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On April 29 2014 05:49 aBstractx wrote:gm protoss named soulstar seems pretty obvious to me he hacks. im not salty at all either for losing lol. it felt like mh in the game as i played it live and watching it on replay just confirms it for me. he has really good control or he has blink micro hack but idk. part of a team called aGtv or agile, may no longer be with that team though, i think he may have been kicked off. http://drop.sc/379535mu is pvp. he mirrors my build 100%, nothing wrong with that. but to go 4 gate blink, which is an all in, and sit in your base and not play aggressive and not know that im going blink is fishy. if i put a shrine down i can bet you he wouldnt have sat in his base or not built detection lol. when he finds my scouting probe in his main instead of clicking top left of his base to clear the corner, he clicks to the left almost as if hes trying to deny the scout, np here coulda been coincidence. then he absolutely destroyed me in our blink battle, i think i was down a stalker or 2 but ill chalk that up to me being terrible. so basically the battle ends and its like 12 stalkers vs 3, which he chases down (i dont think he saw their initial direction, but was able to find them) coincidence maybe. now normally when its blink vs blink and you win a battle that lopsided you just go attack, and the games over, i was crippled, but instead of attacking me which he was already out almost halfway on the map, he send his units back home. this would be because i warped in 4 zealots in his natural using a pylon he hasnt scouted. he defends, kills my pylon, i warped in 2 zealots and hid them for a run by at my second pylon, and as he goes to kill the pylon with a perfect click (without seeing it) he changes direction to find my zealots, then his waypoint to kill all my hidden pylons is right on the money directly on top of each one. 100% hacker imo
Back in April, I was in a clan, Nova Esports, with Soulstar (then known as BarcodeKiller). He was a master then, but I beat him in ZvP as a diamond zerg player. Shortly after meeting him, he was kicked out of the clan for using blinkhack against members of the clan in friendly scrimmages. He was also kicked out of the clan Immortals shortly after beating booted from Nova. He has confessed to using hacks to me in private chat and has even said he regrets it, but apparently old habits die hard. What's strange is that he is one of the nicest dudes to talk with and even organized clan battles for Nova Esports before he was kicked.
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[InGt]Zest was the owner of my previous clan, Nova Esports (from which Soulstar came out of, who I talked to about above). He was a barcode then, but changed his ID. He was caught blinkhacking and maphacking (I don't have proof now, but it was evident to the whole clan), and forced to leave. He is currently in GM league, and I checked 4 games of his, and every one of them contain a blink build, vs all 3 races. I am not accusing him of still hacking, but it is very likely and you should watch out for him.
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On April 29 2014 09:06 Xinzoe wrote:Hacker: [SEIYA] HaDeS Server: NA League: Diamond http://drop.sc/379548First game, around 3-3:20, he takes a look at my base and then he rallies his first zealot to the EXACT location of my proxy pylon for twilight. http://drop.sc/379547Second game, he watches my probe leave base at 0:10-0:20. After building his 9 pylon, he sends 2 probes (doesn't realize until 2 minutes later lul) to location of proxy 2 gate pylon. Other: He tunnels vision on his nexus the entire game, and only moves his camera to see fog of war. Probably only watches the minimap since he even forgets to chronoboost the second game.
I can confirm that [SEIYA]HaDeS is maphacking. I played him earlier today (around 11:30am EST).
He looked at my proxy factory through the fog of war and immediately intercepted it. Also intercepted numerous drop attempts. Several blatant peaks through the fog of war at my base.
I don't really have time to post the replay today or tomorrow but if there is any interest I can post my game asap.
I did report him on battle.net but I'm sure that will have absolutely no impact
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Hacker: ChOpSeR
Server: EU
League: Diamond
Replay http://ggtracker.com/matches/4995140
The moment I lift my cc to float to the gold ( around 20 secs) he automatically rally's a probe to the expansion and attempts to pylon block it with his VERY FIRST pylon
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Hacker name : Lyn
Server : EU
League : Protoss master
Description :
I got proxy 2 gates on Alterzim. I watch the replay and see he just send his probe right on my base. We're close position so he could just have scouted me first, but when you're in his view you can see he doesn't attempt to scout others locations, he send his probe in a hidden corner before he has seen any creep or overlord. And you can see he avoid my overlord perfetly while he can't see it.
