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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 19 2015 02:07 GMT
#8821
On January 18 2015 08:07 SNSeigifried wrote:
Hacker Name:Stephano
Server:NA
League:Diamond
Race: Protoss
Profile: battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/5672873103265366016
Replay: http://drop.sc/392267
Description: Maphacker it was blantly obvious if you pay attention to his army movement/decision making/panning into my base constantly ty :D!!!

Played this guy yesterday. He was random though.

I went for 4 gate pressure with a robo behind it to go into and immortal allin. I walk up to his 3rd to pressure it with the 4 gate and surprise surprise he decided not to take a 3rd base. He also was such a solid player he decided to go 2 base muta lol.

Thought about uploading replay and posting it here but it felt pointless. Ladder is really frustrating atm.

If all this hacking was happening in 2011 when sc2 was huge blizz would be doing more. But they don't seem to give any fucks atm.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
January 19 2015 03:59 GMT
#8822
lol I played the fake Stephano guy yesterday, he tried to proxy 2gate me. I don't know if he hacks, here is another replay of him.

http://drop.sc/392323
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
January 19 2015 05:03 GMT
#8823
Would anyone like to take over the OP for this thread? Last edit was September of 2013...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 19 2015 09:46 GMT
#8824
On January 19 2015 14:03 Seeker wrote:
Would anyone like to take over the OP for this thread? Last edit was September of 2013...

I can try to give it a shot, no promises though.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 19 2015 09:48 GMT
#8825
On January 19 2015 18:46 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 14:03 Seeker wrote:
Would anyone like to take over the OP for this thread? Last edit was September of 2013...

I can try to give it a shot, no promises though.

don't you do enough already
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
January 19 2015 10:27 GMT
#8826
On January 19 2015 18:46 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 14:03 Seeker wrote:
Would anyone like to take over the OP for this thread? Last edit was September of 2013...

I can try to give it a shot, no promises though.

lol, are you sure you want this task? It's tedious as crap.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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AcieDeucie
Profile Joined July 2012
Luxembourg16 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 10:36:34
January 19 2015 10:35 GMT
#8827
On January 19 2015 10:05 KalWarkov wrote:
I'm looking for ppl that played against ppl from the clan [isIMBA] on EU.

I'm sure the maphack as all 3 of them went from low master to GM with 90% winrate this season, proxy raxing on all maps.
I need replays though, otherwise Psione cant do anything.

[isIMBA] Spoof // 40-10
[isIMBA] MikeWarren // 50-6
[isIMBA] DarkKnight // 86-14

None of them was even close to high master before this season and apparently have progamer stats at GM mmr now.


They had a terran who used to proxy 3rax on every map. The guy even streamed once on twitch an pretended it'd take skill to do that. The guy was GM but he left their clan after a short while. His Accountname was Expandable or something like that. Wouldnt be surprised if its this guy. He had a barcode in their clan as well. The guy was like gold lvl thats why he 3raxed/cheesed every game. There were tho quite a few games played on his accounts by a zerg with way higher apm and who actually won without cheese.
Obviously i dont know who that player is, but it seems to me that someone is paying to get his account boosted and then just cheeses every game when he plays himself since hes terrible.

Other than that I can say that besides the accounts mentioned, the rest of isIMBA seems to be legit. We played them in Clanwars before and there were no suspicious incidents. So they are definitely not the same as the ImbaQQ clan on NA.

Edit: typo
StorM_Sweden
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden45 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 16:27:48
January 19 2015 16:27 GMT
#8828
On January 19 2015 19:35 AcieDeucie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 10:05 KalWarkov wrote:
I'm looking for ppl that played against ppl from the clan [isIMBA] on EU.

I'm sure the maphack as all 3 of them went from low master to GM with 90% winrate this season, proxy raxing on all maps.
I need replays though, otherwise Psione cant do anything.

[isIMBA] Spoof // 40-10
[isIMBA] MikeWarren // 50-6
[isIMBA] DarkKnight // 86-14

None of them was even close to high master before this season and apparently have progamer stats at GM mmr now.


