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detecting automation hacks

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nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 21:13:15
January 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#1
detecting automation hacks

detecing some automation hacks are pretty trivial as long as you have sc2gears available.what you will be looking for is impossible / improbable and unusual sequences of input. each action in a replay has a timestamp, the timestamp can be showed in seconds and in frames. to detect automation we usually need to view frames. to show frames instead of seconds uncheck the "In Seconds" radiobox.

impossible actions
doing several distinct actions within one frame is close to impossible. note that there is a possibility of lag messing with the replay file, and show actions that were done seperatly in one frame, but if you see it several times in a replay on f.ex prodcution on workers, or injects it is safe to assume that it is automation. an autoproduction of scv or probe usually follows the pattern selection of base, production of worker, relesection by boxing whatever was selected before the base was selected.

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three minimap chronoboosts followed by a manual box selection in one frame

impossible selections
and impossible selection is boxing units or structures that you do not have vision of. this can happen both when using automation and zoom-out hacks. look for selection actions after what looks like automation in sc2gears and look through the replay from the suspects camera, and see if he makes any selections that are not visible in his view. you can press esc to clear any selection you as observer have made to make his selections visible. note that camera might change with aspect ratio, and the 'camera' box in sc2gears mapview does not take different heights on map into account.
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when the manual box selection is made the lings are halfway across the map, but AnnaProssers view is still in the main as denoted by the cyan rectangle on the sc2gears print.
      

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conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 04 2013 20:54 GMT
#2
I'm confused, what does this show exactly and how are these impossible?
User was warned for too many mimes.
Elvex
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
January 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#3
How many fps does the game engine run at?
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 21:05:41
January 04 2013 21:04 GMT
#4
On January 05 2013 05:54 docvoc wrote:
I'm confused, what does this show exactly and how are these impossible?


doing f.ex three seperate minimap clicks followed by a box selection of gateways within one frame is physically impossible.
on normal game speed 1 frame is 1/64th of a second.

doing a box selection of units that are out of your screen is also impossible.

it shoves the use of automation hacks, or in some cases zoom-out hacks, but there are some caveats mentioned in the blog, and probably even more not mentioned.

this is a small guide in checking replays for that.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
January 04 2013 21:11 GMT
#5
Ah lol I've played AnnaProsser. I caught them cheating as well
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 22:48:30
January 04 2013 22:35 GMT
#6
i cant see the frames in my sc2gears
edit> nvm
oo
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 04 2013 23:34 GMT
#7
On January 05 2013 06:04 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 05:54 docvoc wrote:
I'm confused, what does this show exactly and how are these impossible?


doing f.ex three seperate minimap clicks followed by a box selection of gateways within one frame is physically impossible.
on normal game speed 1 frame is 1/64th of a second.

doing a box selection of units that are out of your screen is also impossible.

it shoves the use of automation hacks, or in some cases zoom-out hacks, but there are some caveats mentioned in the blog, and probably even more not mentioned.

this is a small guide in checking replays for that.

OOOH I see what you mean, like the player was in 3 spots with the mouse at once and selected units that were in the fog of war. I get it. Ok I feel dumb now.
User was warned for too many mimes.
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