Replay : http://drop.sc/380176
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Hacker name: [OD] Believe
Server: NA
League: Protoss master
Replay: http://drop.sc/380199
6:30: Leaves his base for the first time, to take a third with no vision nor scouting, with a single gateway. He doesn't even know if I took my natural, but whatever, greedy play can be possible without maphack.
9:20: He moves his chilling stalker to complete his natural wall, just a second before my ling runby reaches his vision. This wall was untight the whole game until now, he completes it just a second or two before my lings reach his vision. Brilliant!
10:50: I start my mutas and he immediately goes for a massive attack. Right call, too bad he still doesn't know if I took my natural, much less which tech I've chosen. But whatever, lucky guesses might happen.
11:30: He still hasn't seen my spire, much less my mutas, but he blindly starts warping stalkers at home, at the exact mineral line that my mutas were heading. Brilliant!
After I hold his blink stalker allin with almost purely lings, the real fun starts, where his army movement reveals, in case we weren't still sure, that he, indeed, has maphack.
14:50: He has his army between his third and his natural, but as soon as I rally some mutas into his natural, he immediately sends his whole army to the natural, before my mutas reach any vision.
15:30: So since he has all his army at his natural, I prepare a squad of roach ling outside his third, outside his vision. He, of course, again, as in all game long, immediately warps a round of stalkers and sends half his army to his third, while keeping the other half in his natural to deal with the mutas. Brilliant. Then I send all my army to the middle, outside his vision, so he does the same. So brilliant.
Anyways there is more but that's all I care to explain.
Gl hf.
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Server: NA
Hacker Name: Zest
League: GM
Replay: http://drop.sc/380278
Description: around 6:30 he is rapidly clicking in fog of war on overlord and pylon as far as i could see in replay. When dts are warped in next to his army (in fog of war) he is having his view on dts shortly before they arrive on his 4 stalkers 1 obs.
PS: Zest / Ktflikr (other account) are not part of InGt anymore.
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Server: NA
Hacker Name: [ICGI] StarTale
League: Diamond
Replay: http://drop.sc/380303
Description: He checks my proxy location with camera without actually scouting and throws up 2 gates and core after I do. Very obvious maphacking. His name hold 3 i, l or |'s. Not sure what they are.
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Server: NA
Hacker Name: [KRENOX]CVMAX
League: Diamond
Replay: http://drop.sc/380366
match up is TvT. Guy looks through fog of war without scouting, chases drops with no vision, all the obvious things that map hackers do. You'd think these losers would at least refrain from obviously looking inside your base through the fog of war, but nope! The weird thing is his mechanics were far better than mine, with an average apm of +300, possibly a GM smurf testing out his map hacks or something.
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Hi, I have some replays from a team tournament, there has been indications and discussion on whether the Protoss player used maphack.
Info on the game: both games the Terran players went 1-1-1, and the Protoss player counters almost perfectly, without information.
Please check the replays and give me some of your opinions.
http://drop.sc/380399
http://drop.sc/380398
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Hacker name: dwqidoqoqwd
Server: NA
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/380434
Description:
!! Wings of liberty !!
hacker didn't scout my base at all, not even the front.
- at 10:20 I send a warpprism to his base. in the moment the prism starts, he sends all his queens from all his bases to the place I will enter his base and sets all rallypoints to there and starts production of zerglings. Before that he didn't build army at all. I checked his vision in the replay several times: he didn't see the robo and he didn't see the prism!
- at 12:35 he sends his zerglings straight to my hidden expansion without spotting it before. there are 12 location that I could have build my expansion, but he runs directly to this base, although he didn't know that I do have an expansion or where it is.
- I found out, that he has been accused to be a hacker twice here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forumviewpost.php?post_id=21300163
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21301836
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-Hacker name [vent] conspiracy
-Server Europe
-League Diamond
-Replay: http://drop.sc/380455
-Description He didnt scout me at all, he knew from the beggining where i spawned and blind counter everything i did in the game. Also he told me that i was right in private chat.
