EPTFlash.. it's so weird hearing him talk about SC2. I wish BW can stay around longer.
Interview with Flash about SC2 - Page 31
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
Flash.. it's so weird hearing him talk about SC2. I wish BW can stay around longer. | ||
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A-p-p-l-e-s
Canada314 Posts
took yellow almost a month!! | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:07 takingbackoj wrote: Artosis has admitted on SotG that some code S players have no understanding of the game at all. And also I don't see any quote mentioning he thought Flash knew more than any code S player. He said Flash "understands RTS games like no one else". There's one, and only one, game that Flash can claim to have the highest knowledge of, and it certainly isn't SC2. | ||
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Donnie_Par
Canada72 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:07 JimmiC wrote: Dream Hack won by Terran MLG spring arena won by Zerg Ironsquid won by Terran MLG winter 2012 won by Terran IPL 4 won by Terran IEM Season VI Protoss GSL season 1 Terran Assembly 2012 Terran IEM Sao Paulo Zerg IEM Kiev Terran Homestory IV Protoss AOL King Of Kongs Zerg Don't ACTUAL results matter? very true, but, for example, just because this code-s may be won by a terran, doesn't mean that there isn't something wrong that there were 3 protosses in the top 4. what race wins a tournament is generally unimportant, it should be looked at more how many of each race are in the top 8/top 4. *edit* i'm saying the winner of tournaments is generally unimportant, because someone can just be on a tear and win with whatever builds they're doing. an overall trend of terran winning might signal something, but still I think it's much more important which races are in the top 4, so it's taken into account the argument that "oh, the best players play terran so they always will win since they're just better" in my personal opinion, the game as a whole is very balanced, but it should be changed from the way it is, where protoss is almost impossible to beat in the late game tvp, to something where terran is slightly worse in their advantage phase, and protoss is worse in their advantage phase(late game) so it doesn't turn into the turtle fest that it often does for protosses... just my opinion | ||
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Dumbtruck
56 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:22 -Exalt- wrote: lol at the amount of bad terrans in this thread who think the statement "everything about protoss is OP, forcefields are OP" holds any actual meaning especially coming from someone with such little exerience in SC2. keep telling yourself that protoss is OP when in reality you're just getting outplayed. everytime toss got 1/1/1'd he just got outplayed brutally. typical toss........ | ||
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Fix637
United States256 Posts
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:29 An2quamaraN wrote: Eh...so he starts with admitting that he is a total noob and then proceeds to call Protoss OP. "Forcefields/Warpgates OP" while Protoss has only 2 GSL gold medals...and then calls terran the weakest while they won the most. Expected more from him... That is what I took out of the interview at first as well. Then I read it like 3 more times. I believe he actually means that he is losing to all-ins from Protoss and Zerg a lot right now. That is understandable since he does not know all the slight differences in all-ins and cannot react perfectly. Because he was not playing when the races got explored. He then says that Forcefields and Warpin are imbalanced, which I believe he sees as the main reason why he loses to Protoss right now. I think he just means exactly that. He loses because of this and has not yet adapted. I would give Flash the benefit of the doubt and assume that he just spoke a bit to harsh or that the translation is not 100% accurate. | ||
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tpmraven
United States833 Posts
At the end of the day, after reading this interview, as short as it is, i came to respect flash, and hope he does well in sc2. | ||
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KareKano
16 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:31 K3Nyy wrote: T_T;; Flash.. it's so weird hearing him talk about SC2. I wish BW can stay around longer. hey friend, i too mourn the fading of BW, played it for 5 years, i watched the epics of Savior vs Nal_rA in 2006, a big fan of the maestro of zerg here, but there is still something we can do, we can make our voice loud so that blizzard will listen to us and these 2 expansions that are soon to come for STAR2 will make it a worthy sucessor. :-) lets try to keep the optimism, thats how big things are done!! | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:23 Belha wrote: Classic: post with real arguments ignored by terrans. I've posted this in other thread infested by terran tears: Protoss struggling vs Z post 8 min eco/macro/production, this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320894 Terrans struggling vs late game protoss capabilities, this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334748 I'm pretty sure there is some personality stuff bounded with every race... Nice way to start a small war lol! Terrans are doing well yes. I don't deny that? But is it the small pool of players who are simply fantastic or is it the race? Do we have enough understanding to actually know which case it is? I don't know...I do know however that Flash makes very succinct and interesting observations about sc2. Is it true? Well time will tell...I certainly believe he deserves some respect and if ppl don't like pros voicing their opinions. Well then maybe consider that all pro gamers have opinions on balance and that it's impossible to avoid that. | ||
