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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 07 2013 23:37 GMT
#4361
On January 08 2013 08:24 CRDJGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 08:13 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:52 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:16 Butterednuts wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:07 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:33 cvgHuShang wrote:
Hacker name: pipigrande
Server: na
League: masters
Description: Scouts standard 1 gas fast expand with scv. I go 1 robo 4 gate all in. Doesnt scout again, just builds 5 bunkers and doesnt get his starport.

http://drop.sc/291907

Maphacking is getting so out of hand...


Just cus i build bunkers blindly it doesn't mean i mh or anyone else does. I have played you two times in the past and still vividly remember your name (previous season)and both times i have lost to you with that all in you do. I just assumed you are still doing that all in. Smart? Probably not. I'm confident about my macro enough that i can macro out of my 5 bunkers in case you didn't all in.

We played another game right after this one, and as you can probably testify i played a macro game vs you, and i'm sure there was nothing suspicious in that game. I lost, but that's besides the point. Why don't you post the replay as well?

Btw in both games if you watch replay, i'm sure you won't see anything suspicious in-game. Ie. no looking at fog or clicking at your units, among other things that a mher would do.



I watched the replay and even without the bunker play he has not demonstrated any kind of map hacking. I would be a little more careful than to call someone out as a maphacker without thoroughly investigating it yourself. Just because someone blind counters you does not mean that they are hacking, it just means you got unlucky.

Did you even watch the start of the game? He sends 2 scvs to ward off a probe and scout without even seeing a probe, at the exact time the probe was coming near the CC. He also doesn't scout with his scv at all or even try to confirm what his opponent is doing, just going in and leaving immediately at the start. Then he builds 5 bunkers and a depot wall. Also the warp prism loading into the main was looked at in fog of war and then reacted to with the entire army.


I'm guessing you are probably below diamond level as you don't see much pass what's 'obvious'. No offence but there is more to it than just what you see with your understanding of the game.

1) i cc first. When do i send my two scvs out? One is for my timing to build my rack and the other one is for scout (in case probe is incoming this scv will defend the other 2 scvs building cc and rax)

2) his timing is WAY delayed for a 4 gate. To any player higher than a low level would know either something is up (when 4 was assumed) or the p just expanded. Naturally, wouldn't it be a smart idea to build a supply at that place for more vision? Which in fact you can see me do but scv got killed (in replay you can see me selecting scv to build depot)

3) i blindly built bunkers i assumed he was going to all-in. When you lose two times in two different occasions to the same guy with a unique ID, you would easily remember the name.
Most people under high masters only have 1 build each mu. I'm confident enough that if i survive any early cheese i can get out of5 rax situation and macro up. (Notice i'm confident about my macro but doesn't mean i will win for sure)

4) i highly encourage you to post the replay of my weird play.

5) anything else you wanna say?

Would you happen to have the replays of those previous games you are talking about? Would help settle this discussion.

What is there to settle? Is there conclussive proof that he hacks? Yes or no.

If Hushang doesn't play like this every other time against him, then his story becomes completely unbelievable. There is no way he is macroing out of 5 bunkers unless his opponent is way worse than him, which on ladder is not reliable...
CRDJGE
Profile Joined January 2013
17 Posts
January 08 2013 00:03 GMT
#4362
On January 08 2013 08:37 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 08:24 CRDJGE wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:13 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:52 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:16 Butterednuts wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:07 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:33 cvgHuShang wrote:
Hacker name: pipigrande
Server: na
League: masters
Description: Scouts standard 1 gas fast expand with scv. I go 1 robo 4 gate all in. Doesnt scout again, just builds 5 bunkers and doesnt get his starport.

http://drop.sc/291907

Maphacking is getting so out of hand...


Just cus i build bunkers blindly it doesn't mean i mh or anyone else does. I have played you two times in the past and still vividly remember your name (previous season)and both times i have lost to you with that all in you do. I just assumed you are still doing that all in. Smart? Probably not. I'm confident about my macro enough that i can macro out of my 5 bunkers in case you didn't all in.

