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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On April 19 2015 08:51 NeV wrote: I see, so how does it work? I mean, if I think someone is a hacker and I post it here, is someone going to review the replay and give a confirmation, or it's just anarchy? Anarchy! That's the purpose of this site: http://www.sc2overwatch.com | ||
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
On April 19 2015 08:53 InfCereal wrote: Anarchy! That's the purpose of this site: http://www.sc2overwatch.com Whose votes is that table based on? I can't find any way to vote on that site Edit: nvm I found out how to vote, it's not very intuitive though, I wonder how many would find that. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On April 19 2015 08:57 NeV wrote: Whose votes is that table based on? I can't find any way to vote on that site Edit: nvm I found out how to vote, it's not very intuitive though, I wonder how many would find that. Can you explain what confused you exactly? | ||
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
As an alternative, if putting the Vote option in the homepage would require too much work, you could change the map name with a "Vote", to make it more intuitive. Seeing the map name is not important anyway, since people have to watch the replay in order to vote. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On April 19 2015 09:28 NeV wrote: I think the vote option should be the most important feature of that site, so it should be very clear and visible in the homepage. Having to click on the Map to access the vote is not intuitive. As an alternative, if putting the Vote option in the homepage would require too much work, you could change the map name with a "Vote", to make it more intuitive. Seeing the map name is not important anyway, since people have to watch the replay in order to vote. Oh, it's just the map name because the column is their last game played, and the map name is the biggest identifier of a game. Yeah, I can change that link to vote, I suppose. | ||
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Narcotic
Italy101 Posts
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J_EU
47 Posts
Please give our opinion on this one: http://www.sc2overwatch.com/game/100 | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On April 19 2015 09:44 Narcotic wrote: @WhySoSeriOus_IT replay: he is not hacking by any means imo. okay, thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. but you and Nev are also Italian and WhySoSeriOus_IT happens to be a captain of a prominent Italian team, sooo there is that. but whatever I am staying out of this now, dealing with hackers is a losing battle it seems. | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On April 18 2015 10:06 oOOoOphidian wrote: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/6801022/1/llllllllllll/ Terran http://www.sc2overwatch.com/game/98 6:10 builds a full wall at natural before 2nd orbital after I built a baneling nest 6:50 reinforces wall even more and builds a marauder 7:10 as my banelings are coming in, they select all the hellions and attack toward their wall 9:30 turns all units around from mid map to intercept a counter attack 11:30 intercepts another counter attack and begins thor + viking production 13:00 attacks 3rd base right as it is finishing, selects banshees and pulls them before my mutas are in vision 17:50 starts viking and thor production after 17 mutas are in production 20:40 attacks base on left side as it starts 23:30 attack moves straight to where my mutas are coming in to harass this barcode namechanged to |JRB|Ophidian to impersonate me.. lol http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/6801022/1/Ophidian/ | ||
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
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jaf
Italy9 Posts
there is 0 evidence of hacking,he made some weird move like dont send banshee in your main or dont scout your third but also the build is not that good and he made some mistake is totally not hacking... but i think u are too blind to watch the replay correctly | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On April 19 2015 09:58 jaf wrote: how a hacker can lose to a nydus roach/queen 2 base?? like rlly there is 0 evidence of hacking,he made some weird move like dont send banshee in your main or dont scout your third but also the build is not that good and he made some mistake is totally not hacking... but i think u are too blind to watch the replay correctly okay 8 post Italian guy. I don't even know how to argue with what you said. How am I or the points I made blind? He can lose if he is too preoccupied with the front of his base to look at the mini map? | ||
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
On April 19 2015 09:48 J_EU wrote: Im abit uhsure if this diamondplayer might be using some forms of hacks or not, but however i felt he did "intercepted" my movements above average. Please give our opinion on this one: http://www.sc2overwatch.com/game/100 I don't know if it's the same Johnny, but here is my replay: http://drop.sc/396494 1) He doesn't scout during the whole game, he just send a probe to the left and that's it. He just come across the map and attack my third (where my army stands) without having any vision. He takes a third himself without knowing if I was allining or expanding. 2) He costantly anticipate all my phoenixes movements without having vision of them. He only has 1 observer, on the right side of the map, which gives him no intel at all. 7:33 he moves to his natural, to anticipate my phoenixes. 8:34 he moves back to his main, where my phoenixes are heading 8:38 he moves his vision slightly towards my phoenixes as they're approaching, before seeing them. 9:30 he moves to his natural, to anticipate my phoenixes. 10:30 he starts bouncing back and forth between his main and natural according to my actions, without any vision. I ask him if he has an observer, he says "yes", even if his observer is to the right side of the map, and didn't see shit till that moment. It's quite blatant... | ||
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J_EU
47 Posts
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Zode
