DreamHack presents the 2nd stop in DreamHack EIZO Open sponsored by EIZO, AMD Sapphire and Twitch.TV which will be the official StarCraft II tournament at DreamHack Summer 2012. Registration is now open and below you’ll find all information you need to participate in the tournament.
The DreamHack EIZO Open first stop in Stockholm was a huge success with Mousesports ThorZaIN and TSL Polt qualifying for the SEK 550 000 Grand Final at DreamHack Winter 2012. Now it’s time for the second stop at DreamHack Summer 2012 with another 2 slots to the Grand Final and additionally 200 000 SEK in prize money to the top-4.
Tournament spans over 3 days with same open tournament format At DreamHack Summer 2012 the tournament format will be very similar to the DreamHack EIZO Open Stockholm but played over 3 days. The maximum capacity is 128 players and all players, pro’s and amateurs start on equal terms.
The Tournament consists of 3 group stages with 4 player groups, where the best 2 players advance to the next stage. The playoffs is played Single Elimination BO3 from Round of 16 until the Semifinals. Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
On top of the 200 000 SEK up for grabs, Top-2 will get direct qualification to the Grand Final at DreamHack Winter 2012 and top-16 will be awarded qualification points. These are crucial points if you want to be part of the very exclusive 24-player Grand Final tournament at DreamHack Winter 2012 with 550 000 SEK in the prize pool.
All streams in Free HD DreamHack.TV through our streaming partner Twitch.TV will provide 2 official StarCraft II streams throughout the tournament where some of world’s best casters will shoutcast the most interesting matches. Additional community streams will be available. All streams are broadcasted in free HD. More information including casters and streaming schedule will be released soon.
Tournament information:
Format: 1on1 Sponsors: EIZO, AMD, Sapphire, Twitch.TV Prize Purse: 200 000 SEK Location: DreamHack Summer 2012, Hall C, Elmia, Jönköping, Sweden Date: June 16, 17, 18 No of players: 128 Signup: Open sign up Platform: PC, Latest available patch Tournament format: Group stage BO3 with 4 players in each group with 3 stages where the top-2 advance in each stage (128 players, 64 players, 32 players) and Playoffs Single elimination BO3 from RO16 with BO5 Grand Final. Schedule: 16th of June: Tournament start 11.00, Group stage #1 & #2 17th of June: Group stage #3 18th of June: Playoffs and Grand Final 23.15. Detailed schedule to be released later on.
Prize & point distribution: 1. SEK 100 000 + Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 2. SEK 50 000 + Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 3. SEK 25 000 + 20 qualification points 4. SEK 25 000 + 20 qualification points 5-8. 12 qualification points 9-16. 5 qualification points
Registration / First come, first served Just like all our previous tournaments, it’s a first come - first served scenario so all pro’s and amateurs out there need to be quick and sign-up for the tournament.
1.A) If you have ticket (Event pass or Seat ticket) you can proceed to step 2.
1.B) If you do not have a ticket then you need to proceed and buy a ticket (minimum requirement: Event pass) for 550 SEK at http://bokning.dreamhack.se. Choose English, register your personal account and follow the instructions on the web page. Pick ‘Event pass’ under the DreamHack Summer 2012 button. [/b]
2) Send e-mail to sc2 [@] dreamhack.se with following details: - Name - Nickname - Nationality - Clan/Organization - Battle.net ID + Char code (your prime region) - Email - Email address you used for your account when booking the ticket, if not the same as above - Phone no. - Skype ID
You are ONLY registered and settled for the tournament when you have received and reply from DreamHack.
Tournament related questions? E-mail: sc2 [at] dreamhack.se
Any other questions? Do not hesitate to contact DreamHack Esport Administration Email: esport [at] dreamhack.se Phone: +46 768 00 1336 (Office hours)
On May 08 2012 23:13 Xacez wrote: I am not a fan of 128-player tournaments with only top 4 getting prize money, besides that everything is looking great as always.
My thoughts too. Top 8 should be awarded prizes. And with three days to use (I realize the schedule might have been an issue at DH Stockholm) there really should be enough time to play Bo5 semis and maybe also Bo5 quarters. Bo3 semis feels rather meh.
