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On May 14 2012 07:58 sc2holar wrote:
Also, when every protoss pro in the world was complaining about 1/1/1, the consensus on this forum was that toss was playing bad and had to figure out how to deal with it. now when Terrans complain about P, people declare it to be the absolute truth. Funny how Terran-dominated this forum is.
It's not. The unbiased Protoss players all agree that their race is currently overpowered.
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On May 14 2012 08:00 DemigodcelpH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 07:58 sc2holar wrote:
Also, when every protoss pro in the world was complaining about 1/1/1, the consensus on this forum was that toss was playing bad and had to figure out how to deal with it. now when Terrans complain about P, people declare it to be the absolute truth. Funny how Terran-dominated this forum is. It's not. The unbiased Protoss players all agree that their race is currently overpowered.
No, they agree that protoss is overpowered in lategame PvT. Please quote any pro level protoss saying Toss is OP in PvZ, or early-mid game PvT.
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While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow.
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On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow.
you mean cheese out the best pvt in the world? k
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On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow.
That same MVP said that Protoss was strong in late game, thta's why he "cheesed"...and PartinG played pretty bad in those games....and It's MVP...
Get your facts straight -_-
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On May 14 2012 05:24 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 18:22 Tyree wrote:
That Flash is the undisputed best BW player of all time, give me a break. iloveoov in his prime was a far more impressive player that i would argue faced far bigger competition than Flash did.
I am glad he is playing SC2, but the absolute cold water in your face when you realize he isent some god will be funny to witness This is just a one BIG lie. Also this thought was here many times already, but still - you guys did not understand, that he is not whining. I can bet my house he will NEVER EVER make a thread with some balance whining in it or something similar to this. Man asking questions, he answering honestly. What do you want to hear from him, his opinion or "something_with_what_i_agree" ?
Yeah that guy's an idiot.
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On May 12 2012 02:17 Clefairy wrote:
What play do you prefer in SC2?
I really like Marauders and Marines. I think their micro fits my style.
And a small piece of Artosis just died...
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On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow.
MVP also knows the early game timing attacks while Flash does not. MVP also knows all of the early game, late game builds of the protoss and had ample time to study partings style. Therefore, your argument isn't valid.
Even MVP has said that Protoss is strong in the late game lol.
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On May 14 2012 07:55 sc2holar wrote:
GSL WINS;
7 Terrans
5 Zergs
2 Protoss
ill just leave this here.
There are more Terran players than any other race therefore there's a higher chance of them winning the GSL.
Also, this last GSL had 3 protoss and 1 Terran in the top 4.
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Why do every threads on TL become balance whine threads nowadays?-_-
On May 14 2012 08:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow. That same MVP said that Protoss was strong in late game, thta's why he "cheesed"...and PartinG played pretty bad in those games....and It's MVP... Get your facts straight -_-
Mvp has full confidence in his late game vs protoss, even against parting...
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On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow.
MVP with messed up wrists beats Parting, best known PvT in the world, but TvP is unwinnable? seems legit.
There are problems with both sides of the match up.
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On May 14 2012 08:20 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow. you mean cheese out the best pvt in the world? k
He beat him in 2 legit games and got unlucky in the game he lost. The 1/1/1 was the only "cheese" game.
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On May 14 2012 08:34 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 07:55 sc2holar wrote:
GSL WINS;
7 Terrans
5 Zergs
2 Protoss
ill just leave this here. There are more Terran players than any other race therefore there's a higher chance of them winning the GSL. Also, this last GSL had 3 protoss and 1 Terran in the top 4.
I hope you see the irony in you quoting ONE round of 4 racial distribution compared to him giving results for all GSL finals.....
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Flash is amazing. Not only is he an S class player, he seems like a really cool guy. I wish him the best in the switch from BW to SC2!
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On May 12 2012 03:30 Malinor wrote:The transition period is just such a weird time. We'll probably see neither very good games of BW nor SC2 in SPL. And the OSL is tainted also. I would have preffered a clean cut, just move on to SC2 when it is inevitable anyway 
Agreed, but the transition period might be useful for engaging Korean BW fans.
On May 12 2012 03:56 mememolly wrote:
switch to sc2, with a webcam he could make $10k a night streaming
People thought Boxer's stream would be wildly popular 24/7 but IdrA and other mediocre foreigners still held more viewers, which is fascinating.
On May 12 2012 04:19 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Wasn't terran considered too weak to be competitive at one point during the beginning of BW?
When Boxer first started playing in tournaments, around 2000, Zerg was considered the strongest race, by far.
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Imo opinion it sounds like he doesn't like those mechanics (forcefields and warpgates), and again IMHO they are shitty mechanics that never should have made it in the game, everything that prevens your oponent from microing us utter shit, as is fungal growth, they should instead force your oponent to micro more..
regards
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On May 14 2012 08:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow. MVP also knows the early game timing attacks while Flash does not. MVP also knows all of the early game, late game builds of the protoss and had ample time to study partings style.
That IS my point, lol. PvT is balanced around Terran having the upper hand in the early and midgame while protoss becomes stronger the longer the game progresses. Blizzard has stated that this is their intentional, "assymetrical balance" design. i dont deny that protoss is stronger than terran in the lategame, but that doesnt mean that protoss is OP. It only gets to the lategame if the terran allows it.
If you let protoss get to the lategame, you will mostly lose and complain about balance. but if you play like MVP and abuse the early-game timings where protoss is weak, you can prevent that from happening and win a series against the best PvT player in the world.
Flash obviously doesnt have the same knowledge about the matchup as players like MVP and MKP so his balance statements should not be taken seriously.
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On May 14 2012 08:49 -TesteR- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 08:11 sc2holar wrote:
While MVP manhandles the best PvT player in the world, Flash who has played SC2 for about a month complains about Protoss being OP, and the entire TL community buys it. Wow. MVP with messed up wrists beats Parting, best known PvT in the world, but TvP is unwinnable? seems legit. There are problems with both sides of the match up.
Not being able to deal with 111's is embarrassing. Even demuslim said it himself.
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On May 14 2012 07:55 sc2holar wrote:
GSL WINS;
7 Terrans
5 Zergs
2 Protoss
ill just leave this here.
nono dude , everyone know that players who play terran are naturally better ^.^
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