We played another game right after this one, and as you can probably testify i played a macro game vs you, and i'm sure there was nothing suspicious in that game. I lost, but that's besides the point. Why don't you post the replay as well?

Btw in both games if you watch replay, i'm sure you won't see anything suspicious in-game. Ie. no looking at fog or clicking at your units, among other things that a mher would do.



I watched the replay and even without the bunker play he has not demonstrated any kind of map hacking. I would be a little more careful than to call someone out as a maphacker without thoroughly investigating it yourself. Just because someone blind counters you does not mean that they are hacking, it just means you got unlucky.

Did you even watch the start of the game? He sends 2 scvs to ward off a probe and scout without even seeing a probe, at the exact time the probe was coming near the CC. He also doesn't scout with his scv at all or even try to confirm what his opponent is doing, just going in and leaving immediately at the start. Then he builds 5 bunkers and a depot wall. Also the warp prism loading into the main was looked at in fog of war and then reacted to with the entire army.


I'm guessing you are probably below diamond level as you don't see much pass what's 'obvious'. No offence but there is more to it than just what you see with your understanding of the game.

1) i cc first. When do i send my two scvs out? One is for my timing to build my rack and the other one is for scout (in case probe is incoming this scv will defend the other 2 scvs building cc and rax)

2) his timing is WAY delayed for a 4 gate. To any player higher than a low level would know either something is up (when 4 was assumed) or the p just expanded. Naturally, wouldn't it be a smart idea to build a supply at that place for more vision? Which in fact you can see me do but scv got killed (in replay you can see me selecting scv to build depot)

3) i blindly built bunkers i assumed he was going to all-in. When you lose two times in two different occasions to the same guy with a unique ID, you would easily remember the name.
Most people under high masters only have 1 build each mu. I'm confident enough that if i survive any early cheese i can get out of5 rax situation and macro up. (Notice i'm confident about my macro but doesn't mean i will win for sure)

4) i highly encourage you to post the replay of my weird play.

5) anything else you wanna say?

Would you happen to have the replays of those previous games you are talking about? Would help settle this discussion.

What is there to settle? Is there conclussive proof that he hacks? Yes or no.

If Hushang doesn't play like this every other time against him, then his story becomes completely unbelievable. There is no way he is macroing out of 5 bunkers unless his opponent is way worse than him, which on ladder is not reliable...

Whether you deem him believable or not is of no importance. Either there is conclusive evidence that he hacks or there isnt.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 00:15:37
January 08 2013 00:14 GMT
#4363
On January 08 2013 09:03 CRDJGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 08:37 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:24 CRDJGE wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:13 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:52 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:16 Butterednuts wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:07 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:33 cvgHuShang wrote:
Hacker name: pipigrande
Server: na
League: masters
Description: Scouts standard 1 gas fast expand with scv. I go 1 robo 4 gate all in. Doesnt scout again, just builds 5 bunkers and doesnt get his starport.

http://drop.sc/291907

Maphacking is getting so out of hand...


Just cus i build bunkers blindly it doesn't mean i mh or anyone else does. I have played you two times in the past and still vividly remember your name (previous season)and both times i have lost to you with that all in you do. I just assumed you are still doing that all in. Smart? Probably not. I'm confident about my macro enough that i can macro out of my 5 bunkers in case you didn't all in.

We played another game right after this one, and as you can probably testify i played a macro game vs you, and i'm sure there was nothing suspicious in that game. I lost, but that's besides the point. Why don't you post the replay as well?

Btw in both games if you watch replay, i'm sure you won't see anything suspicious in-game. Ie. no looking at fog or clicking at your units, among other things that a mher would do.



I watched the replay and even without the bunker play he has not demonstrated any kind of map hacking. I would be a little more careful than to call someone out as a maphacker without thoroughly investigating it yourself. Just because someone blind counters you does not mean that they are hacking, it just means you got unlucky.