On May 08 2012 23:51 pallad wrote: SEK 100 000 = 14 000 dollars , yes ? Why they just dont show prize's in $ or euro
1) Exchange rates. 100 000 SEK wont be worth the same when the tournament takes place. 2) Dreamhack is a swedish tournament that takes place in Sweden, ofcourse they will use their currency. 3) Because Swedish crowns is totally the pimpest currency in the world (not biased)
So most of the players are playing only for points which is rather unfortunate. I dont like it and i also think this hinders the player pool a lot. On the contrary the mangement of dreamhack is doing a great job and i have always enjoyed their events, so keep up the good work guys.
On May 10 2012 02:12 Kompicek wrote: So most of the players are playing only for points which is rather unfortunate. I dont like it and i also think this hinders the player pool a lot. On the contrary the mangement of dreamhack is doing a great job and i have always enjoyed their events, so keep up the good work guys.
Its a improvement. Last year those extra DH events paid only the winner.
DreamHack always does the best job hosting tournaments (at least from a spectators point of view).
Will be good!
GG GL HF LETS GO :D
----- Also, regarding showing the prize in SEK... Obviously since they give you SEK it should say SEK. If the dollar or euro becomes absolutely worthless tomorrow, 100 000 SEK is still 100 1000 SEK.
I guess we could ask DH to show the equivalent prize in bananas, or goldfishes, or chinese Yuan (since that involves the most pepole) but in my mind that makes no sense either !
On May 10 2012 02:47 Chloroplaste wrote: I still don't see an headline on the most epic tournament of the year : ironsquid...
But dreamhack will be great, I can't wait.
I'm sure ironsquid was great for french people watching it live, but for the majority of people watching the laggy restream it wasn't that good.
You should have join us watching the original stream not the ironsquid restream...
The original stream that was in 100% french? Not to mention anything happening on stage was spoken in french. The majority of people watching wouldn't understand a word of it. Ironsquid sadly only caters to a small french audience, if they want to keep doing what they do and grow that is going to have to change.
On May 10 2012 02:47 Chloroplaste wrote: I still don't see an headline on the most epic tournament of the year : ironsquid...
But dreamhack will be great, I can't wait.
I'm sure ironsquid was great for french people watching it live, but for the majority of people watching the laggy restream it wasn't that good.
You should have join us watching the original stream not the ironsquid restream...
The original stream that was in 100% french? Not to mention anything happening on stage was spoken in french. The majority of people watching wouldn't understand a word of it. Ironsquid sadly only caters to a small french audience, if they want to keep doing what they do and grow that is going to have to change.
NO! TB and Apollo casted and streamed their own. Then Iron Squid restreamed it with their name and they put banners etc.
Name of this original stream was something called ironsquidsecret2. There was only 400-500 viewer, 1080p, so it didn't lag at all. + you saw what TB was doing and game lobby chat
I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
It´s actually one of the refreshing things about these DH tournaments. There´s no behind the scenes negotiations, no demands and no seeds. It is just straight up "we have some prize money, if you want any of it you will have to play your way through 124 other participants". It is also nice because they aren´t trying to plan anything, the brackets will be what they are. I think it is a big reason they always manage to deliver so emotional finals, because of the pure competitive spirit and the feeling of accomplishment when you know you have fought through the whole field to be in the finals. Like a big build-up.
Do keep in mind too, that this is in all essence a qualifier for DH winter.
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
That's not because they refused to pay stipends, it's because they realize that they need to foster to local scene to make sc2 sustainable or else SC2 will just be the same thing CS 1.6. was in Sweden (Huge following but still died out).
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
Go watch GSL then, having an open tournament gives up and comers a chance to prove themselves. Also the grand finals will most likely be stacked, this is just a qualifier with prizes basically.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
Go watch GSL then, having an open tournament gives up and comers a chance to prove themselves. Also the grand finals will most likely be stacked, this is just a qualifier with prizes basically.
GSL is also an open tournament tho but just like Dreamhack it's really only the playoffs that are interesting.
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
The definition of "unique viewer" is the amount of unique IP-addresses connecting to the stream. Think of it this way, if I have a dynamic IP-address and connect multiple times, I will count as a new unique viewer if my IP has changed. But this also applies in reverse to everyone connecting from the same network/NAT. If me and my brother connect to the stream from the same network, we will only count as 1 unique viewer.
There is no real way to distinguish the real numbers without forcing everyone to use a private account to watch the stream. As you said the real numbers are probably lower, but it's impossible to get exact figures, counting the unique viewers is the best way to get a decent estimate.
