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On May 12 2012 01:45 Lunares wrote:
Not even using MBS and manually clicking each barracks...and still have that level of macro in SC2. impressive.
Haha, I saw that too.
Still had them all on one hotkey though
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As expected of flash, only a couple of months training and he's able to show this much. So impressed. The sounds of his swift keystrokes echo in my pleasure center.
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So this means there are now more FPVODs of FlaSh in SC2 than in Brood War right?
+ Show Spoiler +I'm just kidding, but seriously I know it's hard to find many FPVODs of his Brood War play
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On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.
Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy. watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture. I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW
This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see. 
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On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either. Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain. "super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically. Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners)
Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?
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On May 12 2012 01:58 Leetley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.
Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy. watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture. I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see.
His first SC2 tournament will probably be only against other BW players at MLG .
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Its probably inbetween his BW practice session thats why he use LMO i would guess in a long run he will change it, but who am i to say this, god can play sc2 with any mouse.
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It was hard to not watch his hands, control, macro, lack of MBS-use... but I found myself constantly looking at his minerals/gas all game. For a guy that just started playing SC2, his resource control is even better than most pros. His builds were so fluid and well timed, and the decision making in that TvT clip was awesome.
It definitely has begun.
edit; was also nice to see him using a separate hotkey for his tanks/army. Nice to see high level players actually use that ability
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On May 12 2012 01:59 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:58 Leetley wrote:On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.
Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy. watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture. I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see. His first SC2 tournament will probably be only against other BW players at MLG .
so, the hardest sc2 tourney to date then
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Should edit the OP, NosSave is QuanticApocalypse the GM Korean Terran.
On May 12 2012 01:59 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either. Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain. "super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically. Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners) Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?
Flash's apm in sc1 was 330-370.
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My dick
User was warned for this post
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On May 12 2012 01:59 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either. Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain. "super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically. Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners) Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?
you are correct. he actually had below average apm for a pro korean terran.
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On May 12 2012 01:59 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:58 Leetley wrote:On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.
Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy. watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture. I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see. His first SC2 tournament will probably be only against other BW players at MLG .
Yeah, I thought of that after making my post. Anyway it will be intresting to see the different 'generations' clash.
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What a great interesting find. I can't wait to see his full potential in SC2.
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I heard from a Korean friend that word is going around that Jaedong is already gm on the KR server D:
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What he was using MBS... all rax on 4. 5 were facts and 6 ports. 0 all CCs..
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On May 12 2012 02:03 QuanticTheognis wrote:
I heard from a Korean friend that word is going around that Jaedong is already gm on the KR server D:
Not true. The only Pro that is GM is Effort, well, in the 'S' class sc1 progamers.
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I wonder if Flash, JD, Bisu, etc. feel pressure switching to a new game. Will they feel like they're failing if they don't perform well immediately? Super glad to see it, and I hope they all live up to the perceived "hype." Especially if Bisu plays Protoss. <3
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