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On May 12 2014 02:00 pokechampion wrote:Hi, I have some replays from a team tournament, there has been indications and discussion on whether the Protoss player used maphack. Info on the game: both games the Terran players went 1-1-1, and the Protoss player counters almost perfectly, without information. Please check the replays and give me some of your opinions. http://drop.sc/380399http://drop.sc/380398
without information isn´t true. the game on habitation the toss scouted quite well (msc, hallu). in the other game the terran did the same build again. maybe he´s known for his one base allins, maybe it was a gamble.
anyway, there is one strange situation. toss has the watchtower, terran goes for his attack. toss moves his units back seconds before terran is in watchtower range.
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On April 16 2014 13:47 gdalam wrote:Name: [Brosdn] Cresse Server: NA League: Master/GM Replay: http://drop.sc/378765Description: I'm not sure if he's hacking or not, but I suppose this could be used as a reference in case this guy comes up in the future. He's a Terran playing vs. me (Protoss) on Habitation Station and does a gold float. I do a scout after gateway, and just before my probe passes the watch tower, he pulls his SCVs off of the minerals and then sends them back. This resulted in the fact that even though I did look at the gold minerals quickly (didn't click however), I didn't see any SCVs or mining. Now he pulls the SCVs at 2:10 and sends them back at 2:15, I suppose this could just be the way he does the build. I looked around though and I didn't see any guide mentioning this specific strat. The rest of the game was straightforward/dumb so there's no further evidence. Again, this is NOT evidence to "convict" this player, but I'm just posting this in case his name comes under suspicion in the future.
I can confirm that broseidon is not a hacker.
he talks shit when his opponents BM first, or are just plain retards, but he doesn't hack, he streams all the time, so if he was hacking it would show up on his stream.
stop this witch-hunt shit just because you're asspained about a loss, I'm pretty sure 90% of the "hackers" in this thread aren't actually hackers.
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On May 13 2014 02:09 Ikidomari wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 13:47 gdalam wrote:Name: [Brosdn] Cresse Server: NA League: Master/GM Replay: http://drop.sc/378765Description: I'm not sure if he's hacking or not, but I suppose this could be used as a reference in case this guy comes up in the future. He's a Terran playing vs. me (Protoss) on Habitation Station and does a gold float. I do a scout after gateway, and just before my probe passes the watch tower, he pulls his SCVs off of the minerals and then sends them back. This resulted in the fact that even though I did look at the gold minerals quickly (didn't click however), I didn't see any SCVs or mining. Now he pulls the SCVs at 2:10 and sends them back at 2:15, I suppose this could just be the way he does the build. I looked around though and I didn't see any guide mentioning this specific strat. The rest of the game was straightforward/dumb so there's no further evidence. Again, this is NOT evidence to "convict" this player, but I'm just posting this in case his name comes under suspicion in the future. I can confirm that broseidon is not a hacker. he talks shit when his opponents BM first, or are just plain retards, but he doesn't hack, he streams all the time, so if he was hacking it would show up on his stream. stop this witch-hunt shit just because you're asspained about a loss, I'm pretty sure 90% of the "hackers" in this thread aren't actually hackers.
It wouldn't necessarily show up on his stream. And you coming in here and vouching for him is a lot less substantial than the multiple detailed reports about him in this thread (including my own). I'd love to hear you explain his reaper movements, lack of scouting, and intercepts on pylons/prisms that I wrote about in my previous post about him in this thread.
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On May 12 2014 02:00 pokechampion wrote:Hi, I have some replays from a team tournament, there has been indications and discussion on whether the Protoss player used maphack. Info on the game: both games the Terran players went 1-1-1, and the Protoss player counters almost perfectly, without information. Please check the replays and give me some of your opinions. http://drop.sc/380399http://drop.sc/380398
The protoss gets very good information in both games. First of all why would a maphacker ever 13 scout in PvT considering that he does a quite early hallucination scout even after seeing the factory with tech lab with the MSC? That's 3 scouts in the first 8min. And then you come here and accuse him of hacking. How are you guys GM if you can't even extract this data from a replay? He saw everything.
Secondly the blind ebay block+no reaper+no natural up when the zealot walks over after also cleaning up the ebay are straight-up giveaways that something's up. Seriously I can't believe those 2 replays are even up for debate.