Also I think you underestimate how many people that actually don't play the game, but watch streams. I own SC2, but I don't play at all, although I enjoy watching pro's play in various tournaments. Just like I watch any other sport/activity without practicing it myself.
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
The definition of "unique viewer" is the amount of unique IP-addresses connecting to the stream. Think of it this way, if I have a dynamic IP-address and connect multiple times, I will count as a new unique viewer if my IP has changed. But this also applies in reverse to everyone connecting from the same network/NAT. If me and my brother connect to the stream from the same network, we will only count as 1 unique viewer.
There is no real way to distinguish the real numbers without forcing everyone to use a private account to watch the stream. As you said the real numbers are probably lower, but it's impossible to get exact figures, counting the unique viewers is the best way to get a decent estimate.
Also I think you underestimate how many people that actually don't play the game, but watch streams. I own SC2, but I don't play at all, although I enjoy watching pro's play in various tournaments. Just like I watch any other sport/activity without practicing it myself.
Hi.
This is exactly what I've bee ntalking about all the time. Most internet users have dynamic IP-adresses and so on. I also own SC2, and I dont either and I watch all major tournaments.
All these things don't mean anything. You do not have to calculate or w/e, just use common sense. The actual number isn't anywhere near 1 million and they expect DH summer to get "millions of viewers",
But w/e, I don't wanna beat on a dead horse anymore.
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
The definition of "unique viewer" is the amount of unique IP-addresses connecting to the stream. Think of it this way, if I have a dynamic IP-address and connect multiple times, I will count as a new unique viewer if my IP has changed. But this also applies in reverse to everyone connecting from the same network/NAT. If me and my brother connect to the stream from the same network, we will only count as 1 unique viewer.
There is no real way to distinguish the real numbers without forcing everyone to use a private account to watch the stream. As you said the real numbers are probably lower, but it's impossible to get exact figures, counting the unique viewers is the best way to get a decent estimate.
Also I think you underestimate how many people that actually don't play the game, but watch streams. I own SC2, but I don't play at all, although I enjoy watching pro's play in various tournaments. Just like I watch any other sport/activity without practicing it myself.
Hi.
This is exactly what I've bee ntalking about all the time. Most internet users have dynamic IP-adresses and so on. I also own SC2, and I dont either and I watch all major tournaments.
All these things don't mean anything. You do not have to calculate or w/e, just use common sense. The actual number isn't anywhere near 1 million and they expect DH summer to get "millions of viewers",
But w/e, I don't wanna beat on a dead horse anymore.
I just backed your post with more facts, I do agree with you.
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
Are you suggesting Dreamhack blatantly lied about their viewer numbers? IPL and MLG have both reported similar numbers and considering Dreamhack got quite a bit of mainstream media attention here in Sweden I definitely think it's not only possible but even probable. Since they got ~30-40k average concurrent viewers and maybe 80% of those were dedicated fans, think about all the people who just tuned in for 20 minutes and then tuned out during the ~20 hours of broadcasting time throughout the weekend. Things add up
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
The definition of "unique viewer" is the amount of unique IP-addresses connecting to the stream. Think of it this way, if I have a dynamic IP-address and connect multiple times, I will count as a new unique viewer if my IP has changed. But this also applies in reverse to everyone connecting from the same network/NAT. If me and my brother connect to the stream from the same network, we will only count as 1 unique viewer.
There is no real way to distinguish the real numbers without forcing everyone to use a private account to watch the stream. As you said the real numbers are probably lower, but it's impossible to get exact figures, counting the unique viewers is the best way to get a decent estimate.
Also I think you underestimate how many people that actually don't play the game, but watch streams. I own SC2, but I don't play at all, although I enjoy watching pro's play in various tournaments. Just like I watch any other sport/activity without practicing it myself.
Hi.
This is exactly what I've bee ntalking about all the time. Most internet users have dynamic IP-adresses and so on. I also own SC2, and I dont either and I watch all major tournaments.
All these things don't mean anything. You do not have to calculate or w/e, just use common sense. The actual number isn't anywhere near 1 million and they expect DH summer to get "millions of viewers",
But w/e, I don't wanna beat on a dead horse anymore.
Some facts need to be straighten up here:
1. Unique viewers is a metric that is used for online streaming. This metric is very much like "Unique visitors" for web analytics. This is not a perfect measurement because it's actually impossible to measure the exact amount of people visiting a site. Although this is the closest and best measurement in this industry and is thus a metric in the industry that different tools use (SiteCatalyst, Google Analytics etc.)