Did you even watch the start of the game? He sends 2 scvs to ward off a probe and scout without even seeing a probe, at the exact time the probe was coming near the CC. He also doesn't scout with his scv at all or even try to confirm what his opponent is doing, just going in and leaving immediately at the start. Then he builds 5 bunkers and a depot wall. Also the warp prism loading into the main was looked at in fog of war and then reacted to with the entire army.


I'm guessing you are probably below diamond level as you don't see much pass what's 'obvious'. No offence but there is more to it than just what you see with your understanding of the game.

1) i cc first. When do i send my two scvs out? One is for my timing to build my rack and the other one is for scout (in case probe is incoming this scv will defend the other 2 scvs building cc and rax)

2) his timing is WAY delayed for a 4 gate. To any player higher than a low level would know either something is up (when 4 was assumed) or the p just expanded. Naturally, wouldn't it be a smart idea to build a supply at that place for more vision? Which in fact you can see me do but scv got killed (in replay you can see me selecting scv to build depot)

3) i blindly built bunkers i assumed he was going to all-in. When you lose two times in two different occasions to the same guy with a unique ID, you would easily remember the name.
Most people under high masters only have 1 build each mu. I'm confident enough that if i survive any early cheese i can get out of5 rax situation and macro up. (Notice i'm confident about my macro but doesn't mean i will win for sure)

4) i highly encourage you to post the replay of my weird play.

5) anything else you wanna say?

Would you happen to have the replays of those previous games you are talking about? Would help settle this discussion.

What is there to settle? Is there conclussive proof that he hacks? Yes or no.

If Hushang doesn't play like this every other time against him, then his story becomes completely unbelievable. There is no way he is macroing out of 5 bunkers unless his opponent is way worse than him, which on ladder is not reliable...

Whether you deem him believable or not is of no importance. Either there is conclusive evidence that he hacks or there isnt.

...you bring nothing to this thread. And from your posting history, to any thread. You are a troll.

He made the statement they've played many times before. He remembers the name. He remembers the strat. Post the other replays to prove that's what he did. Otherwise, blind 5 bunkers is auto loss on ladder if they don't bulldog bust.

Combine that hole in his statement, with the depot RIGHT at the elevator he never saw, except through fog, and you got some conclusive proof.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 00:17:45
January 08 2013 00:16 GMT
#4364
CRDJGE please see my post, and my analysis of the replay in question. Going back and forth with EtherealDeath is just a pissing match, but only to see who has more urine.

My result is not conclusive that he is hacking, but the replay is very suspicious. I would need more replays from a third party to this replay to come to a different conclusion.

And to Clarify - it was NOT 5 Bunkers - it was 3, with 5 Depot's in front of that.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
CRDJGE
Profile Joined January 2013
17 Posts
January 08 2013 00:21 GMT
#4365
On January 08 2013 09:16 Grimmyman123 wrote:
CRDJGE please see my post, and my analysis of the replay in question. Going back and forth with EtherealDeath is just a pissing match, but only to see who has more urine.

My result is not conclusive that he is hacking, but the replay is very suspicious. I would need more replays from a third party to this replay to come to a different conclusion.

And to Clarify - it was NOT 5 Bunkers - it was 3, with 5 Depot's in front of that.

I read your post when you wrote it and its all reasonable.
What I am ranting about are the shit-for-brains who jump to conclusions.
CRDJGE
Profile Joined January 2013
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 00:23:20
January 08 2013 00:22 GMT
#4366
On January 08 2013 09:14 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 09:03 CRDJGE wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:37 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:24 CRDJGE wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:13 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:52 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:16 Butterednuts wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:07 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:33 cvgHuShang wrote:
Hacker name: pipigrande
Server: na
League: masters
Description: Scouts standard 1 gas fast expand with scv. I go 1 robo 4 gate all in. Doesnt scout again, just builds 5 bunkers and doesnt get his starport.

http://drop.sc/291907

Maphacking is getting so out of hand...


