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Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
May 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#161
Has he seriously only been playing 3 weeks? Like totally, or just that account?
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
May 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#162
On May 12 2012 02:09 snailz wrote:
these days are so fun for me, because i get all these laughs thinking about that elephant in the room article when i see bw pros updates and how they struggle in sc2

"What does it say about the scene then, when a bottom-tier burnout from Brood War on a relaxed practice regimen still wins the GSL?"

"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch."

read it for the giggles guys ))) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221896

and i'm sorry, but that really wasn't impressive at all. flash is supposed to CRUSH faces, cause SC2 is so easy and all that jazz


I am confused.

Are you saying that Flash is bad because he doesn't look impressive in these games or that SC2 is bad because it is easier than BW.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12700 Posts
May 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#163
personally I wasn't so impressed but if that's what get people hyped, I sure hope he will prove them right when time comes :D
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Opeasy
Profile Joined August 2011
107 Posts
May 11 2012 17:22 GMT
#164
On May 12 2012 01:53 RedDragon571 wrote:
So as far as mechanics go, his raw speed in that video is nothing insane. But what is insane is his efficiency, good mechanics aren't just about pressing buttons as much as pressing the buttons at the right time. If you noticed the attack in that T v T he manages to come right back to the drop he loaded up at the end the second it finishes unloading the units. Every depot seemed to land at perfect timings and he was never "missing" anything more important than the immediate thing he was doing. Very cool! Amazing progress for a month. However I worry about what MVP said in his most recent interview. Perhaps playing both BW and sc2 are too hard on the players and coaches. : /


What interview? I must have missed that one--
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
May 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#165
can't wait for proleague to start!
DexLy
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden34 Posts
May 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#166
On May 12 2012 02:11 Radison wrote:
Was he dropping mules after he moved out of his base? Didn't see any...


of course you didn't.. he's fkin flash gordon
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#167
--- Nuked ---
Kdrxone
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
May 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#168
On May 12 2012 02:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:10 Kdrxone wrote:
To be honest, after I've just watched the videos, I can safely say that the community is strongly overreacting at this moment upon this matter. Sure his mechanics are good, but these aren't games vs Code S players.

One of them is a (former?) Grandmaster player, though, if Lastshadow is correct.



Possible.

On May 12 2012 02:13 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:10 Kdrxone wrote:
To be honest, after I've just watched the videos, I can safely say that the community is strongly overreacting at this moment upon this matter. Sure his mechanics are good, but these aren't games vs Code S players.



Do you really not understand how impressive his play is? He's leagues and bounds better than most people ever could be with less than 8 weeks of play time.




Will believe it when I see it, this isn't BW anymore and while mechanics do still play quite an important part, they're not the primary concern in most games.

I would really like to see full games versus top korean players tho, it's quite hard to judge from these 2 short ladder videos.
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:25:36
May 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#169
He's fast

edit: new macro standard: keep your money below 50 minerals and gas like flash does
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
May 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#170
On May 12 2012 02:23 zeru wrote:
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On May 12 2012 02:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:17 Dauntless wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:15 Theovide wrote:

On May 12 2012 01:41 MegaFonzie wrote:
Well since they're just going to show you a picture of his screen I guess they aren't trying too hard to hide his profile.

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3479253/lllllll

Rank 56 masters in korea/taiwan, pretty impressive :O.

Wth? He's played over 400 2v2's...

Probably just getting used to the different mechanics, but still..

Wouldn't it be ironic if Flash and Zergbong switched roles on SC2?

But I have faith in my God.

Sorry but zergbong is already zergbong in sc2 again. =(


This is unfortunately more true by the day :/
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
May 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#171
This kind of thread is bound to breed the worst kind of comments and BW-vs-Sc2 arguments.
I better don't look at it again
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
May 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#172
Very impressive... thought it was cool how he seemed to favor mass medivacs over additional tanks. I can't wait to see what he'll come up with for tournament games.

