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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Psycho777
Profile Joined June 2013
United States9 Posts
January 20 2015 15:39 GMT
#8841
On January 21 2015 00:06 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:40 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:
[quote]

do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.




Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.


It's obvious your defense is "well, no one will watch the replay." You're taking out of your rear. I had a forge at my RAMP and I didn't have a gateway. Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to do. Even your obtuse self was able to figure that one out. It's nice to see your team got some legit players who are actually top 50 caliber. Maybe you guys can stop employing hackers to make you guys "look good" now. Nah, that would be too novel of a concept.




You're pretty funny lol. I hope people do watch the rep so they can see how retarded you are. You literally built a pylon at my natural 5 seconds after I began my pool and you let it finish. Why on earth would you do that if you weren't going to cannon rush. If you were just going to pylon block you could've built the pylon like 30 seconds later and it still would have finished before I could get lings out. Lol I truely feel bad for you and hope you get some help. here's the rep http://drop.sc/392051 If anyone wants to see this moron falsely accuse me of hacking from a rep that's 2 years old.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 16:29:58
January 20 2015 16:22 GMT
#8842
On January 21 2015 00:39 Psycho777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 00:06 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:40 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
[quote]



Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.


It's obvious your defense is "well, no one will watch the replay." You're taking out of your rear. I had a forge at my RAMP and I didn't have a gateway. Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to do. Even your obtuse self was able to figure that one out. It's nice to see your team got some legit players who are actually top 50 caliber. Maybe you guys can stop employing hackers to make you guys "look good" now. Nah, that would be too novel of a concept.




You're pretty funny lol. I hope people do watch the rep so they can see how retarded you are. You literally built a pylon at my natural 5 seconds after I began my pool and you let it finish. Why on earth would you do that if you weren't going to cannon rush. If you were just going to pylon block you could've built the pylon like 30 seconds later and it still would have finished before I could get lings out. Lol I truely feel bad for you and hope you get some help. here's the rep http://drop.sc/392051 If anyone wants to see this moron falsely accuse me of hacking from a rep that's 2 years old.


I was a new player that didn't know timings, yet still had a comparable MMR, because you're not good and will never be good. That's when I pylon blocked. Yet, no one ever pulled drones like that. There's no reason to pull 6 drones. If you were to do that as a standard response, I would pylon block you every single game and make the pylon then....

That was my first time playing you, and I added you so I wouldn't have to play you again. Your reasons are always preposterous. "you're a known cannon rusher." Your team is known for hacking and you don't do much to change that impression.

I brought this replay up after realizing the person being accused of hacking in this thread was the same person I have avoided playing. Why do others think you're blatantly hacking?
Atreyulolpro
Profile Joined January 2015
Russian Federation3 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 10:54:01
January 20 2015 16:36 GMT
#8843
Hacker name llllllllllll
Server EU
League Diamond
Description battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/10985838611529728000

Blind hardcountering

http://drop.sc/392364
http://drop.sc/392363
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
January 20 2015 16:38 GMT
#8844
On January 21 2015 01:22 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 00:39 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 21 2015 00:06 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:40 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
[quote]

In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.


It's obvious your defense is "well, no one will watch the replay." You're taking out of your rear. I had a forge at my RAMP and I didn't have a gateway. Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to do. Even your obtuse self was able to figure that one out. It's nice to see your team got some legit players who are actually top 50 caliber. Maybe you guys can stop employing hackers to make you guys "look good" now. Nah, that would be too novel of a concept.




You're pretty funny lol. I hope people do watch the rep so they can see how retarded you are. You literally built a pylon at my natural 5 seconds after I began my pool and you let it finish. Why on earth would you do that if you weren't going to cannon rush. If you were just going to pylon block you could've built the pylon like 30 seconds later and it still would have finished before I could get lings out. Lol I truely feel bad for you and hope you get some help. here's the rep http://drop.sc/392051 If anyone wants to see this moron falsely accuse me of hacking from a rep that's 2 years old.


I was a new player that didn't know timings, yet still had a comparable MMR, because you're not good and will never be good. That's when I pylon blocked. Yet, no one ever pulled drones like that. There's no reason to pull 6 drones. If you were to do that as a standard response, I would pylon block you every single game and make the pylon then....

