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On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell.
I know this guy well and he doesn't maphack. Sorry but I don't understand ZvZ so I can't really comment on the replays.
This is his usual ID : http://aligulac.com/players/9068-Vincent/
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On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell.
lol VeniVidiVins aka Vincent is not a maphacker for sure. LOL
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On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell.
nope no hacks. seems like you were just a bit flustered you lost
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On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell.
1st game: is usual to make 25-30 roach push before make drones for 3rd hatch, also i didnt see any drones of you going to your 3rd base so it was an easy decision... if you blindly make drones for your 3rd in zvz then gl in future... 2nd game: u are losing 0-1 then you pick deadwing? you want cheese me 90%, everybody knows cheese on deadwing is good for late overlord scout so i sent a drone to 2nd base to make a spine if I would've notice ling coming, is called "safe play" not hack... please l2p
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VeniVidiVins does not hack for sure, in the game you posted there is nothing sospicious tbh
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On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell.
Dude, that sound just like a standard roach push from 2 base.
an additional evo, without using it for research? Well, of course, how else would you wall off? If you go for 2 base roach (+1 or +1+1 into 3rd right after you move out is still very strong, why would that be an indicator for cheating?) you need to wall off. So many Zergs go for early ling agression. The Queen positioning is just standard safety.
A blind spore on the nat is nothing fishy, even in masters. I would even recommend it. Similar for the 6 lings. Maybe he just remembered you went for early agression before or gets cheezed a lot? Granted, it is very cautious and you would be behind against a greedy player, but noone seems to be greedy these days, nearly every ZvZ I play, I have to defend early lings.
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Hacker name: [BIG1] Tree
Bnet profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1497670/1/Tree/
Server: EU
League: diamond
Description: ZvZ on Catallena, send his first overlord to the output of my natural, and his second to his. never scout the whole game, very good prepared for my allin that he didnt see coming with 1 spine 2 queens ont the ramp and mass lings waiting in his natural..
Replay: http://drop.sc/393103
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Name : YES
Server : NA
Race : PROTOSS
Rank : Diamond
Profile : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4072517/1/yes/
Suspected hack :MapHack Production tab hack
Replays: http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/5766023
This game seem normal just like any other. towards the end. instead of ever moving a observer to scout expos(which i think he made the obs only because i had infestor in play), He builds a force to take out my top left, and then revisits my expansion which he just had destroyed less then 2 minutes before to take it out a second time without ever scouting it. This move is when i thought something wasn't right.
He is 72-1 in the last week of games played
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On January 27 2015 15:04 K)Vincent wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell. 1st game: is usual to make 25-30 roach push before make drones for 3rd hatch, also i didnt see any drones of you going to your 3rd base so it was an easy decision... if you blindly make drones for your 3rd in zvz then gl in future... 2nd game: u are losing 0-1 then you pick deadwing? you want cheese me 90%, everybody knows cheese on deadwing is good for late overlord scout so i sent a drone to 2nd base to make a spine if I would've notice ling coming, is called "safe play" not hack... please l2p
Yes hello, http://drop.sc/393116 whats up with this then, here you drop the spine in the MAIN after just seeing my overlord.
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On January 29 2015 01:59 FeMo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 15:04 K)Vincent wrote:On January 27 2015 02:52 FeMo wrote:Name : [Tes] Venividivins Server : EU Race : Zerg Rank : Masters Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4290576/1/VeniVidiVins/Suspected hack : Production Hack. Replays: Game Number 1 http://drop.sc/393022 Game Number 2 http://drop.sc/393021Game: 1, both of goes for hatch first, he goes in with his overlord and scouts that I have gone for Hatch - Gas - Pool. This is the last time he scouts me for the rest of the game. Back home he is going standard roaches but decides to get an extra evo chamber (without upgrading anything) and no third base (?) I'm going for a ling allin, I send out my Lings and without him seeing them he decides to make 8 blind roaches, he also repositions his queens (Low energy in wall, high energy behind), He holds easily and just kills me afterwards. Game: 2, im going for a 13/12 on deadwing, this time he pulls a drone down to his almost finished hatchery (without any scouting information, he does not even know where I have spawned), and builds a spine as soon as his hatchery finishes (he does not see my Lings until he has built his spine) and builds 6 blind lings (and 2 queens, but they are standard). He holds easily. The games where played in the first round of the second qualifier of The Saftey Net. Also noteworthy is that he does not have any recorded games @ Aligulac and according to his binarybeast (http://binarybeast.com/player/144658) this was his first game there aswell. 1st game: is usual to make 25-30 roach push before make drones for 3rd hatch, also i didnt see any drones of you going to your 3rd base so it was an easy decision... if you blindly make drones for your 3rd in zvz then gl in future... 2nd game: u are losing 0-1 then you pick deadwing? you want cheese me 90%, everybody knows cheese on deadwing is good for late overlord scout so i sent a drone to 2nd base to make a spine if I would've notice ling coming, is called "safe play" not hack... please l2p Yes hello, http://drop.sc/393116 whats up with this then, here you drop the spine in the MAIN after just seeing my overlord.
obviously maphacker. what else, top 3 game sense!?
