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On May 18 2012 08:32 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 07:36 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 07:32 AcesAnoka wrote:On May 18 2012 07:25 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? Guess you just can't get away from people who are negative by nature. Shame, shame. It's not negative. It's the truth. Stop being so naive If only we could always call definitions that we pull out of our ass "the truth." Not that I should even be giving your statement the time of day, since my point is that people shouldn't be coming into the thread just to make such statements in the first place. The posts that are questioning how this clan is going to able to support its members, sending them to events, ect are just as legitimate if not more so then the posts that are simply congratulating them. Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 08:25 Luepert wrote:
Team liquid was team liquid even when they were a clan. correct me if I'm wrong but Team liquid didn't actually have a team until sc2 and by that time they actually did have sponsor/s.
They called themselves Team Liquid back since 2002. My point is that people are bashing Root for claiming to be a team when they are a clan, but they are on the website of a now team, that called themselves a team before they were a team.
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lol @ oversensitive Destiny haters ITT. Destiny has always been the same and he won't change. He doesn't need to change either (and I hope he doesn't), stop being so dramatic. CatZ also finds nothing wrong with him, and he uses the same words Destiny does.
Can't wait to see some ol' ROOT shenanigans! They were always like a family together, you could tell they were all close buddies. This may be just what Destiny needs to reignite his passion with the game and it also made Kiwi come back!
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On May 18 2012 07:36 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 07:32 AcesAnoka wrote:On May 18 2012 07:25 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? Guess you just can't get away from people who are negative by nature. Shame, shame. It's not negative. It's the truth. Stop being so naive If only we could always call definitions that we pull out of our ass "the truth." Not that I should even be giving your statement the time of day, since my point is that people shouldn't be coming into the thread just to make such statements in the first place.
I think you're overreacting to this criticism. Most teams have sponsors and if they don't, they disband (like oGs), so it's not unfair to question the legitimacy of a team that has no sponsors.
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On May 18 2012 09:17 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 07:36 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 07:32 AcesAnoka wrote:On May 18 2012 07:25 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? Guess you just can't get away from people who are negative by nature. Shame, shame. It's not negative. It's the truth. Stop being so naive If only we could always call definitions that we pull out of our ass "the truth." Not that I should even be giving your statement the time of day, since my point is that people shouldn't be coming into the thread just to make such statements in the first place. I think you're overreacting to this criticism. Most teams have sponsors and if they don't, they disband (like oGs), so it's not unfair to question the legitimacy of a team that has no sponsors.
LMAO what on earth is motivating you to question whether ROOT is a team or a clan? Did ROOT do something offensive? Are you someone who is powerful and has been appointed the judge of teams and clans who make threads on TL? What the FUCK do you care if ROOT is a team or a clan? What consequence does the answer to that question have to you or the TL community?
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The thing i always liked about Root is you could tell all the members were good friends and enjoying themselves so good to see them reforming.
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On May 18 2012 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 09:17 Vul wrote:On May 18 2012 07:36 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 07:32 AcesAnoka wrote:On May 18 2012 07:25 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? Guess you just can't get away from people who are negative by nature. Shame, shame. It's not negative. It's the truth. Stop being so naive If only we could always call definitions that we pull out of our ass "the truth." Not that I should even be giving your statement the time of day, since my point is that people shouldn't be coming into the thread just to make such statements in the first place. I think you're overreacting to this criticism. Most teams have sponsors and if they don't, they disband (like oGs), so it's not unfair to question the legitimacy of a team that has no sponsors. LMAO what on earth is motivating you to question whether ROOT is a team or a clan? Did ROOT do something offensive? Are you someone who is powerful and has been appointed the judge of teams and clans who make threads on TL? What the FUCK do you care if ROOT is a team or a clan? What consequence does the answer to that question have to you or the TL community?
What? You're missing the point of my post. I'm not personally that concerned about whether ROOT is officially a team or a clan.
My point is that when a professional team lacks any sponsor, that's usually a sign that they're on the way out of the scene, not entering it. So people are going to question this obvious problem. You can be ROOT's guard dog in this thread all day long if you want to, but it would make a lot more sense to just wait for ROOT to explain how they're going to exist as a team with no sponsor or if they're actively finding sponsors, etc.
