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Interview with Flash about SC2 - Page 20

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DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
May 11 2012 20:35 GMT
#381
On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash.


The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse.


He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck".

Denial will only protect your ego for so long.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 11 2012 20:36 GMT
#382
On May 12 2012 05:34 morlakaix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:23 HolyArrow wrote:
There's one thing I have to say about people who are going, "Lol, Flash thinks Protoss is OP, it must be true".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias



Don't go on reddit.

for the love of god don't go on reddit



I go on reddit, but I always lurk and always read the comments first, and the top comment is usually "Actually guys, you're all full of shit because ______", so it's not too bad
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
May 11 2012 20:39 GMT
#383
On May 12 2012 05:35 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:
On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash.


The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse.


He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck".

Denial will only protect your ego for so long.


Denial?
I'm pretty sure Terran and Zerg are still winning pretty much any tournament out there.
Sure there is quite some Protoss players getting far, but they aren't actually winning anything.
How can you call something OP when they really just aren't winning anything?
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
May 11 2012 20:40 GMT
#384
Great interview! I'm so excited to see him and other BW players playing SC2. I think they'll be great.
I think its funny how quickly he made it to Masters so quick, but what do you expect? He's awesome
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
May 11 2012 20:40 GMT
#385
On May 12 2012 05:25 glaresc wrote:
yep , if Flash thinks that Protoss is op then who are we to argue
he's one of the best gamers in the world and best starcraft player of all time


As said by many others, Flash has played the game for a very short amount of time and was simply asked that based on his experience which race he thinks is the strongest at the moment and I don't think he ever intended that answer to be intended to be any kind of official statement regarding the balance of this game at all. He is smarter than that. So I would say please don't read too much into that.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 20:45:25
May 11 2012 20:41 GMT
#386
On May 12 2012 04:59 Thylacine wrote:
Flash said Protoss is overpowered and Terran is the weakest. Yeah. FLASH. Please dont telling us to get better and stop whining now, please.

This is exactly what you people shouldn't do. There's a reason pros have legitimacy to whine and you don't: because balance doesn't play a part at all when you lose to a diamond protoss on ladder.

Also, Flash has just started playing seriously, of course he's gonna find some stuff weird. I'm sure his mind blew when he saw that in SC2 dropships and medics are fused into one or that there is a defiler with mind control.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
May 11 2012 20:42 GMT
#387
I just wish protoss was not declared overpowered as soon as they are contending for their first GSL win in over a year T-T

PvT is finally playable, perhaps protoss favored in some areas, but definately terran favored in others. If it IS protoss favored, it is definately nothing in the shadow of what happened around mid to late last year with 1-1-1 etc, get over it, or as protoss was told 50'000 times in that era, adapt.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 11 2012 20:43 GMT
#388
On May 12 2012 04:05 DamnCats wrote:
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On May 12 2012 03:59 algue wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:17 Clefairy wrote:

What are some difficulties for you?
I think there's a problem with the balance. Protoss is overpowered so I hope they balance it out.

What exactly about Protoss is overpowered?
Everything. Forcefields are OP, gateways are OP too... More importantly there are continuous patches but it seems like Terran is the only one that doesn't get buffs. I'm worried because they're on a downward trend.

Source: GameChosun


God has spoken let the church say amen !!


AMEN BABY haha

AMEN and praise the Lord!
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 11 2012 20:44 GMT
#389
On May 12 2012 05:23 HolyArrow wrote:
There's one thing I have to say about people who are going, "Lol, Flash thinks Protoss is OP, it must be true".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
I have wikipedia too.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 11 2012 20:45 GMT
#390
On May 12 2012 05:39 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:35 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:
On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash.


The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse.


He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck".

Denial will only protect your ego for so long.


Denial?
I'm pretty sure Terran and Zerg are still winning pretty much any tournament out there.
Sure there is quite some Protoss players getting far, but they aren't actually winning anything.
How can you call something OP when they really just aren't winning anything?

What do u mean Protoss aren't winning any tournaments? Back your statement up
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 11 2012 20:45 GMT
#391
On May 12 2012 05:44 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:23 HolyArrow wrote:
There's one thing I have to say about people who are going, "Lol, Flash thinks Protoss is OP, it must be true".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
I have wikipedia too.

Hahaha! +1
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
May 11 2012 20:46 GMT
#392
On May 12 2012 05:23 HolyArrow wrote:
There's one thing I have to say about people who are going, "Lol, Flash thinks Protoss is OP, it must be true".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


Implying hes the only pro to say that protoss was a bit too strong. Demuslim talked about it on his stream for about 5-10 minutes or so and he had really good points with real evidence.
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
May 11 2012 20:47 GMT
#393
It's actually happening. I think it will be sad to see BW games suffer as a result of SC2.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 11 2012 20:47 GMT
#394
On May 12 2012 05:35 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:
On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash.


The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse.


He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck".

Denial will only protect your ego for so long.


/sigh

Ok, I'll bite.

If you want to use "qualifications" to justify a statement, then let me direct you to HerO, Squirtle, and Puzzle (Code S Semifinalist, Code S finalist, and 2-time Code S quarterfinalist). The former two said that in TvP, the better player wins (which implies good balance), and the latter said that "Protoss is definitely not OP".

I'm not even trying to use those statements to justify why Protoss isn't OP, because I acknowledge that pros will tend to side with the race that they play in regards to balance. The point is, you can't use statements by them to justify your balance arguments because many of them disagree with each other, and that's all I am seeking to prove in my argument, which I believe I have done sufficiently at this point.

Sources:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334560

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333603
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
May 11 2012 20:47 GMT
#395
"Are there any other difficulties?
It's difficult to defend Protoss all-ins. Zergs (all-ins) too."

I actually calmed down.

So he is new to the game and dies to all-ins.

I now think it is understandable to get a little frustrated and blame balance, afterall he has almost 0 experience and does not know the right reactions, therefore gets crushed hard every now and again.

Maybe that part of the interview was not full of shit but just proof that Flash is simply a mortal in SC II, what is to be expected.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 11 2012 20:48 GMT
#396
On May 12 2012 05:42 Cyro wrote:
I just wish protoss was not declared overpowered as soon as they are contending for their first GSL win in over a year T-T

PvT is finally playable, perhaps protoss favored in some areas, but definately terran favored in others. If it IS protoss favored, it is definately nothing in the shadow of what happened around mid to late last year with 1-1-1 etc, get over it, or as protoss was told 50'000 times in that era, adapt.

Yes, and at long last Toss have finally figured out the PvT matchup (with players like PArting, Squirtle, Genius etc. showing the way). Now the Terrans must answer. So let's give it like 3-4 months and see what happens.
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
Sc2ttyl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States245 Posts
May 11 2012 20:48 GMT
#397
The god has spoken. Protoss your OP. Please stop acting like your not now ok for the love of ____________. Javla Protoss since day 1.
yo
KangaRuthless
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States304 Posts
May 11 2012 20:49 GMT
#398
Oh man if Flash switched to Zerg...

Anyways, best of luck to you Flash!
www.youtube.com/KangaRuthless
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
May 11 2012 20:50 GMT
#399
Protoss OP says God.
Stim Go Go GO!
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
May 11 2012 20:50 GMT
#400
noooooOOOOoooooOOO.....

now every terran is going to use this as means to complain about protoss more.. dang it flash!

also, how long before we see this guy streaming on Teamliquid? cause currently nearly every top SC2 pros stream. he'd get a lot of viewers
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