Just cus i build bunkers blindly it doesn't mean i mh or anyone else does. I have played you two times in the past and still vividly remember your name (previous season)and both times i have lost to you with that all in you do. I just assumed you are still doing that all in. Smart? Probably not. I'm confident about my macro enough that i can macro out of my 5 bunkers in case you didn't all in.

We played another game right after this one, and as you can probably testify i played a macro game vs you, and i'm sure there was nothing suspicious in that game. I lost, but that's besides the point. Why don't you post the replay as well?

Btw in both games if you watch replay, i'm sure you won't see anything suspicious in-game. Ie. no looking at fog or clicking at your units, among other things that a mher would do.



I watched the replay and even without the bunker play he has not demonstrated any kind of map hacking. I would be a little more careful than to call someone out as a maphacker without thoroughly investigating it yourself. Just because someone blind counters you does not mean that they are hacking, it just means you got unlucky.

Did you even watch the start of the game? He sends 2 scvs to ward off a probe and scout without even seeing a probe, at the exact time the probe was coming near the CC. He also doesn't scout with his scv at all or even try to confirm what his opponent is doing, just going in and leaving immediately at the start. Then he builds 5 bunkers and a depot wall. Also the warp prism loading into the main was looked at in fog of war and then reacted to with the entire army.


I'm guessing you are probably below diamond level as you don't see much pass what's 'obvious'. No offence but there is more to it than just what you see with your understanding of the game.

1) i cc first. When do i send my two scvs out? One is for my timing to build my rack and the other one is for scout (in case probe is incoming this scv will defend the other 2 scvs building cc and rax)

2) his timing is WAY delayed for a 4 gate. To any player higher than a low level would know either something is up (when 4 was assumed) or the p just expanded. Naturally, wouldn't it be a smart idea to build a supply at that place for more vision? Which in fact you can see me do but scv got killed (in replay you can see me selecting scv to build depot)

3) i blindly built bunkers i assumed he was going to all-in. When you lose two times in two different occasions to the same guy with a unique ID, you would easily remember the name.
Most people under high masters only have 1 build each mu. I'm confident enough that if i survive any early cheese i can get out of5 rax situation and macro up. (Notice i'm confident about my macro but doesn't mean i will win for sure)

4) i highly encourage you to post the replay of my weird play.

5) anything else you wanna say?

Would you happen to have the replays of those previous games you are talking about? Would help settle this discussion.

What is there to settle? Is there conclussive proof that he hacks? Yes or no.

If Hushang doesn't play like this every other time against him, then his story becomes completely unbelievable. There is no way he is macroing out of 5 bunkers unless his opponent is way worse than him, which on ladder is not reliable...

Whether you deem him believable or not is of no importance. Either there is conclusive evidence that he hacks or there isnt.

...you bring nothing to this thread. And from your posting history, to any thread. You are a troll.

He made the statement they've played many times before. He remembers the name. He remembers the strat. Post the other replays to prove that's what he did. Otherwise, blind 5 bunkers is auto loss on ladder if they don't bulldog bust.

Combine that hole in his statement, with the depot RIGHT at the elevator he never saw, except through fog, and you got some conclusive proof.

Your idea of what constitues conclusive proof scares me. I am glad you are not a judge in my country. (Edit: or anywhere, hopefully).
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 08 2013 01:41 GMT
#4367
On January 08 2013 09:22 CRDJGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 09:14 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On January 08 2013 09:03 CRDJGE wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:37 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:24 CRDJGE wrote:
On January 08 2013 08:13 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:52 PiPiGranDe wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:16 Butterednuts wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:07 PiPiGranDe wrote:
[quote]

Just cus i build bunkers blindly it doesn't mean i mh or anyone else does. I have played you two times in the past and still vividly remember your name (previous season)and both times i have lost to you with that all in you do. I just assumed you are still doing that all in. Smart? Probably not. I'm confident about my macro enough that i can macro out of my 5 bunkers in case you didn't all in.

We played another game right after this one, and as you can probably testify i played a macro game vs you, and i'm sure there was nothing suspicious in that game. I lost, but that's besides the point. Why don't you post the replay as well?