That was my first time playing you, and I added you so I wouldn't have to play you again. Your reasons are always preposterous. "you're a known cannon rusher." Your team is known for hacking and you don't do much to change that impression.

I brought this replay up after realizing the person being accused of hacking in this thread was the same person I have avoided playing. Why do others think you're blatantly hacking?


For the 100th time he did not hack in that game. I noticed 20 instances in that one replay which confirmed that he could not have hacked. Every single zerg player would have pulled the drones when he did. The fact you think its smart to even let the pylon finish vs pool first shows you are not smart enough to be taken seriously with hacker accusations in the first place.

As ive stated you have also accused me of hacking everytime we have played and then whined about how broken mutas are. If anything you are a hacker, because no legit player whines this much about legit players "hacking".
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 16:46:48
January 20 2015 16:44 GMT
#8845
I watched the replay as well. Although the drone pull seems weird its not enough to confirm a hacker. Since you scouted the pool and let the pylon finish then its most likely a very dedicated cannon rush so the drone pull is just an overreaction to be safe

Whether psycho hacks or not is still up for question but this replay that u uploaded doesnt prove anything
RiNo1e
Profile Joined June 2014
Mexico7 Posts
January 20 2015 18:04 GMT
#8846
Hacker name: EZzZzZ
Server NA
League Diamond (Top Master last season)
Description: battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/14010292733843865600
Replay: http://drop.sc/392403

He uses the rally point to take a good look, and later he gets tired and picks units around the map without visión very obvious, no observers vs a widow mine tactic.

My first unranked of the day, its sad because he has playing since 2011.

GL.
zerge
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany162 Posts
January 20 2015 20:01 GMT
#8847
On January 21 2015 01:36 Atreyulolpro wrote:
Hacker name llllllllllll
Server EU
League Diamond
Description battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/10985838611529728000

Blind hardcountering

http://drop.sc/392364
http://drop.sc/392363


On foxtrot he spam clicks his units towards the nydus. On the other map he blindly prepares for the roach push with mines, marauders, bunkers and pulls scvs before he sees anything. Pretty obvious hacker.
zDreaM
Profile Joined June 2010
United States16 Posts
January 21 2015 08:56 GMT
#8848
Name: [ETL] Azure
Server NA
League GrandMaster
Replay: http://drop.sc/392420
He blindly makes emergency turrets to deal with the muta harrass coming to his natural that he doesn't see and has no idea is coming, then does it again in his main. Lastly, he catches a ling runby with his main army with no vision.
Losing game? Make infestors.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10789 Posts
January 21 2015 09:14 GMT
#8849
On January 21 2015 17:56 zDreaM wrote:
Name: [ETL] Azure
Server NA
League GrandMaster
Replay: http://drop.sc/392420
He blindly makes emergency turrets to deal with the muta harrass coming to his natural that he doesn't see and has no idea is coming, then does it again in his main. Lastly, he catches a ling runby with his main army with no vision.


Hackers in GM on NA already? What a surprise.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 09:23:04
January 21 2015 09:18 GMT
#8850
On January 21 2015 01:44 Xinzoe wrote:
I watched the replay as well. Although the drone pull seems weird its not enough to confirm a hacker. Since you scouted the pool and let the pylon finish then its most likely a very dedicated cannon rush so the drone pull is just an overreaction to be safe

Whether psycho hacks or not is still up for question but this replay that u uploaded doesnt prove anything


The thing is, I was pylon blocking every single game for months, at the same exact time and I always let it finish no matter what. Yet, the first time I try to cannon rush, all of the sudden "I'm a known cannon rusher" and it's so obvious. Let's just put it this way, I've played a lot of games and I've done thousands of pylon blocks and subsequent cannons with a pylon. Psycho is the only person I've added as a "suspected" hacker due to this.

I'm done dealing with this team. This team is pure garbage/underhanded in every regard. They deserve no benefit of the doubt or any time of the day. Every season is the same filth. Look at their liquipedia "known for hacking." Have you seen any of them explain how Deezer ended up on their team and why they won't admit to the hacking, and just try to change the subject to something that can't be proven 100%?