Canada297 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On April 19 2015 09:44 Narcotic wrote: @WhySoSeriOus_IT replay: he is not hacking by any means imo. On April 19 2015 09:58 jaf wrote: how a hacker can lose to a nydus roach/queen 2 base?? like rlly there is 0 evidence of hacking,he made some weird move like dont send banshee in your main or dont scout your third but also the build is not that good and he made some mistake is totally not hacking... but i think u are too blind to watch the replay correctly @Bold: Similar to losing to a scouted cheese, which happens fairly often (especially since this guy really isn't that great). WhySoSerious acted exactly like he was extremely sure a nydus worm was about to be placed in his main despite having seen absolutely nothing telling at all. He had at that point seen that the zerg opened FE and spread creep outside his natural, but didn't know if he was making zerglings/banelings/roaches/mutalisks, taken a third base, or was about to all in him or not. I seriously doubt that a scouting overseer told him a nydus was coming. As a reaction, he moved all of his units towards his main base, rallied a tank to an area near the corner of his base and put it in siege mode. When the overlord moved out of the vision range of the main base, he moved all of his units back to his natural in preparation for the second nydus. I also don't buy this, considering he didn't even go into the natural. On April 18 2015 09:56 WhySoSeriOus_IT wrote: 3) with that hellbat push you never go into third (usually few drones at that timing), but you just go in natural, and then no speed on lings means usually 2 base all in with roaches/banes or 2 base mutas etc.etc. He saw 0 lings. I'm interested in what evidence there is for him not hacking. Here's another outright lie in his post. On April 18 2015 08:53 JacobShock wrote: 5) he fucking tells me that I have mutas on the way and whines about how broken it is without even seeing them. 6) I tell him nice hack and he tells me that he knew mutas were on the way because I had zero upgrades on the roaches and that I am a bad idiot player. So I went over the replay, the guy does not ever click on my roaches at any point during the game as far as I can tell. to me he is a hacker. On April 18 2015 09:56 WhySoSeriOus_IT wrote: 5-6)Thats a lie, i told you, after the game, that because i didn't saw more roaches after the second wave, it's pretty common expect mutas swtich. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l9mZKad.png) The "So broken" comment was made at almost exactly the same time the mutalisks finished. He had additionally never selected the roaches at any point throughout the nydus/roach/queen attack (I checked). He also did see more roaches with a banshee before the mutalisks finished. While making the broken comment, he also randomly started two starports and an engineering bay, which nobody in their right mind would do at this point unless they were absolutely positive mutalisks were about to arrive (he was going mech). He additionally queued marines while this was happening. Edit: Oh yeah, and this. On April 12 2015 22:24 WhySoSeriOus_IT wrote: Sorry for the stupid question, but someone know if is possibile to cheat while streaming? Because at this point it's pretty usless to talk about WinterSC reaction or "strange" movements in game, if there is no way to cheat while streaming. Just my 2 Minerals. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/340614-gm-master-map-hacker-and-general-hacking-and-cheating-thread?page=466#9312 | ||
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
On April 19 2015 09:48 J_EU wrote: Im abit uhsure if this diamondplayer might be using some forms of hacks or not, but however i felt he did "intercepted" my movements above average. Please give our opinion on this one: http://www.sc2overwatch.com/game/100 darthvader hacks. prepares for a 1base allin he doesn´t scout. ~6:20 he checks opponent´s natural with an overlord. but his mass ling production already started way before. johnny (edit: maybe) hacks. moves his army back to fight mutas he can´t see. (or he used the all-army button to hunt an overseer and was "lucky" to find mutas at the same position) johnny never scouted at all, darthvader with a single overlord on the map. diamond mmr, really? | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On April 19 2015 10:32 J_EU wrote: Ah, Im Johnny, so no, its the other guy in that replay, I dont know howto link to a player from ingame sadly You are supposed to list the name of the cheater on sc2overwatch. Since you listed your own name people are forced to vote on whether you are cheating or not. It looks pretty obvious that DarthVader is cheating in that game. | ||
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
On April 19 2015 13:43 Wormi wrote: darthvader hacks. prepares for a 1base allin he doesn´t scout. ~6:20 he checks opponent´s natural with an overlord. but his mass ling production already started way before. johnny (edit: maybe) hacks. moves his army back to fight mutas he can´t see. (or he used the all-army button to hunt an overseer and was "lucky" to find mutas at the same position) johnny never scouted at all, darthvader with a single overlord on the map. diamond mmr, really? There is no indication in this replay that johnny hacks. He sends his army to kill the overseer not to intercept the mutas. He doesn't scout and goes chargelot archon ... against mass muta when he allready had blink ... come on think a little before you make accusations. Also diamond is/was a big league the skill discrapancy between top diamond and low diamond is huge. | ||
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
platinum playing placement (former master) http://drop.sc/396454 http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/311685/1/ssregitoss/ Funny/Sad replay here I get random zerg in this game, his blind opening against my 3 hatch before pool is hilarious: pylon on the lowground Nexus Gateway lowground (of course :D) 2:49: let's build a forge next ... nevermind he has no pool lets SCOUT xD 3:04: ok, now lets finish the wall ... no, lets drop a pylon in the main because we're about to be supply blocked and who needs a wall against 3 hatch anyways? He then turns around from my natural to my third immidiatly, because why would you check the main if you have gone for a super risky opening? 8:53: He drops a twilight and a stargate for what he thinks is mutas and starts to chrono phoenix. But no, what's that? A roach warren? Lets get a voidray and a robo instead! 19:55 He brings his templars in position for my unscouted attack with my unscouted vipers. Unbelievable that this guy is a 10 time master. | ||
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