They had a terran who used to proxy 3rax on every map. The guy even streamed once on twitch an pretended it'd take skill to do that. The guy was GM but he left their clan after a short while. His Accountname was Expandable or something like that. Wouldnt be surprised if its this guy. He had a barcode in their clan as well. The guy was like gold lvl thats why he 3raxed/cheesed every game. There were tho quite a few games played on his accounts by a zerg with way higher apm and who actually won without cheese.
Obviously i dont know who that player is, but it seems to me that someone is paying to get his account boosted and then just cheeses every game when he plays himself since hes terrible.

Other than that I can say that besides the accounts mentioned, the rest of isIMBA seems to be legit. We played them in Clanwars before and there were no suspicious incidents. So they are definitely not the same as the ImbaQQ clan on NA.

Edit: typo


the guy u seek is Stifler, but he changed to following accountnames: EXPANDBLE -> TonyStark -> and this season TheFlash- battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/11218794339129884672
DivinesiaTV
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland58 Posts
January 19 2015 16:57 GMT
#8829
http://drop.sc/392333

Here`s my replay with Remake, last season 1500 point terran. He played whole game without scouting, stimmind and sieging in advance. He made 1 scan whole game which seemed to be more to pretend he is not hacking (he watched my army even before scanning).

What you think? 10% of my games are vs hackers.

Server: EU
Always look at the bright side of life
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 19 2015 16:59 GMT
#8830
On January 19 2015 19:27 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 18:46 The_Templar wrote:
On January 19 2015 14:03 Seeker wrote:
Would anyone like to take over the OP for this thread? Last edit was September of 2013...

I can try to give it a shot, no promises though.

lol, are you sure you want this task? It's tedious as crap.

I can at least try, not everything I do has to be glamorous
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 19 2015 17:19 GMT
#8831
On January 20 2015 01:59 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 19:27 Seeker wrote:
On January 19 2015 18:46 The_Templar wrote:
On January 19 2015 14:03 Seeker wrote:
Would anyone like to take over the OP for this thread? Last edit was September of 2013...

I can try to give it a shot, no promises though.

lol, are you sure you want this task? It's tedious as crap.

I can at least try, not everything I do has to be glamorous

Templar please stop. you're gonna kill yourself working on this site ;_;
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 19 2015 22:57 GMT
#8832
Name: [imbaQQ]IIIIIIIIIII
Server: NA
League: Diamond
Race: Terran
Replay: http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/chat/1228483
Description: imbaQQ
Cereal
dotadrocher
Profile Joined January 2015
Bangladesh1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 00:07:52
January 19 2015 23:47 GMT
#8833
EPIC Maphacker!
- name: renegadE
- server : EU
- League: DIAMOND
- Replay: http://drop.sc/392340
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Description:
I find epic maphacker! He absolutely not shy to use it.
1)his reaper didn't scout my main(i went speedling), and when my lings came out from natural to his base(for kill scv which building cc), he moved back his reaper, and found my lings
2)since this moment he still didnt scout my main. before 5-7 seconds of my speedling upgrade finish - he moved back his reapers under my natural to his base. At 6.30 his hellions out from base, but moved back when he saw with maphack dat my lings out from base and went to his 3rd base.. then my lings started to wait unitl his hellions will out from base, but, even with 5 hellions he was sit on base before he made wall. Ok then, he started to make blind tanks without vision of any(i made roach waren)
3) at 13.30 he go staraight to my 4th base without vision of any
4) at 14.10 he moved his army to 3rd base few seconds before my roaches came to it(he was abs. blinded)
5) at 15.06, when my roaches came again to his 3rd, he again moved army back few seconds before he saw anything
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Haspe
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland35 Posts
January 20 2015 14:12 GMT
#8834
On January 18 2015 03:29 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 05:35 zerge wrote:
Hacker name: Virdi
Server: Europe
League: Diamond
Race: Protoss
Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/832067/2/Virdi/
Replay: http://drop.sc/392079
Description: Maphack

Blatant hacker, dodges my overlords with his pobes. Pulls multiple probes against unscouted proxy hatch, pulls all his probes against unscouted nydus. The replay is full of fish.


