularly good against 15 pool.

@duck zero things that could be considered luck? Maybe you should watch the replay, or.... if you're just trying to provoke me I'll drop it now, because anyone with half a brain can see that he was incredibly lucky. Also not saying GG is not rage and never will be.

EDIT: I watched the replay to confirm everything I already knew, just for you duckk.

I didn't know that he does 14/14 a lot but, it's still a build order counter.

I think both of you missed the fact that I never thought this was proof of hacking. He chose his build before he knew where I was, and also immediately sent his first ovy to my base. Those are BOTH cases of LUCK. End of story. Cool that he's Bolivian. I'm half Bolivian

NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
June 28 2015 19:06 GMT
#9778
14/14 is actually decent on a 4 player map, given so many people will 13/12, early pool, or be unable to scout it. I've also had people go 15 pool 15 hatch and immediately build a spine, just because they metagame that kind of stuff on 4 player maps.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Nisticism
Profile Joined May 2015
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 19:18:48
June 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#9779
Like I said, it's only good against early pools. It's one of the most easily scouted builds there is, when you use it to allin.

Does give you an edge vs 13/12. But since both probably have banes, not much of an edge. Just have to micro. 4 Player maps are so cheesy.... so yeah probably better on them than most.... Or that one map that they removed from the map pool because the ramp was too wide, and rush distance too short, even after editing the map.
NA GM Zergie ~~ https://www.twitch.tv/charmquark_ ~~
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 28 2015 20:12 GMT
#9780
On June 29 2015 03:37 Nisticism wrote:
@dream 14/14 is not a good build. TLO explained it the best - it loses to everything except early pools.

It's not good against 15 hatch, and it's not particularly good against 15 pool.

@duck zero things that could be considered luck? Maybe you should watch the replay, or.... if you're just trying to provoke me I'll drop it now, because anyone with half a brain can see that he was incredibly lucky. Also not saying GG is not rage and never will be.

EDIT: I watched the replay to confirm everything I already knew, just for you duckk.

I didn't know that he does 14/14 a lot but, it's still a build order counter.

I think both of you missed the fact that I never thought this was proof of hacking. He chose his build before he knew where I was, and also immediately sent his first ovy to my base. Those are BOTH cases of LUCK. End of story. Cool that he's Bolivian. I'm half Bolivian



Anyone with half a brain will also notice that you get flustered easily. NA ladder matching somebody who "tilts" easily and is a league below their opponent matched on a big 4 player map. It is very common in this situation to expect a possible early pool or 1 base build and do an inefficient build like 14/14 to guarantee making it into the mid game. He is lower gm so he may not be confident in his early game micro to hold off earlypools so going 14/14 is not far fetched and others say he does it often. Him sending an overlord can be argued as luck i suppose but it is a very weak usage of luck, and buildorder is really not luck if you know your opponents. If you do not think you have proof of hacking at least pm it to friends and not in a thread designed to make people aware of hackers. It just wastes people like myselfs time who is actually interested in finding hackers.
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