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On May 13 2014 01:30 Insomnia_a wrote:-Hacker name [vent] conspiracy -Server Europe -League Diamond -Replay: http://drop.sc/380455-Description He didnt scout me at all, he knew from the beggining where i spawned and blind counter everything i did in the game. Also he told me that i was right in private chat.
Can you provide any more substantial proof? To me it looks like this guy is just playing risky PvP, there's no evidence that he knew where you spawned. Granted it's a little suspicious that he wasn't at all aggressive with his blink stalkers but that's not proof by itself. When you're phoenixes were idling in his main outside of his vision there was no indication that he knew they were there, a hacker probably would have sniped them. Do you have screenshots of the private chat?
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Dear all players in Starcraft 2 community, I’ve been in this great community for the start of the game Starcraft 2. As a player, I am very disappointed and frustrating as the same time that map hackers are very annoying issue in the game. As a player of Starcraft 2, I and I think most of you have the desire to raise Starcraft 2 to a new level of popularity. In my case, I come from a country, which is Vietnam, has very little opportunity for players and people that have passionate about the game to help the Starcraft 2 community; therefore, with all my effort, I and my team have tried hard to hold little tournament after tournament out of our pocket. Then Map hacker appears in this small tournament, it is very frustrating to us since this is the first case ever we are dealing with such matter. With the level of player and the current knowledge about the game in the small community we can’t settle the dispute. Ultimately, I personally need all your help to point out for me if this player hacks or not. It would be a great deal to me personally and my team that each of you pay a little time to watch just of this 5 replays of this player.
Hacker name: Cheesus
Server: NA
Leauge Diamond
Replay:
http://drop.sc/380471
http://drop.sc/380472
http://drop.sc/380398
http://drop.sc/380473
http://drop.sc/380399
Decription:
This is the BO5 series between [TM]WhattheF and Cheesus TvP series.
Game 1: Overgrowth- Each player opens with a very typical TvP, the moment when WTF scouts the Stargate of protoss player. Dispite not scouting anything inside WhatTheF base, he decided immediately going for third base. We all had a doubt in our mind while we were watching this replay but I still could not come to a conclusion yet.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fNlX4TK.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1NrVbz2.png)
Game 2:
At the beginning of game two, I am very confused about the scouting of the protoss player. He scouts in a wrong direction and immediately sends the probe back to his base. For the standard timing of a reaper it should be at 3:40s so he could just send the probe to the 2nd base of terran without notice of a reaper but he chose to go back.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/f4KOnQs.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ktAzait.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nMjwzhg.png)
Protoss then has seen a marine going through 12 o’clock direction however, protoss has not yet determined whether the marine would be at the third base or in front of his base. And then this action happened. He moved his camera to a blind point of the map which he has no vision and surprisingly there is a marine right there.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pkRIeLy.png)
Game 3:
Moving to the 3rd game, there are even more suspicious actions of protoss player that really makes us wonder about there is no more coincidence. Despite the fact that protoss player had been playing very risky, greedy and very blind in the past two games of the series. WhattheF decided to go for 1-1-1 all in build and let’s see how the protoss scouts, react and counter the build.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ADGxV7a.png)
Despite the fact that protoss had scouted the terran going for 13 gas and there were the present of 3 marines, the possibility of banshee is very high.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/P0P49Qv.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BAYOyzQ.png)
I am apologising for any bias opinion of myself at this point of time however, I think it is very too obvious that he did these action. Please understand my frustrating in the words I use. He somehow get a robo to get observer it is very smart of him to do so however, within 1sec frame and the same time of the raven pop on the starport production he immediate cancel the observer then he gets his immortal.
Follow with this suspicious action and movement.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9x6wKhi.png)
At the end of the 3rd game is the series of protoss cheesus tried to mysteriously set up a flank on the terran army without knowing terran move out until the probe got killed later.
Game 4th:
Game 4 again is a game that WhatTheF decided to go 1-1-1 all in and Cheesus tried to defense without any scouting. On this particular game I just wanted to point out that Cheesus protoss had not scout anything and later when WhattheF got a banshee this time he produce an observer.