I'll add, he's imitating scouting process but don't see anything particular, many times looking in for of war, trying to build full counter. Although he's pretty weak player which gives an opportunity to decent Protoss player to demolish him in PvP. Interesting thing that I was promoted after my victory vs him :D which is pleasent


This guy is still around, just faced him in ladder. I noticed his name from this thread.

http://drop.sc/392360

I didn't even bother looking further. Blindly started Forge against mine 11-11. 2:05/2:30 checked my raxes through fog of war. Blindly doing cannons on his ramp. This is too obvious, everything without scouting a thing.
"Form is temporary, Class is permanent" - MMA
Psycho777
Profile Joined June 2013
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 14:23:25
January 20 2015 14:22 GMT
#8835
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:49 playa wrote:
I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.

He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going.


do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.


Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
January 20 2015 14:33 GMT
#8836
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:49 playa wrote:
I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.

He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going.


do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.


Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.



Psycho777
Profile Joined June 2013
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 14:51:08
January 20 2015 14:40 GMT
#8837
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:49 playa wrote:
I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.

He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going.


do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.


Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.
zerge
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany162 Posts
January 20 2015 14:47 GMT
#8838
On January 19 2015 03:48 EH.Devil wrote:
name: 9kings Kratos
server: EU
league: diamond
race: Terran

http://drop.sc/392299

blind hardcounter to my cheese


Judging from his army movement he doesnt maphack. Turret and bunker on one base without any scouting is very odd, he could know how you play or he could be production tab hacking. I dont see defenitve proof in this replay that he hacks.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 15:07:42
January 20 2015 15:06 GMT
#8839
On January 20 2015 23:40 Psycho777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:49 playa wrote:
I saw in another thread that team ascension was signing up some of their players for a tournament. Euphoria (who has been mentioned in this thread) was signed up, with Psycho being listed as his aka. A year ago or so, I played Psycho on star station. I had been pylon blocking around that time, and I had just decided to try out making a cannon to go along with the pylon block. After I made a plyon, I went to scout his base. Before my probe even got close to returning down the ramp to make a cannon, he literally pulled all of his drones to try to prevent this. He hadn't even come close to scouting my base yet.

He told me to "check the replay." If that is his defense, he was hacking 100%. Thus, I added him so I never had to play him again. And, games like these are probably why aprilterran isn't in a hurry for people to provide evidence in this thread about euphoria hacking. This has got to be one of the shadiest/dirtiest teams going.


do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.


Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.


It's obvious your defense is "well, no one will watch the replay." You're taking out of your rear. I had a forge at my RAMP and I didn't have a gateway. Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to do. Even your obtuse self was able to figure that one out. It's nice to see your team got some legit players who are actually top 50 caliber. Maybe you guys can stop employing hackers to make you guys "look good" now. Nah, that would be too novel of a concept.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 15:33:38
January 20 2015 15:32 GMT
#8840
On January 21 2015 00:06 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:40 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:33 playa wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:22 Psycho777 wrote:
On January 14 2015 11:05 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:55 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:50 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:35 duckk wrote:
On January 14 2015 10:01 playa wrote:
On January 14 2015 09:54 duckk wrote:
[quote]

do you have the replay by chance? I have several reports on this guy, but the situation you are in is possible. Ive had games against players like incontrol who did that every game and on different maps i blindly sent 4 drones to my natural at a certain time.


Yeah I do. I'll upload (sec). This is part of the reason why I gave a back story. Not only was this my first time playing the guy, to my knowledge, but I had been only pylon blocking for at least a month. Yes, I was pylon blocking at the same time as in this replay (even if it was too early/incorrect).



For the longest time, this was the only way I knew when people would hack vs me. Because no one ever pulled drones like this when I didn't have a forge. Only when I tried this.

Replay: http://drop.sc/392051


In regards to this replay he doesnt hack. I noticed atleast 10 very distinct subtle things that he did that confirms he wasnt hacking, would take pages to explain and since its pretty clear he isnt hacking I'll spare that

As for the drone pull, his overlord saw a pylon, he saw you scout him building a pool and then decided to keep the pylon and not cancel it. At that point its an immediate 4 drone pull because why else would you let the pylon finish when your prob was clearly going ot get back to the natural before any drone could.



I was pylon blocking every game, not canceling whether they had a pool or not, yet magically, the one guy who overreacts is the guy who is being accused of hacking. If that's how people would react, then guess what, I would go back to pylon blocking every game.