When DreamHack reports the way they do they are not trying to hide facts or doing something wrong, they just provide with the stats they get from their provider (TwitchTV) and it's a industry metric.
2. It's actually possible that Millions will watch DreamHack Summer DreamHack Summer 2011 had over 3M Unique Viewers (Yes, the metric) with all of their streams combined.
With all the games including popular ones like the growing Dota2, StarCraft2 as well as League of Legends + broadcasting on Swedish Television (Not only web stream, ordinary TV broadcast as well) it's possible that they will get millions of people watching. A prime-time show broadcasted on SVT1 in Sweden will easily get 300 000 viewers. So even consider that there are problems with the measurement "Unique viewer" it's still possible that Millions of people will watch DreamHack Summer.
... And they'll definitely get Millions of "Unique Viewers" (The metric).
You are SERIOUSLY underestimating the amount of people who just watch tournaments, but rarely/never play SC2. I haven't played a single game of SC2 in the last 16 months or so, but I have watched every bigger tournament to date. And I know atleast 25-30 people who do the same. A million viewers is nothing.
On May 21 2012 03:44 DrBeansy wrote: anyone know why the final is on a monday? im going to have to miss alot of the finals
I dont know, maybe a Swedish holiday or celebration day or what ever? I was wondering this myself why they are starting on a Saturday and not on Friday, which would make more sense to me cause the finals on Monday..... That will cost some viewers.
On May 21 2012 03:44 DrBeansy wrote: anyone know why the final is on a monday? im going to have to miss alot of the finals
I dont know, maybe a Swedish holiday or celebration day or what ever? I was wondering this myself why they are starting on a Saturday and not on Friday, which would make more sense to me cause the finals on Monday..... That will cost some viewers.
"In modern Sweden, Midsummer's Eve and Midsummer's Day (Midsommarafton and Midsommardagen) were formerly celebrated on 23 June and 24 June, but since 1953 the celebration has been moved to the Friday and Saturday between 19 June and 26 June. It is one of the most important holidays of the year in Sweden, and probably the most uniquely Swedish in the way it is celebrated. The main celebrations take place on the Friday, and the traditional events include raising and dancing around a huge maypole."
- Wikipedia
I don't usually partake in this activity personally though ^^
On May 21 2012 03:44 DrBeansy wrote: anyone know why the final is on a monday? im going to have to miss alot of the finals
I dont know, maybe a Swedish holiday or celebration day or what ever? I was wondering this myself why they are starting on a Saturday and not on Friday, which would make more sense to me cause the finals on Monday..... That will cost some viewers.
"In modern Sweden, Midsummer's Eve and Midsummer's Day (Midsommarafton and Midsommardagen) were formerly celebrated on 23 June and 24 June, but since 1953 the celebration has been moved to the Friday and Saturday between 19 June and 26 June. It is one of the most important holidays of the year in Sweden, and probably the most uniquely Swedish in the way it is celebrated. The main celebrations take place on the Friday, and the traditional events include raising and dancing around a huge maypole."
- Wikipedia
I don't usually partake in this activity personally though ^^
Well, Midsummer is on June 22-23 this year, which means the weekend AFTER Dreamhack, so that cannot be the reason for having the tournament like this. Maybe they want to spread out the different tournaments? I don't know when the other finals are though, only care about SC2.
On June 15 2012 19:06 Morfildur wrote: Who are the casters? It says "some of the worlds best casters", but thats all i could find. Does anyone know more?
Khaldor, Apollo, Incontrol and djWHEAT.
although Wheat had some flight troubles and may be a day late.
On June 15 2012 19:06 Morfildur wrote: Who are the casters? It says "some of the worlds best casters", but thats all i could find. Does anyone know more?
On June 15 2012 21:57 CCa1ss1e wrote: Sounds exciting, of course.
Sorry if this has been asked, but, I see that Day 1 starts @ 08:45AM EDT.. will the streams be rebroadcasted at the end of each day? Would be awesome.