Game 5:
Cheesus opens very blindly not even a single probe scout, it could be acceptable since he could expect WhatTheF would do the same strategy but however in the final game of the series do you really want not scout.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jr5T4xl.png)
The game keeps on as Cheesus protoss player kept making immortal up to 4 immortal. He is at 3 immortal and 4th immortal coming out soon with 4 sentries at 8:45mins mark without any scouting of terran base and he just realize that Terran moved out and NO MOTHERSHIP CORE and OBSERVER.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/u51ESMw.png)
The game ultimately ends with a shear forces of protoss crushing the terran army.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Q2Z0Np9.png)
Thank you every one for reading this long post. To moderator of the forum, I am very very sorry if I post a long post like this on the forum. I and my team very appreciate if you all can pay a little time (or in fact a lots of time on this post) to read this and give us an answer if our judgement about the protoss player hacker is a correct judgement. We are just very frustrating that this happens. We need all your help. Again, thank you very very much on this guys
Poll: Is the protoss hacking or not?No, He is not. (52) 68% Yes, He is. (25) 32% 77 total votes Your vote: Is the protoss hacking or not? (Vote): Yes, He is.
(Vote): No, He is not.
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Since I responded earlier to the same claim of Cheesus hacking I feel compelled to respond again. Also I like the pictures instead of just timestamps. I'm not Cheesus nor do I know him. So with that out of the way I'll get started.
Decription: This is the BO5 series between [TM]WhattheF and Cheesus TvP series. Game 1: Overgrowth- Each player opens with a very typical TvP, the moment when WTF scouts the Stargate of protoss player. Dispite not scouting anything inside WhatTheF base, he decided immediately going for third base. We all had a doubt in our mind while we were watching this replay but I still could not come to a conclusion yet. + Show Spoiler [your pictures] +
It's the first game of a bo5. Proxy oracle into 3 quick bases is not unheard of and a solid choice for game1. I think this was his plan from the start because he set a camera location earlier.
+ Show Spoiler [set cam location] +
Note: It's his first person view. He does this in 1 other game of this series: Habitation Station (0:22). Though he doesn't get to take a 3rd there. Pay attention to the beginning of Cheesus games. He cycles once or twice through all his camera location. Maybe WTF scouting the stargate early triggered him to take quick 3rd as a backup plan maybe it's just his build choice. Another note: He even starts the 3rd before building the oracle expecting that a turret would be ready in time to deflect it so he uses it to buy time.
Granted, ideally he should've poked before taking his 3rd but it's not at like you stated.
+ Show Spoiler [zeal stalker poke] +
He did poke just a bit too late. It's bad execution. The series is full of it. WTFs oracle defense is horrible and his turret in the main misplaced. Later Cheesus decides to sacrifice his 3rd even though he could've defended it.
Nothing suspicious here.
Game 2: At the beginning of game two, I am very confused about the scouting of the protoss player. He scouts in a wrong direction and immediately sends the probe back to his base. For the standard timing of a reaper it should be at 3:40s so he could just send the probe to the 2nd base of terran without notice of a reaper but he chose to go back. + Show Spoiler [your pictures] +Protoss then has seen a marine going through 12 o’clock direction however, protoss has not yet determined whether the marine would be at the third base or in front of his base. And then this action happened. He moved his camera to a blind point of the map which he has no vision and surprisingly there is a marine right there.
Here you are imagining things. Protoss' don't always start the zealot. They should, but they I don't. It's about as unusual as WTF not building a single reaper in 5 games. He did start the zealot once he saw the SCV and canceled it when his scouting probe came back to the natural and didn't find an ebay.
+ Show Spoiler [starting zealot] + He also immediately builds an obs and sends it over to scout. + Show Spoiler [obs looking for natural command center] +
Checking your 3rd base locations for marines is also not a crime. It's what you do if Terran doesn't walk out on the map. There is nothing else to do. It's also reasonable to assume there is a marine because why wouldn't Terran keep track of both 3rd base locations? In this game he scouts way too much with obs and hallucinations for me to think he maphacks.
The only thing I found weird was this. + Show Spoiler [random FoW peak] + If he could see through the FoW he would've seen additional barracks finishing up but why would he do that when he also has the production tab hack you accuse him of having in the next game? Anyway I have no idea what this peak is about.