And don't put too much into the record of the account he was using guys, who the hell knows how many different people have been using that id.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7138 Posts
May 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#173
Flash don't need no tanks for TvT ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#174
You know it's actually pretty cool to see my hero play SC2.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
May 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#175
What these two videos are not supposed to show:
Flash being a SC2 bonjwa after a couple of months, tearing up the league and doing a new innovative strategy every game.

What these two videos are supposed to show:
Flash playing SC2, showing the level of play he is currently at.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
May 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#176
On May 12 2012 02:18 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:09 snailz wrote:
these days are so fun for me, because i get all these laughs thinking about that elephant in the room article when i see bw pros updates and how they struggle in sc2

"What does it say about the scene then, when a bottom-tier burnout from Brood War on a relaxed practice regimen still wins the GSL?"

"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch."

read it for the giggles guys ))) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221896

and i'm sorry, but that really wasn't impressive at all. flash is supposed to CRUSH faces, cause SC2 is so easy and all that jazz

For a guy that has to practice two games competetively, having to deal with adjusting to the different kinks of each game and who's also been playing the new game for less than two months... Yeah, I'd say that this is pretty impressive.

Get off your high horse.


what high horse?

i'm on a donkey, it's called sc2. didn't you get the memo? ;-)

not few months back: "old champion in bw that was retired for years switched and got to code S with 3 months of practice, LOL"
now: ">>>FLASH<<< needs more practice, give him a break"

it's so bloody funny )))))

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"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
May 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#177
On May 12 2012 02:00 lastshadow wrote:
Should edit the OP, NosSave is QuanticApocalypse the GM Korean Terran.


Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:59 FabledIntegral wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either.



Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain.

"super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically.

Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners)


Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?



Flash's apm in sc1 was 330-370.


so somebody could check out Apocalypse's match history to find Flash's ID... interesting
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
May 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#178
On May 12 2012 02:25 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:18 KvltMan wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:09 snailz wrote:
these days are so fun for me, because i get all these laughs thinking about that elephant in the room article when i see bw pros updates and how they struggle in sc2

"What does it say about the scene then, when a bottom-tier burnout from Brood War on a relaxed practice regimen still wins the GSL?"

"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch."

read it for the giggles guys ))) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221896

and i'm sorry, but that really wasn't impressive at all. flash is supposed to CRUSH faces, cause SC2 is so easy and all that jazz

For a guy that has to practice two games competetively, having to deal with adjusting to the different kinks of each game and who's also been playing the new game for less than two months... Yeah, I'd say that this is pretty impressive.

Get off your high horse.


what high horse?

i'm on a donkey, it's called sc2. didn't you get the memo? ;-)

not few months back: "old champion in bw that was retired for years switched and got to code S with 3 months of practice, LOL"
now: ">>>FLASH<<< needs more practice, give him a break"

it's so bloody funny )))))


you need to go away
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#179
he does well
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50696 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:27:54
May 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#180
On May 12 2012 02:24 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
This kind of thread is bound to breed the worst kind of comments and BW-vs-Sc2 arguments.
I better don't look at it again


huh, everyone knows that Flash needs to practice 2 games at the same time so they really can't expect him to crush face

although if someone is expecting as such I would advise him to reread my first sentence.


On May 12 2012 02:25 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:18 KvltMan wrote:
On May 12 2012 02:09 snailz wrote:
these days are so fun for me, because i get all these laughs thinking about that elephant in the room article when i see bw pros updates and how they struggle in sc2

"What does it say about the scene then, when a bottom-tier burnout from Brood War on a relaxed practice regimen still wins the GSL?"

"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch."

read it for the giggles guys ))) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221896

and i'm sorry, but that really wasn't impressive at all. flash is supposed to CRUSH faces, cause SC2 is so easy and all that jazz

For a guy that has to practice two games competetively, having to deal with adjusting to the different kinks of each game and who's also been playing the new game for less than two months... Yeah, I'd say that this is pretty impressive.

Get off your high horse.


what high horse?

i'm on a donkey, it's called sc2. didn't you get the memo? ;-)

not few months back: "old champion in bw that was retired for years switched and got to code S with 3 months of practice, LOL"
now: ">>>FLASH<<< needs more practice, give him a break"

it's so bloody funny )))))


especially this guy.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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