Well there is no reason to leave the pylon up if you werent intending to build a cannon. I would have sent the 4 drones just as he did, if you don tbuild a cannon then you send the drones back and at worst its 40 minerals of minning time lost vs 100 in a pylon. If the pylon finishes with no drones out to build the hatchery its assumed by the zerg cannons.


He has an overlord over the pylon. You don't even need to pull drones until a cannon is made, when the pylon is in that spot. He has a pool on the way. Why would you ever need to pull drones like that? I leave the pylon all the time. Delaying their expansion, getting a scout on how many lings they're making, etc, was worth it to me. I don't think people can control themselves when they know they're going to get cannoned.

If that's the normal response, I'm going back to pylon blocking and pretending to make a cannon every game. Unfortunately, it's not. Plus, it was 6 drones sent...




Lol, Psycho(Euphoria) here. Looked at this thread because some top players told me there was an idiot accusing me of "hacking" . Took a look to see what the fuss was about and right away saw that it was the 14 year old extremly immature bad mannered kid named "playa" who cannon rushes every single game from what I've seen. I wanted a giggle so I downloaded his "evidence" of hacks and he shows a replay from 2+ years ago where he builds a extremly early pylon at my natural that I have vision of with my overlord, after sending an early probe which indicates forge expand 90% of the time. I pulled drones before his cannon started after I saw his probe go down towards the early pylon to build a cannon. Pretty standard move vs a known cannon rusher. Let me ask you this playa. How would map hack tell me you were going to build a cannon if i sent the drones before you built the cannon? That makes no sense rofl do I have mind reading hack? After that I continue to scout him all game he still whines map hacks after i scout his dt with my overlord. So ya, Just wanted to make it clear that this Playa guy is very immature and no credability should be given to him. I stream 3-4 times a week in top50/16 gm ladder with commentary at twitch.tv/3sgreen right here on tl. Btw, for all the haters hating on team ascension pro team saying they have "known hackers" or whatever plz give us the reps before u open your mouths because all u do is talk but dont provide evidence. If a player on team ascension was caught hacking with legit proof they would be removed immediately I can assure u that.

Cheers


Is English your first language or 10th language? A "known cannon rusher." I wonder how many replays you have of me cannon rushing you. It's just kinda weird since I had literally just started trying to cannon rush that week. I had never even cannon rushed before that, lol. Just a lot of oddities. "My probe went back to make a cannon." I wonder what it would look like if "my probe went back to my base." He could just tell by the look in the probes eyes that it was more than a pylon block.

Given that I only had a forge, a hacker might be able to piece together I was going to cannon rush, especially given the position of my forge. I dunno man, I can't tell you how many times I've pylon blocked someone and they pulled 6 drones as my probe returned to my base. Given that your teams highest ranked players on ladders are always hackers, you might be in the right team is all I'm saying.






So I knew You would build the cannon because of that "position of the forge" is your arguement? Alright I guess that pretty much sums up the fact that your "proof" Is Empty. Your just making assumptions because im on team ascension and You were mad your shitty cannon rush got slapped down and then you continued to get dumped on in a macro game where your cheese followup got scouted. Like I said any time you want check out my stream to see me winning games in top16 gm while commentating my every thought. And as for your comment "Your teams highest ranked players are always are always hackers" without giving a single example or proof just further proves your ignorance. Like I said any time you have any Real proof of a team ascension Pro team player cheating bring it to aprilterran so we can have them removed. Considering you don't have that please stop wasting everyones time because you're making a fool out of yourself at this point. Done argueing with you because it's clear you are very ignorant and immature, good luck with that attitude, and thanks for the laugh.


It's obvious your defense is "well, no one will watch the replay." You're taking out of your rear. I had a forge at my RAMP and I didn't have a gateway. Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to do. Even your obtuse self was able to figure that one out. It's nice to see your team got some legit players who are actually top 50 caliber. Maybe you guys can stop employing hackers to make you guys "look good" now. Nah, that would be too novel of a concept.

Well you are definetly a 14 year old immature and bad mannered kid thats for sure. I saw you once on HTOMario´s stream where you beat him with just massing Tempests cause he made some mistakes and he couldn´t get a third out. You IMMEDIATELY made a thread on the US Bnet Forum how good you are, that you are so proud of that and whatnot and that you beat the Mech God just to grow your E-Penis. Just pathetic.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/15539466059#1
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