Game 3: Moving to the 3rd game, there are even more suspicious actions of protoss player that really makes us wonder about there is no more coincidence. Despite the fact that protoss player had been playing very risky, greedy and very blind in the past two games of the series. WhattheF decided to go for 1-1-1 all in build and let’s see how the protoss scouts, react and counter the build. + Show Spoiler [your pictures] +Despite the fact that protoss had scouted the terran going for 13 gas and there were the present of 3 marines, the possibility of banshee is very high. + Show Spoiler [your pictures] +I am apologising for any bias opinion of myself at this point of time however, I think it is very too obvious that he did these action. Please understand my frustrating in the words I use. He somehow get a robo to get observer it is very smart of him to do so however, within 1sec frame and the same time of the raven pop on the starport production he immediate cancel the observer then he gets his immortal. Follow with this suspicious action and movement. At the end of the 3rd game is the series of protoss cheesus tried to mysteriously set up a flank on the terran army without knowing terran move out until the probe got killed later. + Show Spoiler [your pictures] +
You have no idea how Protoss correctly respond to a factory with tech lab. You build an immortal zealot sentry army until Terran shows banshees, then you get some stalkers and obs. You don't need to see the starport. The reason you build immortals first is a very quick marine tank push that hits around the 8min mark iirc. If it doesn't come then you get an obs. Not seeing the starport changes absolutely nothing. You also get obs if your hallucination scouts a command center which it didn't. That means you can afford to lose a few probes to banshees and be fine. The fact that he cancels the obs at the same time the raven starts could be coincidence or simply a misclick. I explained robo usage earlier.
I also disagree with Cheesus playing blindly in both games, but what I noticed he used the select all army command right when the raven came out of the starport, not when WTF started moving out. And that "mysterious" flank is a common tactic against tank based 1 base pushes.
No conclusive evidence here.
Game 4th:
Game 4 again is a game that WhatTheF decided to go 1-1-1 all in and Cheesus tried to defense without any scouting. On this particular game I just wanted to point out that Cheesus protoss had not scout anything and later when WhattheF got a banshee this time he produce an observer.
Do you realize that not seeing certain things is also scouting? No expo at 7:10, lots of marines and even the reactor on the first rax. At this point it's quite safe to assume Terran does the same build again since they both suck. He also build the obs way before the banshee was even started. Do you even pay attention?
Game 5: Cheesus opens very blindly not even a single probe scout, it could be acceptable since he could expect WhatTheF would do the same strategy but however in the final game of the series do you really want not scout. + Show Spoiler + The game keeps on as Cheesus protoss player kept making immortal up to 4 immortal. He is at 3 immortal and 4th immortal coming out soon with 4 sentries at 8:45mins mark without any scouting of terran base and he just realize that Terran moved out and NO MOTHERSHIP CORE and OBSERVER. + Show Spoiler +The game ultimately ends with a shear forces of protoss crushing the terran army. + Show Spoiler +
Now you are just wrong. The picture where you wrote no vision on...He has vision. Vision of the natural. Do you know what he sees? A lack of an expo. After winning 2 games and then losing 2 games to the same all-in Cheesus decides he isn't having any more of it. These aren't 5 random ladder games. You are a witness to someone figuring out a build midseries. He doesn't need the MSC (Protoss had to defend this stuff without MSC in WoL and it was possible). Instead he decides he wants more immortals to deal with it. He also figured out that he'd better spend his money on units instead of gases at the natural. If you really watched the other games you should have noticed that on HabSta he invested in early 3rd+4th geysers to get gas he couldn't spent, on Frost he invested in obs+twilight+extra geyser which he never used and in both games his warpgates were mostly idle which explains his lack of units in both games. Now on Waystation he just builds a few immortals, a bunch of gates, cuts probes and churns out units. He should've done so in game3 but he didn't. You were lucky to even get to game5. Cheesus had the right tools all along he just needed 2 games to figure out how to use them.
So no, these games are not proof that Cheesus cheats. Not even by a long shot. I rather think you are sore losers.
edit: added screenshot for game2+some clarification
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Ravomat! May I ask you what is your league in SC2 right now, please?
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