At least, that makes a lot more sense to me than being incredibly defensive in response to any post that mentions it.
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Been distracted by Diablo 3 for a few days but this is some awesome news to come back to. My favorite team is back. Sick.
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On May 18 2012 08:49 ROOTFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? thank you for redefining words you are one smart fellow
You are very welcome 
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On May 18 2012 10:29 hitpoint wrote:
Been distracted by Diablo 3 for a few days but this is some awesome news to come back to. My favorite team is back. Sick. pretty much exactly my situation to, go root!
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Root's twitter just had a tweet with a map of Rotterdam (the city). Could they have possibly recruited Rotterdam? He is playing in Anaheim...
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On May 18 2012 11:28 Swords wrote:
Root's twitter just had a tweet with a map of Rotterdam (the city). Could they have possibly recruited Rotterdam? He is playing in Anaheim...
That would be awesome! But he's European. It would ruin their "all NA" persona.
Edit: just thought of something super epic.
Ladies and gentlemen... I present... ROOTterdam.
CONFIRMED ON NASL.
"Huk vs ROOTvibe the newest acquisition to team root" -bitter
"but for how long though? *huge smile*" -Rotterdam
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Good luck to those guys. Can't say I am optimistic about their prospects, but hopefully I'll be wrong.
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On May 18 2012 09:51 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 09:17 Vul wrote:On May 18 2012 07:36 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 07:32 AcesAnoka wrote:On May 18 2012 07:25 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? Guess you just can't get away from people who are negative by nature. Shame, shame. It's not negative. It's the truth. Stop being so naive If only we could always call definitions that we pull out of our ass "the truth." Not that I should even be giving your statement the time of day, since my point is that people shouldn't be coming into the thread just to make such statements in the first place. I think you're overreacting to this criticism. Most teams have sponsors and if they don't, they disband (like oGs), so it's not unfair to question the legitimacy of a team that has no sponsors. LMAO what on earth is motivating you to question whether ROOT is a team or a clan? Did ROOT do something offensive? Are you someone who is powerful and has been appointed the judge of teams and clans who make threads on TL? What the FUCK do you care if ROOT is a team or a clan? What consequence does the answer to that question have to you or the TL community? What? You're missing the point of my post. I'm not personally that concerned about whether ROOT is officially a team or a clan. My point is that when a professional team lacks any sponsor, that's usually a sign that they're on the way out of the scene, not entering it. So people are going to question this obvious problem. You can be ROOT's guard dog in this thread all day long if you want to, but it would make a lot more sense to just wait for ROOT to explain how they're going to exist as a team with no sponsor or if they're actively finding sponsors, etc. At least, that makes a lot more sense to me than being incredibly defensive in response to any post that mentions it.
Okay, so you're not necessarily talking about team vs clan per se, but my general point remains the same. It's that we shouldn't be coming into this thread just to throw out whatever pessimistic thoughts jump into our heads. If I were to rephrase my previous post I would say "What consequence does the question of whether ROOT can sustain themselves have on you or the TL community?" What obligation does ROOT have to answer that question right off the bat? There is no need to put them on trial. Why not just commend their intent to try to succeed? You're just trying to cast a dark cloud over good news, and it happens too often on these forums.
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On May 18 2012 11:52 Malinor wrote:
Good luck to those guys. Can't say I am optimistic about their prospects, but hopefully I'll be wrong.
I wouldn't expect them to win any big team tournaments or have players placing that highly at individual tournaments, but they seem really built off of personality and bizarre play. I dunno what a good comparison is, maybe the Harlem Globetrotters of Starcraft 2? Or the And1 Mixtape?
Pretty much all of these players produce ridiculous games or are really amusing personalities or both.
That sort of thing may actually win them sponsors. They may not be amazing, but they'll attract a crowd. As long as that crowd isn't there because of controversial Destiny lingo (I read the note at the top, I'm not trying to start another Destiny thread here, just stating a fact) they may be able to pick up sponsors or find ways to make money.
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Yes, this is excellent.