Well everything will be streamed on twitch as far as i know with record mode enabled. Last DH the vods of the entire day were up on twitch like 5mins after the day ended, im guessing this also will be the case this weekend. (at least i hope so)
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
yeah, I'd be surprised if even 100,000 truly unique viewers tuned into to watch sc2, the stream rarely gets over 50k, 1 million is totally misleading and probably only used to draw advertisers etc
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
yeah, I'd be surprised if even 100,000 truly unique viewers tuned into to watch sc2, the stream rarely gets over 50k, 1 million is totally misleading and probably only used to draw advertisers etc
Don't confuse unique viewers with concurrent viewers. 50k concurrent usually means about 4-5 times as many unique viewers and sometimes even a lot more if the tournament goes on for a long time (i.e. 12+ hours like the last dreamhacks) since it's moving through different timezones and people have to stop watching or can't start watching right from the start.
Grand Final is played BO5 in DreamArena Extreme in front of the huge on-site audience and millions of viewers around the globe.
Really.. Millions? Kind of a big leap from the ~60K they had last event
Always enjoy DH thogh, on-site or stream!
EIZO Stockholm had over million unique viewer.
Stats from Twitch.TV Total Video Views 2,678,996 Unique Video Views 1,076,914 Average viewing time: 47 minutes per unique viewer
No, it had over one million unique VIEWS, not one million viewers.
Do you honestly think that there were over 1.000.000 different people tuning in to EIZO stockholm and that "millions of viewers around the globe." will tune in to watch DH Summer? I think not.
You realize the site you quoted says "In total over 1 million unique viewers tuned in to watch the show" and is titled "One million viewers", right? ^^,
My personal homepage has 1.000.000.000 uniwue viewers!
In grown-up life, things doesn't come true just becaus someone said so.
Please use reason, do you really think 1.000.000 [ONE MILLION] unique people tuned in to watch DH Stockholm? really? It really irks me when people put "statistiks" over reason. It is simply not true, can't you make that out yourself? How many active starcraft 2 players are there worldwide? maybe 2 million? (I think that is an exaggeration but lets say it is 2 mil) do you mean that half of them tuned in to watch DH STHLM? Even if people who dont play tuned in it wouldn't mkae much of a difference.
Even if i missquoted or their article said something else it doesnät change the fact that there is no chanse that DH sthlm had 1 million unique viewers.
Do you think it did? really?
According to MLG they had 4.7 million unique viewers and a peak of 437,000 concurrent viewers. This is of course including LoL. But DH also counts LoL viewers.
When it comes to dynamic IP it really is not relevant since it only changes when you restart the router/modem for most people. 1 million unique viewers does not sound impossible, especially not when you count LoL. A lot of viewers don't even own starcraft.
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
I don't mind the fact that they dont pay stipends because its their decision really but I think it does definitely hurt the tournament. I enjoy watching underdogs and up and comers but I would say I have only heard of 25% of the players in the tourney and like you said its pretty much 1 known player per group. The underdogs got to have someone to beat.
It's only my opinion but I feel like this is just easy money for about 5 of the players that are really good and the first day will be spent watching EU playhem with special guests instead of a top tournament.
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
I don't mind the fact that they dont pay stipends because its their decision really but I think it does definitely hurt the tournament. I enjoy watching underdogs and up and comers but I would say I have only heard of 25% of the players in the tourney and like you said its pretty much 1 known player per group. The underdogs got to have someone to beat.
It's only my opinion but I feel like this is just easy money for about 5 of the players that are really good and the first day will be spent watching EU playhem with special guests instead of a top tournament. I mean the group of death is Stephano, MVPtails, jonnyrecco, and Mojagy.
It's often two known players per group, and it's not MVPTails, it's a Swede nicknamed Tails. The other known player in the group is Jonnyrecco.
On May 11 2012 20:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I really dislike the format Dreamhack is using. Day 1 is nothing but pro's versus randoms and because they refuse to pay stipends we will have another underwhelming player pool.
I don't mind the fact that they dont pay stipends because its their decision really but I think it does definitely hurt the tournament. I enjoy watching underdogs and up and comers but I would say I have only heard of 25% of the players in the tourney and like you said its pretty much 1 known player per group. The underdogs got to have someone to beat.
It's only my opinion but I feel like this is just easy money for about 5 of the players that are really good and the first day will be spent watching EU playhem with special guests instead of a top tournament. I mean the group of death is Stephano, MVPtails, jonnyrecco, and Mojagy.
It's almost always two known players per group, and it's not MVPTails, it's a Swede nicknamed Tails. The other known player in the group is Jonnyrecco.