Btw in both games if you watch replay, i'm sure you won't see anything suspicious in-game. Ie. no looking at fog or clicking at your units, among other things that a mher would do.



I watched the replay and even without the bunker play he has not demonstrated any kind of map hacking. I would be a little more careful than to call someone out as a maphacker without thoroughly investigating it yourself. Just because someone blind counters you does not mean that they are hacking, it just means you got unlucky.

Did you even watch the start of the game? He sends 2 scvs to ward off a probe and scout without even seeing a probe, at the exact time the probe was coming near the CC. He also doesn't scout with his scv at all or even try to confirm what his opponent is doing, just going in and leaving immediately at the start. Then he builds 5 bunkers and a depot wall. Also the warp prism loading into the main was looked at in fog of war and then reacted to with the entire army.


I'm guessing you are probably below diamond level as you don't see much pass what's 'obvious'. No offence but there is more to it than just what you see with your understanding of the game.

1) i cc first. When do i send my two scvs out? One is for my timing to build my rack and the other one is for scout (in case probe is incoming this scv will defend the other 2 scvs building cc and rax)

2) his timing is WAY delayed for a 4 gate. To any player higher than a low level would know either something is up (when 4 was assumed) or the p just expanded. Naturally, wouldn't it be a smart idea to build a supply at that place for more vision? Which in fact you can see me do but scv got killed (in replay you can see me selecting scv to build depot)

3) i blindly built bunkers i assumed he was going to all-in. When you lose two times in two different occasions to the same guy with a unique ID, you would easily remember the name.
Most people under high masters only have 1 build each mu. I'm confident enough that if i survive any early cheese i can get out of5 rax situation and macro up. (Notice i'm confident about my macro but doesn't mean i will win for sure)

4) i highly encourage you to post the replay of my weird play.

5) anything else you wanna say?

Would you happen to have the replays of those previous games you are talking about? Would help settle this discussion.

What is there to settle? Is there conclussive proof that he hacks? Yes or no.

If Hushang doesn't play like this every other time against him, then his story becomes completely unbelievable. There is no way he is macroing out of 5 bunkers unless his opponent is way worse than him, which on ladder is not reliable...

Whether you deem him believable or not is of no importance. Either there is conclusive evidence that he hacks or there isnt.

...you bring nothing to this thread. And from your posting history, to any thread. You are a troll.

He made the statement they've played many times before. He remembers the name. He remembers the strat. Post the other replays to prove that's what he did. Otherwise, blind 5 bunkers is auto loss on ladder if they don't bulldog bust.

Combine that hole in his statement, with the depot RIGHT at the elevator he never saw, except through fog, and you got some conclusive proof.

Your idea of what constitues conclusive proof scares me. I am glad you are not a judge in my country. (Edit: or anywhere, hopefully).

No one said it is conclusive. It's just really highly suspicious and warrants closer attention to him, if they do not in fact have such a history.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 08 2013 02:09 GMT
#4368
I'd rather not even take into account any "history" or previous games, play styles etc. From either player, it is just conjecture.

I'd like more replays, and until then, his play is suspicious and worth attention.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
January 08 2013 08:53 GMT
#4369
Hacker name: Escobar
Server: NA
League: 1100 point master
Description: 7 pool drone pulls without scouting on entombed, then halfway across the map accuses me of hacking and being listed on this thread (I get that sometimes I gateway expand PvZ). Play him again a second time, nothing too suspicious other than literally no scouting and horrible macro play. He decided to try to play macro since he was convinced I hack.

http://drop.sc/292425

I thought it was strange so I looked at his match history. He 7 pools every game vs toss, but doesn't pull drones except against me (I assume because he knew I went gateway first). 10 pool vs every terran and hatch first vs every zerg except when his opponent goes fast pool and gas funny enough.