I always loved ROOT's position as one of the few independent teams in the SC2 world. They have a talented and hilarious crew. Can't wait to see them start kicking some butt soon!
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On May 18 2012 09:51 Vul wrote:
My point is that when a professional team lacks any sponsor, that's usually a sign that they're on the way out of the scene, not entering it. So people are going to question this obvious problem. You can be ROOT's guard dog in this thread all day long if you want to, but it would make a lot more sense to just wait for ROOT to explain how they're going to exist as a team with no sponsor or if they're actively finding sponsors, etc.
At least, that makes a lot more sense to me than being incredibly defensive in response to any post that mentions it.
You're talking about something you're neither informed nor qualified to talk about, and you blindly question the reasoning of people who are inherently more informed and more knowledgeable about the scene in general and - most importantly - investing their own lives/careers into the very thing that you question the legitimacy/viability of.
Odds are, any problem you could possibly think of, they probably considered and found a solution to or at least weighed the pros and cons and decided the way they're doing it is the best way for them. Whether they choose to share this with the general public or not is up to them, and you're in no position to demand that they do.
Put simply, you have no ground to stand on in this kind of a discussion - which is why the only effect your few posts on the issue had is to irritate people who have to skim over them, rather than provide any worthwhile arguments. And given the tone of your posts ("guard dog" and all), I'm not at all convinced that wasn't your goal to begin with.
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On May 18 2012 09:51 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 09:17 Vul wrote:On May 18 2012 07:36 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 07:32 AcesAnoka wrote:On May 18 2012 07:25 Doodsmack wrote:On May 18 2012 06:37 creamyturtle wrote:On May 18 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:On May 17 2012 22:12 creamyturtle wrote:
Isn't an un-sponsored team basically just a clan? Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread, and to the positivity of the community. TL needs more posters like you, champ. Don't be an ass. The difference between a Team and a Clan is sponsorship, which ROOT does not have. Does the truth hurt? Guess you just can't get away from people who are negative by nature. Shame, shame. It's not negative. It's the truth. Stop being so naive If only we could always call definitions that we pull out of our ass "the truth." Not that I should even be giving your statement the time of day, since my point is that people shouldn't be coming into the thread just to make such statements in the first place. I think you're overreacting to this criticism. Most teams have sponsors and if they don't, they disband (like oGs), so it's not unfair to question the legitimacy of a team that has no sponsors. LMAO what on earth is motivating you to question whether ROOT is a team or a clan? Did ROOT do something offensive? Are you someone who is powerful and has been appointed the judge of teams and clans who make threads on TL? What the FUCK do you care if ROOT is a team or a clan? What consequence does the answer to that question have to you or the TL community? What? You're missing the point of my post. I'm not personally that concerned about whether ROOT is officially a team or a clan. My point is that when a professional team lacks any sponsor, that's usually a sign that they're on the way out of the scene, not entering it. So people are going to question this obvious problem. You can be ROOT's guard dog in this thread all day long if you want to, but it would make a lot more sense to just wait for ROOT to explain how they're going to exist as a team with no sponsor or if they're actively finding sponsors, etc. At least, that makes a lot more sense to me than being incredibly defensive in response to any post that mentions it.
we'll look for, and find sponsors, don't worry we'll do our best to reach whatever standards, you, Vul, set for us.
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On May 18 2012 11:37 Luepert wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 11:28 Swords wrote:
Root's twitter just had a tweet with a map of Rotterdam (the city). Could they have possibly recruited Rotterdam? He is playing in Anaheim... That would be awesome! But he's European. It would ruin their "all NA" persona. Edit: just thought of something super epic. Ladies and gentlemen... I present... ROOTterdam. CONFIRMED ON NASL. "Huk vs ROOTvibe the newest acquisition to team root" -bitter "but for how long though? *huge smile*" -Rotterdam
DO WANT. While it would mess up the whole "NA" vibe, I do think that Rotti would be a great fit personality-wise, with ROOT.
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This is awesome news
It was a sad day when ROOT folded 
Good to see them back
GL this time round!!
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Oh wow, didn't see this coming. Such good news, always loved ROOT! GL!!
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