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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 06:49:25
January 12 2013 06:49 GMT
#4401
Suspect name: IlIlIlIlllll
Server: AM
League: Masters
Description: http://drop.sc/294125

I'm not sure if he was maphacking or not, but it's fairly suspect. I'm 99% sure he used autoprobe (he NEVER looked at his nexuses or anything, rarely selected them, but always started a probe IMMEDIATELY after the last one finished.

Only 50 APM, and he opens with 3 pylon wall. I learn the hard way that drone drilling doesn't work anymore, but see his intent to expand so I drone up and take a hidden base.

I'm a little suspect that he scouted the hidden base, but whatever.

I'd like it if someone could analyze the replay more closely, like with sc2gears. I don't really know what to look for, and may have missed something. I don't THINK I saw any obvious fog peeks, but there could be a camera lock or something.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 07:20:27
January 12 2013 07:01 GMT
#4402
Hacker name: IlIlIlIlllll
Server: NA
League: master, 790 points, 123 wins / 104 losses
Description:

IlIlIlIlllll(p, bot left) vs uwuMavvie(z, top right) @ cloud kingdom

@7:55 autoprobe production
     30416  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
@8:05 autoprobe production
     31052  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
lots of autoprobe production.

ps, here's a small guide on how to detect automation:
detection automation hacks
as korona said earlier, you can copy paste actions directly form sc2gears if you don't feel like screenshotting.


Note:
previously OnTheThrone.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
IMBACoaching
Profile Joined October 2010
United States86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 07:14:44
January 12 2013 07:14 GMT
#4403
On January 12 2013 16:01 nunez wrote:
Hacker name: IlIlIlIlllll
Server: NA
League: master, 790 points, 123 wins / 104 losses
Description:

IlIlIlIlllll(p, bot left) vs uwuMavvie(z, top right) @ cloud kingdom

@7:55 autoprobe production
     30416  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
@8:05 autoprobe production
     31052  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
lots of autoprobe production.

ps, here's a small guide on how to detect automation:
detection automation hacks
as korona said earlier, you can copy paste actions directly form sc2gears if you don't feel like screenshotting.


This barcode is "OnTheThrown". Can't believe he isn't banned yet. Made a video of him here:

+ Show Spoiler +
Savior of eSports
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 12 2013 07:17 GMT
#4404
On January 12 2013 16:14 1MBACoaching wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 16:01 nunez wrote:
Hacker name: IlIlIlIlllll
Server: NA
League: master, 790 points, 123 wins / 104 losses
Description:

IlIlIlIlllll(p, bot left) vs uwuMavvie(z, top right) @ cloud kingdom

@7:55 autoprobe production
     30416  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
@8:05 autoprobe production
     31052  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
lots of autoprobe production.

ps, here's a small guide on how to detect automation:
detection automation hacks
as korona said earlier, you can copy paste actions directly form sc2gears if you don't feel like screenshotting.


This barcode is "OnTheThrown". Can't believe he isn't banned yet. Made a video of him here:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjbYGL27KU


this checks out. the youtube vid is still in the op.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 08:04:39
January 12 2013 07:59 GMT
#4405
updated op with new confirms all on NA. put us at someplace between 80 and 90 confirmed hackers that has not been banned yet as far as i know.

    NA: Pegasus, LGkouhai, ThenMeIsNoob, Tool, IlIlIlIlllll, Escobar, SKILLCAPPED, LaurenElise, Pxeba


upvote reddit thread for visibility.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
AstroPegnuin
Profile Joined November 2012
293 Posts
January 12 2013 08:21 GMT
#4406
So sad to see how much map hackers there are, you've got to think if people are actually smart about map hacking and don't make it completely obvious how much of them are out there going completely undetected for the most part?
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 12 2013 08:24 GMT
#4407
On January 12 2013 17:21 AstroPegnuin wrote:
So sad to see how much map hackers there are, you've got to think if people are actually smart about map hacking and don't make it completely obvious how much of them are out there going completely undetected for the most part?


especially when we don't have effective means of flagging a replay as suspicious without damaging reputations and starting flamewars.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
iCoNz.BoSS
Profile Joined June 2012
United States17 Posts
January 12 2013 09:35 GMT
#4408
astropenguin can you make a penguin plug so we can at least know when we are playing hackers?
live life as humble as a peasant, but show pride like youre a king
xpLolindarf
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1 Post
January 12 2013 11:50 GMT
#4409
Hacker name: Buckfast
Server: EU
League: Master
Description: http://drop.sc/294168 The obvious part at around 7:35
I went for early massling, and 2 seconds before my lings was on his ramp, in his vision, he threw down a pylon to block the entrence. On the replay you can see that he got no vision of my lings or any knowledge at all that I am going for that attack, and the timing when he puts down the pylon just makes it completely obvious I think.

(And dont ask me how I lost, I just made a fool out of myself throwing it away like the noon I am;)
SpiritSTR
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Brazil41 Posts
January 12 2013 15:11 GMT
#4410
One friend my send me this replay , he was looking for some PvTs to learn and found this mh.

Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/348391/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/
Server: SEA
Race : Protoss
Description : he constant look into fog on opponents base since the beginning of the game and no scout during the entire game.

http://drop.sc/293860

Sorry my english.
Luck is the last dying wish of those who wanna believe that winning can happen by accident, sweat on the other hand is for those who know its a choice
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
January 12 2013 17:12 GMT
#4411
On January 12 2013 16:01 nunez wrote:
Hacker name: IlIlIlIlllll
Server: NA
League: master, 790 points, 123 wins / 104 losses
Description:

IlIlIlIlllll(p, bot left) vs uwuMavvie(z, top right) @ cloud kingdom

@7:55 autoprobe production
     30416  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
@8:05 autoprobe production
     31052  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
lots of autoprobe production.

ps, here's a small guide on how to detect automation:
detection automation hacks
as korona said earlier, you can copy paste actions directly form sc2gears if you don't feel like screenshotting.


Note:
previously OnTheThrone.

Thanks for the quick response. If he was doing full maphacking, how did he lose? I played SO greedy to catch back up lol, and he didn't moveout until I had infestors, an upgrade, and was nearly maxed with roach/ling...

Maybe he's just REALLY bad? He was favoured, and played random. And didn't use his first chronoboosts etc...

Perhaps I fooled him with the spire->cancel into infestors? I mean he was fully favoured, so he's pretty high masters. I guess I'll just assume that he's really bad and only wins at all because of his maphacking...I saw the that vod about OnTheThrone and it looks like the same player (VERY slow, no fog peeks, no scouting, playing very greedy, still losing).
Getting back into sc2 O_o
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 12 2013 17:32 GMT
#4412
i have no clue, i didn't study the replay when i saw he was using automation. waste of time.

but in general i think it's fair to state that:
if you queue up vs a guy/girl who hacks you are a much better player than him/her, since without hacks he/she would not matching up vs you.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 20:43:58
January 12 2013 20:40 GMT
#4413
hey nunez, have u found any automation in pxebas play or something that could confirm 100% hack? I am sure he is a hacker but you know, some people cant see the obvious without 100% proof.

edit nevermind, just found your post with the analysis
oo
ItzShakti
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil43 Posts
January 12 2013 21:26 GMT
#4414
Pxeba is a friend of mine, but I must say that he's really MHing.
One season he was low masters/high diamond, then in the next season he gets 650 points.
I really like apollo
ShamW0W
Profile Joined March 2010
160 Posts
January 12 2013 21:45 GMT
#4415
On January 13 2013 02:12 Mavvie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 16:01 nunez wrote:
Hacker name: IlIlIlIlllll
Server: NA
League: master, 790 points, 123 wins / 104 losses
Description:

IlIlIlIlllll(p, bot left) vs uwuMavvie(z, top right) @ cloud kingdom

@7:55 autoprobe production
     30416  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    30416 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
@8:05 autoprobe production
     31052  IlIlIlIlllll  Select Nexus (102fc), Deselect all
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Train Probe
    31052 IlIlIlIlllll Select Probe (10260), Deselect all
lots of autoprobe production.

ps, here's a small guide on how to detect automation:
detection automation hacks
as korona said earlier, you can copy paste actions directly form sc2gears if you don't feel like screenshotting.


Note:
previously OnTheThrone.

Thanks for the quick response. If he was doing full maphacking, how did he lose? I played SO greedy to catch back up lol, and he didn't moveout until I had infestors, an upgrade, and was nearly maxed with roach/ling...

Maybe he's just REALLY bad? He was favoured, and played random. And didn't use his first chronoboosts etc...

Perhaps I fooled him with the spire->cancel into infestors? I mean he was fully favoured, so he's pretty high masters. I guess I'll just assume that he's really bad and only wins at all because of his maphacking...I saw the that vod about OnTheThrone and it looks like the same player (VERY slow, no fog peeks, no scouting, playing very greedy, still losing).


Yeah, he's just really bad. I had beaten him a couple of times in the past, then was playing greedy one game, saw some fishy behavior, he says 'GTFO' as he sends his army out from his base without scouting me, and happens to catch me off guard. Sad behavior that hopefully gets him banned, he's been hacking for a LONG time. :\
Half-Man Half-Amazing
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
January 13 2013 08:34 GMT
#4416
Masters P named lllIIIIllllI
http://drop.sc/294449
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4062083/1/lllIIIIllllI/

I guess this guy was already confirmed in this thread, just thought I'd let people know he's still around...
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
January 13 2013 09:19 GMT
#4417
On January 13 2013 17:34 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Masters P named lllIIIIllllI
http://drop.sc/294449
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4062083/1/lllIIIIllllI/

I guess this guy was already confirmed in this thread, just thought I'd let people know he's still around...


Heh blink hack too. It's a wonder how these guys win any games at all lol.

"fucking lucky noob so lucky trash"

Vocabulary of a maphacker too.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 13 2013 17:35 GMT
#4418
CRDJGE was just banned by Myles.

That account was created on 2013-01-06 22:09:40 and had 17 posts.

Reason: Please keep it to one account.


anyone surprised?

i sent pipigrande a pm asking for more reps, has not answered yet.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Battle_Mage
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Kazakhstan1 Post
January 13 2013 17:38 GMT
#4419
Hacker name: Wardou
Server: EU
League: Master

5:02 - Probe is trying to hide in the fog, trying to avoid the zergling without seeing it
6:24 - Adds 5 canons to hold the baneling bust without scouting

Replay: http://drop.sc/294520
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
January 13 2013 17:51 GMT
#4420
I love when people create accounts to make it seem like other people believe they aren't hacking. It's just so cute.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
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