This team is stupid. Plain and simple.

Ai.CPU
Profile Joined November 2013
Germany11 Posts
January 21 2015 10:06 GMT
#8851
Server: EU

Barcode Terran

Masters(GM MMR)

http://drop.sc/392421

probably gonna be Shadye again with a new account, blindcounters double poxy gates without any scouting,pretty blatant hacking
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 11:22:04
January 21 2015 11:20 GMT
#8852
On January 21 2015 01:38 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 01:22 playa wrote:
On January 21 2015 00:39 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 21 2015 00:06 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:40 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
[quote]

I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.


It's obvious your defense is "well, no one will watch the replay." You're taking out of your rear. I had a forge at my RAMP and I didn't have a gateway. Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to do. Even your obtuse self was able to figure that one out. It's nice to see your team got some legit players who are actually top 50 caliber. Maybe you guys can stop employing hackers to make you guys "look good" now. Nah, that would be too novel of a concept.




You're pretty funny lol. I hope people do watch the rep so they can see how retarded you are. You literally built a pylon at my natural 5 seconds after I began my pool and you let it finish. Why on earth would you do that if you weren't going to cannon rush. If you were just going to pylon block you could've built the pylon like 30 seconds later and it still would have finished before I could get lings out. Lol I truely feel bad for you and hope you get some help. here's the rep http://drop.sc/392051 If anyone wants to see this moron falsely accuse me of hacking from a rep that's 2 years old.


I was a new player that didn't know timings, yet still had a comparable MMR, because you're not good and will never be good. That's when I pylon blocked. Yet, no one ever pulled drones like that. There's no reason to pull 6 drones. If you were to do that as a standard response, I would pylon block you every single game and make the pylon then....

That was my first time playing you, and I added you so I wouldn't have to play you again. Your reasons are always preposterous. "you're a known cannon rusher." Your team is known for hacking and you don't do much to change that impression.

I brought this replay up after realizing the person being accused of hacking in this thread was the same person I have avoided playing. Why do others think you're blatantly hacking?


For the 100th time he did not hack in that game. I noticed 20 instances in that one replay which confirmed that he could not have hacked. Every single zerg player would have pulled the drones when he did. The fact you think its smart to even let the pylon finish vs pool first shows you are not smart enough to be taken seriously with hacker accusations in the first place.

As ive stated you have also accused me of hacking everytime we have played and then whined about how broken mutas are. If anything you are a hacker, because no legit player whines this much about legit players "hacking".


i sometimes do this too, depending on the cannon positioning. and i consider myself to be one of the smarter cannonrushers


On January 21 2015 19:06 Ai.CPU wrote:
Server: EU

Barcode Terran

Masters(GM MMR)

http://drop.sc/392421

probably gonna be Shadye again with a new account, blindcounters double poxy gates without any scouting,pretty blatant hacking


if it is indeed the same guy (who copied my name, and Shadye's as well) he told me he is rich and has 4 accounts on EU.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
January 21 2015 13:58 GMT
#8853
He don't have to be rich to have 4 accounts anymore, Blizz going for sales when wol+hots are 20$ is paradise for hackers.
Zode
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada297 Posts
January 21 2015 14:05 GMT
#8854
On January 21 2015 01:44 Xinzoe wrote:
I watched the replay as well. Although the drone pull seems weird its not enough to confirm a hacker. Since you scouted the pool and let the pylon finish then its most likely a very dedicated cannon rush so the drone pull is just an overreaction to be safe

Whether psycho hacks or not is still up for question but this replay that u uploaded doesnt prove anything


Been a friend of psycho and watch him stream and custom, he doesn't hack. He's just a good guy and skilled player.
Anesthetic
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
January 21 2015 18:42 GMT
#8855
Hacking is getting pretty out of control, I can't even play ATM because there are three hackers online and searching for games (I think) and I dont want to get queued up vs these guys.


http://ggtracker.com/matches/5750283

http://ggtracker.com/matches/5729896

http://ggtracker.com/matches/5730177
http://ggtracker.com/matches/5730043
http://ggtracker.com/matches/5730026

Kinda sad to see this happening in games I like (Hacking was a big problem back in Arma 2 Dayz. )

RazeSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 22:48:38
January 21 2015 22:26 GMT
#8856
On January 21 2015 17:56 zDreaM wrote:
Name: [ETL] Azure
Server NA
League GrandMaster
Replay: http://drop.sc/392420
He blindly makes emergency turrets to deal with the muta harrass coming to his natural that he doesn't see and has no idea is coming, then does it again in his main. Lastly, he catches a ling runby with his main army with no vision.