Ya I edited it out once I realized it was a Swedish flag. And I watch a lot of SC2 (admittedly less in tune with the European scene) but its hard for me to recall more then 1 player from most groups. But again this is a European tournament so I guess it makes sense that most of the players are European. For me its just not as exciting as seeing some top tier Koreans fighting it out because these just arent top tier players. I guess a Ret vs Nani match would be cool. Or of course T zain winning would be nice to see.
On June 16 2012 22:17 mage3 wrote: Come on people, we need to hype that up! One of the best European tournaments for a while. We need to do better than 600 viewers!
The main streams didn't even start yet from what i can see, so give it a little time :p
The main streams need to be listed on TL. Do you guys know whats the name of the other commentator on the IMBA.tv stream? The one with the slight accent
EDIT: I asked the chat. The caster is Addicted, turns out to be from Bulgaria. I knew it, the accent sounded familiar.
On June 17 2012 05:44 sVnteen wrote: maaaaan.... what does qxz beating mana with 2 1 base allins tell us about sc2? the better player doen't always win
theres a UK player i've never heard of who took the first qualifiers 3 - 0 only dropping like one game and that was agaisnt stephano. I thought JonnyRecco was attending too from UK?
floating bases is just BM so whats the answer, spend 2 supp on a flying unit and hide it in corner?.
In the lower leagues, this happens just too much. Most of the time however there is always a drone left. the point im trying to make is buildings should lose energy after being floated for more than 120 secs to stop this shit OR ovies/prisms count as structures??
On June 17 2012 18:39 StatixEx wrote: floating bases is just BM so whats the answer, spend 2 supp on a flying unit and hide it in corner?.
In the lower leagues, this happens just too much. Most of the time however there is always a drone left. the point im trying to make is buildings should lose energy after being floated for more than 120 secs to stop this shit OR ovies/prisms count as structures??
Why? So all 3 races can BM? Neither play won or lost.
so you read one point and respond, no other race can float buildings. Its just BM to force a draw like that. if both players cannot produce another unit and one player DOESNT have a force then the win should go to any player with an attacking force. Dragon had a banshee, cyto had queens and infestors. It was only because of the BMing corner blocks which forced the draw. I just dont like it cos T are the only person who can do it
ok then give everyone a similar ability zerg burrow all buildings, toss cloak (still they cant fly to corners but it will waste a hell of a lot of time if you have 10 sup of units and no detection . . . but again T win with scans! . . doh
I just think its daft, if you dont agree then fair enough. HOTS seems to be favouring the shorter games with more shit going on at the moment
On June 17 2012 18:53 StatixEx wrote: so you read one point and respond, no other race can float buildings. Its just BM to force a draw like that. if both players cannot produce another unit and one player DOESNT have a force then the win should go to any player with an attacking force. Dragon had a banshee, cyto had queens and infestors. It was only because of the BMing corner blocks which forced the draw. I just dont like it cos T are the only person who can do it
ok then give everyone a similar ability zerg burrow all buildings, toss cloak (still they cant fly to corners but it will waste a hell of a lot of time if you have 10 sup of units and no detection . . . but again T win with scans! . . doh
I just think its daft, if you dont agree then fair enough. HOTS seems to be favouring the shorter games with more shit going on at the moment
This discussion was head a million times and the conclusion always was: Yup, Terrans can do something the other races can do which is the nature of Starcraft; You just have to take that into account before you go into basetrades.
Kinda disapointed by this dreamhack. 1rst the DieStar, Frayer and sLviko, were the 2 rokkis player play they game last. 2nd the 3rd Group seed given befor the cytoplasm game where finished.
On June 18 2012 03:26 lecongolais77 wrote: Kinda disapointed by this dreamhack. 1rst the DieStar, Frayer and sLviko, were the 2 rokkis player play they game last. 2nd the 3rd Group seed given befor the cytoplasm game where finished.
Yup mate, they were suppose to play first game but refused wtf and then they set 2:1 and fucked diestar over, what a joke
yeah, I'd be surprised if even 100,000 truly unique viewers tuned into to watch sc2, the stream rarely gets over 50k, 1 million is totally misleading and probably only used to draw advertisers etc
So close to 100,000 viewers. Really awesome job from DreamHack
yeah, I'd be surprised if even 100,000 truly unique viewers tuned into to watch sc2, the stream rarely gets over 50k, 1 million is totally misleading and probably only used to draw advertisers etc
So close to 100,000 viewers. Really awesome job from DreamHack
EPT
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