I had some doubt but after seeing a related game on dropsc I know it to be a fact that he maphacks.

http://drop.sc/159107

Him as toss vs a zerg on entombed, pulls his first probe blindly to his opponents ramp, builds two gateways and decides to expand and not build any zealots without scouting the zergs base once. The zerg had seen that and gotten two spines. This was obvious enough so I didn't bother downloading the other two replays on dropsc.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 09:10:42
January 08 2013 09:10 GMT
#4370
Hacker name: Escobar
Server: NA
League: master, 111 points, 250 wins / 229 losses (2012 Season 5)
Description:

Escobar(p, top right) vs Method (t, top left) @ shakuras plateu

@3:45 auto probe production
@4:04 auto probe production
@5:13 auto probe production and individual selection
[image loading]

etc etc...

didn't look through the other replays yet, this one was submitted 9 months ago. it seems like he played protoss at the time.

On January 08 2013 17:53 TechNoTrance wrote:
Description: 7 pool drone pulls without scouting on entombed, then halfway across the map accuses me of hacking and being listed on this thread (I get that sometimes I gateway expand PvZ). Play him again a second time, nothing too suspicious other than literally no scouting and horrible macro play. He decided to try to play macro since he was convinced I hack.

http://drop.sc/292425

I thought it was strange so I looked at his match history. He 7 pools every game vs toss, but doesn't pull drones except against me (I assume because he knew I went gateway first). 10 pool vs every terran and hatch first vs every zerg except when his opponent goes fast pool and gas funny enough.

I had some doubt but after seeing a related game on dropsc I know it to be a fact that he maphacks.

http://drop.sc/159107

Him as toss vs a zerg on entombed, pulls his first probe blindly to his opponents ramp, builds two gateways and decides to expand and not build any zealots without scouting the zergs base once. The zerg had seen that and gotten two spines. This was obvious enough so I didn't bother downloading the other two replays on dropsc.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Finalmastery
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 19:20:56
January 08 2013 19:19 GMT
#4371
aEsMoon Diamond hacker (posted in here since there s no where else.)

really short game does zero scouting, and blindly clicks into fog of war and sends 3 workers to kill a pylon that jsut got laid down half ago.

http://drop.sc/292495

These people need to be off this game.
" The will to win is nothing without the will to prepare" - Juma Ikaanga
Uber_Nick
Profile Joined November 2010
United States23 Posts
January 08 2013 22:36 GMT
#4372
Server: NA
Your Name: TCFnick.830
Hacker Name: lul
Replay: lul maphack
Description: Camera view under fog of war at 30 seconds. Sees spawning pool soon after without scouting, comments on it and reacts to it. Another camera view under fog of war at 2:17 where units are and comments on those. Clear evidence throughout rest of replay. I also have another replay showing similar, but this is pretty clear-cut.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 08 2013 23:35 GMT
#4373
On January 08 2013 11:09 Grimmyman123 wrote:
I'd rather not even take into account any "history" or previous games, play styles etc. From either player, it is just conjecture.

I'd like more replays, and until then, his play is suspicious and worth attention.

Yea that is optimal - I just mentioned history because that is his claim for the reasoning behind his play that game.
Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
January 09 2013 18:17 GMT
#4374
On January 06 2013 01:46 nunez wrote:
started up a HOTS thread for posting HOTS (...) replays:
HOTS: TL/GM Hacker Thread

note: add tags in your reps, more info in OP.




by the way greatjob with everything that you are doing and you may want to add this quoted post ( or at least the link ) in the OP
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
January 09 2013 22:34 GMT
#4375
Hacker Name: SKILLCAPPED
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/293301

Okay, so in this game I go for a slowling baneling bust - with absolutely no scouting he initially makes a wall to stop my first 6 zerglings, and then builds more cannons with absolutely no vision of anything at all. It's all pretty clear. Somehow the bust still works because artosis pylons affect everyone, even hackers.

Beyond that, he then spent about 7 minutes hiding a nexus and pretending that he left the game. He's incredibly pathetic, and a blatantly clear hacker.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
January 09 2013 22:40 GMT
#4376
On January 10 2013 07:34 Zennith wrote:
Hacker Name: SKILLCAPPED
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/293301

Okay, so in this game I go for a slowling baneling bust - with absolutely no scouting he initially makes a wall to stop my first 6 zerglings, and then builds more cannons with absolutely no vision of anything at all. It's all pretty clear. Somehow the bust still works because artosis pylons affect everyone, even hackers.