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noamuk
13 Posts
from his eyes the game is new and he says what he's first impressions are, thats the most honest opinion | ||
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Jimbo77
139 Posts
Since ghost snipe can't even kill a zling it's obvious that count of adequate people in that company hit zero. We have already been conducting little tournaments between small amount of people(10-15) in our city and it's amazing to see BC and Carriers battles in almost every matchup. It's amazing to see a mech play in TvP, as it was in BW. I think this is what Flash was talking about, concerning balance. Changing the race is the answer, yes. Welcome to the mirror-only GSL! | ||
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:35 SoniC_eu wrote: Nice way to start a small war lol! Terrans are doing well yes. I don't deny that? But is it the small pool of players who are simply fantastic or is it the race? Do we have enough understanding to actually know which case it is? I don't know...I do know however that Flash makes very succinct and interesting observations about sc2. Is it true? Well time will tell...I certainly believe he deserves some respect and if ppl don't like pros voicing their opinions. Well then maybe consider that all pro gamers have opinions on balance and that it's impossible to avoid that. Well that small pool is 20 people? Remember, not long ago, those GSLs that were like 117% Terran? | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:30 Macheji wrote: @Xpace... No, rank 11 master in K is not top 5 Gm rank in Europe. Nightend ( protoss ) the romanian protoss that is a top 50 GM got to Korea and got into GM in less then 2 weeks. Deathangel ( zerg ), another romanian, got into K Gm in almost the same ammount of time  . Also Deathangel had a forum blog post in wich he said that about 2 weeks after he got in the pro-house he was beating most of the K masters there.No. Some people don't realize that gm is fked up. Sice long time ago, every season some random people among the top XXX of every region goes to Gm. And besides those 200, there are always like 50 more people worth of GM (i remember a seen hero in k-master, squirtle in master, or minigun in na master, to name a few) But in Korea that's even worse. Cose instead of 50, there are like other 200 worth of Gm. | ||
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Ktk
Korea (South)753 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:30 Macheji wrote: @Xpace... No, rank 11 master in K is not top 5 Gm rank in Europe. Nightend ( protoss ) the romanian protoss that is a top 50 GM got to Korea and got into GM in less then 2 weeks. Deathangel ( zerg ), another romanian, got into K Gm in almost the same ammount of time . Also Deathangel had a forum blog post in wich he said that about 2 weeks after he got in the pro-house he was beating most of the K masters there.GM is a silly measurement since it's whether or not you're laddering at the time, not whether your MMR is good enough for most players. There are lots of people in the MMR range (hence why people get matched up with each other so often between masters and gm) and there are lots of people who could potentially be in GM but aren't because there is a person cap at 200 instead of an MMR cap of xxxx like there are with all the other leagues. --- Love this. I don't expect much from Flash in the first few seasons of Starcraft 1.5 Proleague but hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised. + Show Spoiler + Flash: "WG/FF OP" Counter: "Protoss aren't doing well enough at the highest levels" | ||
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KareKano
16 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:35 Jimbo77 wrote: Since blizard don't give a f**k about normal balance and listening to the community as well, but instead only does things none could explain what for (like observer btime decreasing), the only solution is to conduct big tournaments on custom maps. Since ghost snipe can't even kill a zling it's obvious that count of adequate people in that company hit zero. We have already been conducting little tournaments between small amount of people(10-15) in our city and it's amazing to see BC and Carriers battles in almost every matchup. It's amazing to see a mech play in TvP, as it was in BW. I think this is what Flash was talking about, concerning balance. Changing the race is the answer, yes. Welcome to the mirror-only GSL! calm down pal, it is true that strange things happened in star2 last seasons, zerg struggled from weak vP to a more balanced one, Terran went a bit down on the road but things wont be like this forever, Blizzard is a company and starcraft 2 is its product, we the consumers, that is the view of the thing. It is likely that as soon as numbers start to drop for terran, Blizz will act! | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On May 12 2012 07:32 WolfintheSheep wrote: He said Flash "understands RTS games like no one else". There's one, and only one, game that Flash can claim to have the highest knowledge of, and it certainly isn't SC2. RTS isn't a game, it's a genre. Your argument is like saying Alfred Hitchcok didn't have the best understanding of psychological thrillers during his time because he didn't direct them all. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
Pretty interesting interview too bad people will only focus on the balance crap. Dunno why KESPA decided to do this split format, every player seems to be against it | ||
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Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
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