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On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash. The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse.
He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck".
Denial will only protect your ego for so long. 
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On May 12 2012 05:34 morlakaix wrote:Don't go on reddit. for the love of god don't go on reddit
I go on reddit, but I always lurk and always read the comments first, and the top comment is usually "Actually guys, you're all full of shit because ______", so it's not too bad 
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On May 12 2012 05:35 DemigodcelpH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash. The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse. He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck". Denial will only protect your ego for so long.
Denial?
I'm pretty sure Terran and Zerg are still winning pretty much any tournament out there.
Sure there is quite some Protoss players getting far, but they aren't actually winning anything.
How can you call something OP when they really just aren't winning anything?
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Great interview! I'm so excited to see him and other BW players playing SC2. I think they'll be great.
I think its funny how quickly he made it to Masters so quick, but what do you expect? He's awesome
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On May 12 2012 05:25 glaresc wrote:
yep , if Flash thinks that Protoss is op then who are we to argue
he's one of the best gamers in the world and best starcraft player of all time
As said by many others, Flash has played the game for a very short amount of time and was simply asked that based on his experience which race he thinks is the strongest at the moment and I don't think he ever intended that answer to be intended to be any kind of official statement regarding the balance of this game at all. He is smarter than that. So I would say please don't read too much into that.
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On May 12 2012 04:59 Thylacine wrote:
Flash said Protoss is overpowered and Terran is the weakest. Yeah. FLASH. Please dont telling us to get better and stop whining now, please.
This is exactly what you people shouldn't do. There's a reason pros have legitimacy to whine and you don't: because balance doesn't play a part at all when you lose to a diamond protoss on ladder.
Also, Flash has just started playing seriously, of course he's gonna find some stuff weird. I'm sure his mind blew when he saw that in SC2 dropships and medics are fused into one or that there is a defiler with mind control.
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I just wish protoss was not declared overpowered as soon as they are contending for their first GSL win in over a year T-T
PvT is finally playable, perhaps protoss favored in some areas, but definately terran favored in others. If it IS protoss favored, it is definately nothing in the shadow of what happened around mid to late last year with 1-1-1 etc, get over it, or as protoss was told 50'000 times in that era, adapt.
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On May 12 2012 04:05 DamnCats wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 03:59 algue wrote:On May 12 2012 02:17 Clefairy wrote:What are some difficulties for you?I think there's a problem with the balance. Protoss is overpowered so I hope they balance it out. What exactly about Protoss is overpowered? Everything. Forcefields are OP, gateways are OP too... More importantly there are continuous patches but it seems like Terran is the only one that doesn't get buffs. I'm worried because they're on a downward trend. Source: GameChosun God has spoken let the church say amen !! AMEN BABY haha
AMEN and praise the Lord!
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On May 12 2012 05:39 Jakkerr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 05:35 DemigodcelpH wrote:On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash. The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse. He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck". Denial will only protect your ego for so long. Denial? I'm pretty sure Terran and Zerg are still winning pretty much any tournament out there. Sure there is quite some Protoss players getting far, but they aren't actually winning anything. How can you call something OP when they really just aren't winning anything?
What do u mean Protoss aren't winning any tournaments? Back your statement up
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Implying hes the only pro to say that protoss was a bit too strong. Demuslim talked about it on his stream for about 5-10 minutes or so and he had really good points with real evidence.
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It's actually happening. I think it will be sad to see BW games suffer as a result of SC2.
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On May 12 2012 05:35 DemigodcelpH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 05:30 Gaanzi wrote:On May 12 2012 05:28 DemigodcelpH wrote:
OP you are in no place to tell us to not take a bwonja's analysis on balance seriously. Please don't disrespect flash. The guy admitted himself that he's a total noob at the game, don't be crass. Also what's the point for bolding your text, emphasizing your rather dumb point just makes it look even worse. He's top KR masters. Statistically he's more than qualified to comment on anything he likes. Additionally everyone knows how humble he is. He goes on 15-0 streaks regularly and attributes it to "luck". Denial will only protect your ego for so long.
/sigh
Ok, I'll bite.
If you want to use "qualifications" to justify a statement, then let me direct you to HerO, Squirtle, and Puzzle (Code S Semifinalist, Code S finalist, and 2-time Code S quarterfinalist). The former two said that in TvP, the better player wins (which implies good balance), and the latter said that "Protoss is definitely not OP".
I'm not even trying to use those statements to justify why Protoss isn't OP, because I acknowledge that pros will tend to side with the race that they play in regards to balance. The point is, you can't use statements by them to justify your balance arguments because many of them disagree with each other, and that's all I am seeking to prove in my argument, which I believe I have done sufficiently at this point.
Sources:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334560
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333603
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"Are there any other difficulties?
It's difficult to defend Protoss all-ins. Zergs (all-ins) too."
I actually calmed down.
So he is new to the game and dies to all-ins.
I now think it is understandable to get a little frustrated and blame balance, afterall he has almost 0 experience and does not know the right reactions, therefore gets crushed hard every now and again.
Maybe that part of the interview was not full of shit but just proof that Flash is simply a mortal in SC II, what is to be expected.
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On May 12 2012 05:42 Cyro wrote:
I just wish protoss was not declared overpowered as soon as they are contending for their first GSL win in over a year T-T
PvT is finally playable, perhaps protoss favored in some areas, but definately terran favored in others. If it IS protoss favored, it is definately nothing in the shadow of what happened around mid to late last year with 1-1-1 etc, get over it, or as protoss was told 50'000 times in that era, adapt.
Yes, and at long last Toss have finally figured out the PvT matchup (with players like PArting, Squirtle, Genius etc. showing the way). Now the Terrans must answer. So let's give it like 3-4 months and see what happens.
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The god has spoken. Protoss your OP. Please stop acting like your not now ok for the love of ____________. Javla Protoss since day 1.
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Oh man if Flash switched to Zerg...
Anyways, best of luck to you Flash!
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noooooOOOOoooooOOO.....
now every terran is going to use this as means to complain about protoss more.. dang it flash!
also, how long before we see this guy streaming on Teamliquid? cause currently nearly every top SC2 pros stream. he'd get a lot of viewers
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EPT