Beyond that, he then spent about 7 minutes hiding a nexus and pretending that he left the game. He's incredibly pathetic, and a blatantly clear hacker.

Man I would've died if he left after you said "has left the game!" at the end...like he did, but I imagine that's because you found the nexus.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
eRRe
Profile Joined June 2012
Brazil5 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 23:47:20
January 09 2013 23:04 GMT
#4377
Hacker name: LaurenElise
Server: NA
League: Master
Description:
Without vision, do not recognize, observed my base and my main pillar forward with the stargate. Perfectly positioned his troops to kill my void ray and break the pillar. Made a bunker in natural and abandoned because, without having any vision, he knew what I was doing.

Replay:

http://drop.sc/293350

http://www.mediafire.com/file/477wh3n7o2llfre/LaurenElise_MH.SC2Replay
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
January 09 2013 23:07 GMT
#4378
On January 10 2013 08:04 eRRe wrote:
Hacker name: LaurenElise
Server: NA
League: Master
Description:
Without vision, do not recognize, observed my base and my main pillar forward with the stargate. Perfectly positioned his troops to kill my void ray and break the pillar. Made a bunker in natural and abandoned because, without having any vision, he knew what I was doing.

Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/file/477wh3n7o2llfre/LaurenElise_MH.SC2Replay



Upload on dropsc. I'm pretty sure this account hacks as well, I ran against him in a tournament and it was just absurdly suspicious play. I'll see if I still have the replay
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 23:42:16
January 09 2013 23:37 GMT
#4379
On January 10 2013 08:04 eRRe wrote:
Hacker name: LaurenElise
Server: NA
League: Master
Description:
Without vision, do not recognize, observed my base and my main pillar forward with the stargate. Perfectly positioned his troops to kill my void ray and break the pillar. Made a bunker in natural and abandoned because, without having any vision, he knew what I was doing.

Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/file/477wh3n7o2llfre/LaurenElise_MH.SC2Replay


Here is another replay against LaurenElise

http://drop.sc/293346

Fishy stuff:

7:20 moves up to the ramp to kill my scouting probe as soon as it leaves my base, without vision

8:10 same thing, but now he starts to blindly chase it around the other side, again withouth vision. In both cases, he could be taking the watchtower or at least positioning right outside my ramp if he really wanted to deny my scouting, but he stays in a weird spot and starts chasing the probe at exactly the perfect time twice. This way, he was making it harder for me to see exactly how many units he had.

10:50 Warps in two stalkers exactly when and where my prism stopped in his base, in a corner where he didn`t have vision.

None of those are conclusive, but I guess it adds up to other evidence. The replay against eRRe is pretty blatant.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
unrev
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada46 Posts
January 10 2013 00:18 GMT
#4380
On January 10 2013 07:34 Zennith wrote:
Hacker Name: SKILLCAPPED
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/293301

Okay, so in this game I go for a slowling baneling bust - with absolutely no scouting he initially makes a wall to stop my first 6 zerglings, and then builds more cannons with absolutely no vision of anything at all. It's all pretty clear. Somehow the bust still works because artosis pylons affect everyone, even hackers.

Beyond that, he then spent about 7 minutes hiding a nexus and pretending that he left the game. He's incredibly pathetic, and a blatantly clear hacker.




I don't know if it's the same SKILLCAPPED but I played this guy a while ago in a 2v2
and I kept the replay cause it was suspicious.


1:04 looks in FOW eventhough there's not much to see
1:29 till 2:00 a few looks in the FOW while building the pylon
2:27 looks in FOW
5:37 looks in FOW
9:02 looks in FOW
10:43 takes time to send dt's to an unscouted expension

etc. with a few more looks in the FOW


http://drop.sc/293356
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