I played this guy maybe 6-7 times the night we both got GM, it didn't *seem* like he was hacking at the time (I went like 5-1 vs him, plus its tvt where maphacks are stronger than usual) and I thought I remembered winning from positioning more than macro but I'll definitely go back through my replays to look for anything else.

EDIT: After going over the replays of games I've played vs him, he doesn't appear to be map hacking (running hells up a ramp into a mine, vikings out of position vs cloak banshees, losing to drops. It could still be a production tab hack but I have no idea how to verify that. I'll upload the replays if there's any interest.
Corrosive Balance
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 08:43:57
January 22 2015 08:16 GMT
#8857
On January 21 2015 17:56 zDreaM wrote:
Name: [ETL] Azure
Server NA
League GrandMaster
Replay: http://drop.sc/392420
He blindly makes emergency turrets to deal with the muta harrass coming to his natural that he doesn't see and has no idea is coming, then does it again in his main. Lastly, he catches a ling runby with his main army with no vision.

How dare you try and tarnish the reputation of ETL with garbage such as this. Azure is not a maphacker, and there are various reputable members of the SEA scene that can back me up on this one.

Here's a tip, if someone is in a big clan/team, don't post unless you're 100% sure with timestamps and everything listed.

http://aligulac.com/players/3501-Azure/

If he is playing against people like hendralisk and MightyKiwi I'm PRETTY SURE they would know if he was maphacking and it'd be a bit of a bigger deal, ey?

On January 22 2015 07:26 RazeSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 17:56 zDreaM wrote:
Name: [ETL] Azure
Server NA
League GrandMaster
Replay: http://drop.sc/392420
He blindly makes emergency turrets to deal with the muta harrass coming to his natural that he doesn't see and has no idea is coming, then does it again in his main. Lastly, he catches a ling runby with his main army with no vision.

I played this guy maybe 6-7 times the night we both got GM, it didn't *seem* like he was hacking at the time (I went like 5-1 vs him, plus its tvt where maphacks are stronger than usual) and I thought I remembered winning from positioning more than macro but I'll definitely go back through my replays to look for anything else.

EDIT: After going over the replays of games I've played vs him, he doesn't appear to be map hacking (running hells up a ramp into a mine, vikings out of position vs cloak banshees, losing to drops. It could still be a production tab hack but I have no idea how to verify that. I'll upload the replays if there's any interest.


Thanks mate


Anyway, I won't have a rant without contributing to the thread. On behalf of a clanmate.

[Meeoww] CannonRusher
Diamond Protoss
NA
http://drop.sc/392750

Normally I'd do timestamps and stuff but in this case it's obvious and there's this:

http://puu.sh/eMDep/f2076b71a2.jpg

Picture of the guy literally admitting it, citing his desperation to achieve Master.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
jinsusgsp
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria3 Posts
January 22 2015 10:31 GMT
#8858
Man i think Frozz is hacking too

User was warned for this post
Atreyulolpro
Profile Joined January 2015
Russian Federation3 Posts
January 22 2015 10:53 GMT
#8859
Hacker name [isIMBA] llllllllllll
Server EU
League Diamond Protoss
Description battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/10324571445044183040

Super def play with no scout (adding cannons and sentries just when i'm building lings)

http://drop.sc/392753
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 22 2015 11:05 GMT
#8860
On January 22 2015 19:31 jinsusgsp wrote:
Man i think Frozz is hacking too


someone in a twitch chat told me he was a hacker. he said he was the GM Frozz on EU and its not MiA.frozz who used to be gm seasons back.
I wasnt 100% sure about it though, then i saw frozz play WCS and thought i was trolled :O
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
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