I played this game vs VeniVidiVins on ladder where i was going for the proxy 2 gate" He randomly changes his directons of his overlords several time
and then just flies to my proxy. Notice that he saved up larva aswell and 3.05 makes 6lings (notice still havent seen gates) 3.06 sees the gates, so sad lol. ( everything blindly). yet again top 3 game sense!
Replay: http://drop.sc/393119
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omg stop it really, u all just need to learn to play and stful! my spine wasnt blind, i didnt saw ur 2nd lord so i put a safe spine, i would've cancel it if with my first 2 ling i'd not see an all in... then against u storkk, i just save up larva cause no probe scout and cause 4 games before i lost to proxy gate on same map... yesterday i lose 3 times in a row against 11-11, so pls, stop it and seriously l2p... making safe choices cause u know in ladder 80% of times opponent is going to all in u isnt maphack
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On January 29 2015 02:25 K)Vincent wrote:
.. yesterday i lose 3 times in a row against 11-11
No you didnt, the only time you lose to 11-11 is against morrow (who you open 15 pool against) also i have not accused you off maphack, only production hack.
also On January 29 2015 02:25 K)Vincent wrote:
then against u storkk, i just save up larva cause no probe scout
but you made the lings before you saw the 2gates or the zealots???
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but Soo actually does not do it blindly as he sees a scouting probe were as you built your six lings without seeing one.
Also, in the game vs the barcode your second overlord is not in position to see the second overlord.
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Name: IllIllIllIll
Race: Terran
League: Masters
Server: NA
Maphack
Replay: http://drop.sc/393174
I played this guy twice, the first time he opens hellbats, without scouting knows that I'm prepared for them, and decides to not transform his hellions and instead camp out my nat making sure I don't take a 3rd, I go into 2base muta, without scouting he puts down 9 turrets(even though he sees a raoch warren and double evo).
Second game(this replay) I go for the roaches instead of the muta, predicting he'd go hellbats. Instead, he goes for a safe tank(not evidence) because he saw my warren(last game he saw a warren, made no tanks, but this game he did). Then instead of going for muta I went 1/1 roaches, he plays defensive, but I predict he will so instead of making the roaches I make 20 drones, as soon as I make them, he moves out(he was being defensive, all of a sudden he wants to push out?)
Then after seeing that I drone, he pushes, I push him back, he doesn't see me moving towards his 3rd.. I've been suspecting that he maphacks this whole time, so I start doing some fiddling around with my army outside of his vision, HE HAS PERFECT ARMY MOVEMENT TO MY ARMY'S MOVEMENT. This is when I accuse him of maphacking, shortly after he drops my 4th, decides to not drop my main because I have half my army there waiting for it(he doesn't know), as SOON as my army leaves my main, he drops my main with said drop the instant it leaves.
I'm so tired of hackers man, I played 9 today but won't even bother reporting all of them here.
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Hacker name: Egat
Race: Terran
Server: EU
League: Bronze
Replay: http://drop.sc/393233
Terran has not even taken when I built the forge and came up with my sample he has taken all the same worker
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Name: [Bars]FIZik
Race: Protoss
League: Diamond
Server: EU
Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/105078/2/FIZik/
Maphack
Two games:
Deadwing
05:06 Scouts cross position (later did not pay attention when entering ramp etc.)
Ofc, no scout in my base, even with oracle he did not check if I have exp.
12:10 VR intercepts Warp Prism without any knowledge about position.
14:17 Still no scout, but instead obs goes to my proxy dark shrine.
17:12 Checking my ninja base.
http://drop.sc/393232
Expedition Lost
05:03 MsC scouts my probe.
06:20 No reaction on proxy pylon.
19:18 Intercepting probe before she was in his vision.
19:35 Zealots and stalker go to my expansion.
http://drop.sc/393231
Plus, no scout and strange camera movement in both games.
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Hacker name: GTO
Race: Protss
Server: EU
League: Bronze
Replay: Game 1 http://drop.sc/393235
Game 2 http://drop.sc/393236
In the first game he chrono boost same time be Zealots and 2 game he do not know that I'm Zerg builds and below the pylon and always tries to build a counter
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Im pretty new here, but is this normal that accusations get thrown out that easy?
I downloaded 5 replays and they are just ridculous especially the last ones...
Bronze league "cheaters" that get stomped wow.
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